I see you aren't interested in actually discussing this. I can differentiate political speech outside the workplace and behavior inside the workplace. Why can't you?
An important issue here is whether the church should be compelled to recognize or perform gay marriage. Some people think that's not the issue at all, of course, but you can't have a "right" to coerce someone else to perform a service on your behalf. If you're baffled why anyone conflates the two, look to the eHarmony verdict. The religious right found that deeply troubling, along with the current supreme court case (another "requirement to perform and act against conscience" issue), and I can't say they're just paranoid.
I think the whole marriage problem comes from a fundamental failure to separate church and state. We have good laws for business partnerships (and their break-ups), that can easily be extended to civil unions of any kind (by adding hospital visitation rights and the like). "Marriage" to me is a social act that people should be free to choose to recognize or not in each case without any legal significance. But anything that leads to more kids being raised by committed couples is needed in my book, whatever people want to call it.
I'd also add that Professional Drivers receive much more training and the tests are much harder
There's very little traiing or testing to be a taxi driver, or a radio-dispatched courier. In fact, when I did the letter there was none at all - the real barrier was people able to read a map!
Buy anyway, my point was pretty much what you're saying: some people has combine driving and conversations responsibly, others can't. It's the driver, not the phone.
Excel isn't going away any time soon, and PowerPoint isn't going away fast enough! Word rose and fell with desktop publishing, of course, but is actually a decent reader for text eBooks - at least it looks vastly better than Kindle.
I haven't read what Eich wrote because to me it's irrelevant. It's not like I'll be turning to him for moral guidance. But how do you feel about the Dalai Lama? Most of his life has been spent advocating compassion for others, and I'm certain he's spent more time contemplating moral issues than AC has. Yet he objects to gay sex if your a member of his religion. Shall he be ostracized by his fellow man? The Chinese Government have certainly tried its best to make it so.
(If you're wondering how he reconciles that view: he also believes that there's no One True Religion, so each person should find one that's a match for him, and further I think he's OK with celibate gays being Buddhists, though I can't find that directly in his writings)
I'm used to bosses who aren't even vaguely of the same culture as me. God inly knows what we'd disagree on. Doesn't matter to me in the least. I had one boss who demonstrated in the workplace that he was racist in his work-related policies, so I left that job. See the difference?
I have a very high respect for anyone's right to indulge in any political speech they desire. Freedom of offensive and objectionable speech is the only true freedom. Take that away and you'll eventually be left with nothing. And that includes the "hecklers veto" and other such measures, not just government prevention. Just don't carry your prejudices over into (demonstrated, not imagined-it-might-happen-one-day) hiring and promotion policies, and I have no grounds to object.
But this "he has no right to be the boss if his views are objectionable" BS screams intolerance. Different people have different values. Isn't that neat? What a boring old world it would be if we were all the same.
The joke falls flat because every single professional driver with a dispatcher (from taxis to police to heavy trucks) has conversations while driving, often involving reaching for a map. It comes down to the driver.
You should see how the books are cooked for "alcohol-related" crashes. Beer in the trunk of the car that was blindsided? Alcohol-related! Agenda-driven statistics.
I can certainly believe 1-in-4 if you include passengers in the not-at-fault car on the phone as "phone related"
Remember, there are lies, damn lies, and anonymous posts on the internet! Or something like that.
Holding the device always makes it worse, especially when dialing. Especially in a stick-shift.
Many drivers communicate all the time while driving, on the radio or more modern cell-phone based alternative. They have before cell phones existed. It's the driver who's dangerous, not the phone.
Sure, there's an imbalance, but it's far worse is when the boss is also the owner. When the boss is just another employee of the owners, the imbalance is much smaller (heck, a fired of mine who was manager almost got fired himself for asking one of his reports to resign without filling out the paperwork first!). I've also seen managers told "no" when they wanted to fire someone, and I've seen a manager nearly get fired when all the engineers in her group threatened to leave, and a couple of them had left.
Either way, we've gone over the top in America in our intolerance of opposing political religious beliefs! WTF does it matter what you co-workers' belief on gay marriage or abortion is, if you're writing software?!?
Well, employment law prevents discriminatory hiring/firing practices (based on religious and many other factors), and if the guy is qualified for the role, his beliefs and political advocacy are irrelevant, as are those of the employees who disagree with those beliefs. People who preach tolerance need to be tolerant, and if he practices what he preaches in his linked blog post, there shouldn't be a problem.
We've had blacklisting based on political associations before, and I thought we all agreed it's a bad thing?
Being conservative is not a protected class. It's not that rare at certain kinds of companies for people to be shown the door if they're "outed" as a conservative (possibly the most famous being the editor of Playgirl).
For the most part, when people preach "tolerance" they mean "believe everything on my checklist exactly like I do without question", as the word "tolerance" is just a tribal identification signal, not an actual belief. That's really common these days, and I'm really tired of being told I'm a bigot for advocating acceptance of many cultural views!
