That's an understatement. Any intelligent individual can't say 54,000 is anything less than ludicrous.
If they had actually charged $54, this whole thing would have disappeared under the mat long ago minus the ridiculously overblown international drama. But $54 isn't enough to make an example out of anybody, to cut off their head and stick it on a pike for all the plebs to see, so to speak
If the fine was an actual reasonable number, that the majority of people would have at their disposal, then they would have much less of an excuse to fight it. International piracy would evaporate overnight, because no single person could fight against a legitimate fine scaled fairly to affect them at their level of income.
However at the moment, the people leading the fight are still stuck simple mindedly on their own imagined scale of self worth, where they picture any of the individuals who actually pay for their work would actually value it at 54,000.(let alone anything in the millions). Wow, you did a art! here let me reward you with a luxury yacht which took 1000 times the man hours and effort to construct!
These parasites have been living so securely in the luxury and security provided by the invisible, unmetered support of the masses that we have created a whole new subspecies that is unable to imagine the scale of life in a day to day mundane existence, and half of them are talentless pigs not even worthy of the attention people give them. This is what we get for crossing fame with the dream of being rich...
It sounds like you're missing a bit of perspective. Everyone in the world has seen Hello magazine or something along those lines and comes to the conclusion that the people these laws are meant to protect are already obscenely overprivelidged. Until celebrity status gets a good kick in the teeth and gets put in its place, no one is going to have an ounce of sympathy. It's got nothing to do with evil pirates against poor innocent rights holders. It's just that everyone outside of the deep underground forced labour entertainment mines thinks the industry is taking the piss. You just can't have mutual respect without... mutual respect:)
A normal society would completely reject the idea that it has to be continuously monitored for its own safety. If anything, this doublethink only weakens the UK. This is exactly the same thing that we openly criticise in other countries, only carefully differentiated so that the blanket definition doesn't stick. It's like saying 'our secret police are less secret and oppressive than everyone else's, so it doesn't count'. So is it right or isn't it? In this weakened state of mind where we don't know ourselves, the hypocrisy of it is totally open to attack...
I can't believe anyone could be sick enough to come up with this. As if scammers arent bad enough on their own, now we have homicidal scammers. I hope these sick bastards enjoy their blood money.
I would love to see a system where the 'distribution' of movies, games, music etc is completely detached from the actual funding of it. Right now, the cycle depends on people paying for the stuff by proxy via physical distribution. This is the reason they industry is squirming and whining hysterically, because they dont credit the viewers with enough intelligence to be able to work with them in other ways.
What really needs to happen is people funding the development of art directly, by their own personal choice. Then piracy becomes a non issue, because the artists still get their money. We would hopefully also by definition have a lot more choice on the trash they make. For example petitions to ressurect shows that have been axed (eg firefly, futurama) would have actually had more meaning, because the petitioners could have put their money where their mouth is.
conjecture: There really isn't much point in bolting down the installation process at such an early stage, so that is why it is such a mess.
Most open source apps are a pleasure to install compared to the google soup you get if you are looking for windows apps. There isn't anything that even comes close to package repositories. Which makes your statement rather ironic.
It would be extremely ironic to your point if one day god comes down for a visit and says 'Yeah, science, I did that. Sorry to burst your bubble. Can I have my baskets back now?'
Not that I want to make a case for that. Science can be attributed to allowing us as humans to understand the nature of the universe. But the understanding of it has never allowed us to claim 'we did that' - it just allows us to better take advantage of the already existing principles behind anything. If there was a god, why would there be something in his universe that completely undermines his existence?
So basically, you can't prove the existence of god, but you can't disprove it either:). All you really have is a stalemate. The question is how much do you want to argue with dangerous religious nuts?
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That's an understatement. Any intelligent individual can't say 54,000 is anything less than ludicrous.
If they had actually charged $54, this whole thing would have disappeared under the mat long ago minus the ridiculously overblown international drama. But $54 isn't enough to make an example out of anybody, to cut off their head and stick it on a pike for all the plebs to see, so to speak
If the fine was an actual reasonable number, that the majority of people would have at their disposal, then they would have much less of an excuse to fight it. International piracy would evaporate overnight, because no single person could fight against a legitimate fine scaled fairly to affect them at their level of income.
However at the moment, the people leading the fight are still stuck simple mindedly on their own imagined scale of self worth, where they picture any of the individuals who actually pay for their work would actually value it at 54,000.(let alone anything in the millions). Wow, you did a art! here let me reward you with a luxury yacht which took 1000 times the man hours and effort to construct!
These parasites have been living so securely in the luxury and security provided by the invisible, unmetered support of the masses that we have created a whole new subspecies that is unable to imagine the scale of life in a day to day mundane existence, and half of them are talentless pigs not even worthy of the attention people give them. This is what we get for crossing fame with the dream of being rich...
It sounds like you're missing a bit of perspective. Everyone in the world has seen Hello magazine or something along those lines and comes to the conclusion that the people these laws are meant to protect are already obscenely overprivelidged. Until celebrity status gets a good kick in the teeth and gets put in its place, no one is going to have an ounce of sympathy. It's got nothing to do with evil pirates against poor innocent rights holders. It's just that everyone outside of the deep underground forced labour entertainment mines thinks the industry is taking the piss. You just can't have mutual respect without ... mutual respect :)
A normal society would completely reject the idea that it has to be continuously monitored for its own safety. If anything, this doublethink only weakens the UK. This is exactly the same thing that we openly criticise in other countries, only carefully differentiated so that the blanket definition doesn't stick. It's like saying 'our secret police are less secret and oppressive than everyone else's, so it doesn't count'. So is it right or isn't it? In this weakened state of mind where we don't know ourselves, the hypocrisy of it is totally open to attack...
I can't believe anyone could be sick enough to come up with this. As if scammers arent bad enough on their own, now we have homicidal scammers. I hope these sick bastards enjoy their blood money.
I would love to see a system where the 'distribution' of movies, games, music etc is completely detached from the actual funding of it. Right now, the cycle depends on people paying for the stuff by proxy via physical distribution. This is the reason they industry is squirming and whining hysterically, because they dont credit the viewers with enough intelligence to be able to work with them in other ways. What really needs to happen is people funding the development of art directly, by their own personal choice. Then piracy becomes a non issue, because the artists still get their money. We would hopefully also by definition have a lot more choice on the trash they make. For example petitions to ressurect shows that have been axed (eg firefly, futurama) would have actually had more meaning, because the petitioners could have put their money where their mouth is.
Well done, you have now further guaranteed that the remainder of the discussion will be all about The GIMP. Everyone, start digging your trenches!
conjecture: There really isn't much point in bolting down the installation process at such an early stage, so that is why it is such a mess. Most open source apps are a pleasure to install compared to the google soup you get if you are looking for windows apps. There isn't anything that even comes close to package repositories. Which makes your statement rather ironic.
It would be extremely ironic to your point if one day god comes down for a visit and says 'Yeah, science, I did that. Sorry to burst your bubble. Can I have my baskets back now?' Not that I want to make a case for that. Science can be attributed to allowing us as humans to understand the nature of the universe. But the understanding of it has never allowed us to claim 'we did that' - it just allows us to better take advantage of the already existing principles behind anything. If there was a god, why would there be something in his universe that completely undermines his existence? So basically, you can't prove the existence of god, but you can't disprove it either :). All you really have is a stalemate. The question is how much do you want to argue with dangerous religious nuts?