Depends where you work. I've been at a major corporation where the CEO got the "everyone who works here raise your hand... not so fast!" treatment from the board. Twice now, come to think of it.
And at every big corp I've worked at, you couldn't just fire anyone on a whim, you always had to go through HR, regardless of who you were. Sometimes even for the CEO it's easier just to ask someone to leave.
The absolute best use of a phone in the office IMO is to connect the meeting-room projector/screen to the phone HDMI out and project without needing a laptop. When I worked at VMware we'd do this with a remote desktop app back to a Windows desktop, but just running PPT/Word native is even easier. Plus the opportunities for embarrassing chats popping up are that much better!
If you're in a cruising gear you don't get much engine braking, thus "nearly" coasting (and the bit further down my post about deliberately choosing a lower gear? yeah that bit). But you were only posting to call someone with a UID 10 years older than yours a "kid", weren't you?:p
None of which is really relevant for a hybrid. And of course the Tesla is a fixie.
That's a great design on Ford's part. They really have gotten their act together on most things (if only they'd stop with the deliberately-cheap interiors, a holdover from Mercury and Lincoln still being different brands instead of different trim levels).
Engineer-designed UIs are damned near perfect. As long as you're the engineer that designed them. And it hasn't been too long since you used them.
Ain't it the truth! It's hard to tell from modern software, but you really can make a UI that's easy to learn without being expert-proof! But now the sad trend is to simply remove every seldom-used control entirely - I'm sure "UI designers" will eventually achieve the same degree of uselessness as an unfamiliar engineer-designed UI.
Anime is just TV in Japan, generally targeted at teenagers. Most manga is similar. Many US printed comics have moved their target audience from ~10 to ~15 in recent decades (much thanks to Frank Miller and Neil Gaiman and Alan Moore for elevating the tone), but American cartoons are just starting to make the jump from younger kids to teens. But none of the mainstream stuff is really targeted at adults.
(As an aside, Superman in particular has really struggled with this, with sometimes inspired results. It was a great property for young boys, but taking the character seriously made it very hard to write any sort of convincing plots. But the best art often comes from constraints, and some of the IMO top American comic stories have come from that: he may be impossibly powerful, but he can still be faced with an interesting moral dilemma.)
I love this idea (and why has it taken so long to come to consumer cars), but please don't screw up the basic UI of a car the way some hybrids do! The brake pedal is for braking, dammit; simply lifting off the gas pedal should result in nearly coasting, unless I've deliberately put the car into a low gear for engine braking.
The hybrid I test drove (and I understand this is normal) would do regenerative braking up to the limits of that system on a simple lift-throttle, where the brake pedal was just the brakes. Talk about leaking the implementation details through to the UI! Don't do that!
For all I complain about UI designers, engineer-designed UIs are worse still.
In Japan they don't obsess so much over children's cartoons? Who knew! I'll have you know the last time I ran a lab everything was named after American kids cartoons - America, fuck yeah!
Sad, isn't it? Especially since there's no lack of good writers, just a system that's not interested in them. Eventually we'll get a new system, one not dependent on a choke point that excludes everything worth watching. There's already fan-produced stuff that's mediocre, but that has to slip through the cracks of existing IP. We'll get Indie TV better than what we have now -- if only because the bar is so very low -- once a reasonable way to make a little money off of it is found and shown to work. It might even be something like kickstarter.
Hey, they're in the S&P Global Energy Sector Index, they're energy companies. Feel free to live in the trees, free of any taint of the farce that is economics, if it bothers you so much. Mean while, they're still as happy to sell natural gas as to sell oil, which was my point.
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I see you aren't interested in actually discussing this. I can differentiate political speech outside the workplace and behavior inside the workplace. Why can't you?
An important issue here is whether the church should be compelled to recognize or perform gay marriage. Some people think that's not the issue at all, of course, but you can't have a "right" to coerce someone else to perform a service on your behalf. If you're baffled why anyone conflates the two, look to the eHarmony verdict. The religious right found that deeply troubling, along with the current supreme court case (another "requirement to perform and act against conscience" issue), and I can't say they're just paranoid.
I think the whole marriage problem comes from a fundamental failure to separate church and state. We have good laws for business partnerships (and their break-ups), that can easily be extended to civil unions of any kind (by adding hospital visitation rights and the like). "Marriage" to me is a social act that people should be free to choose to recognize or not in each case without any legal significance. But anything that leads to more kids being raised by committed couples is needed in my book, whatever people want to call it.
What I see is two groups each trying to "strip rights" from each other. Tribal warfare in the modern age. But still far preferable to actual violence.
I'd also add that Professional Drivers receive much more training and the tests are much harder
There's very little traiing or testing to be a taxi driver, or a radio-dispatched courier. In fact, when I did the letter there was none at all - the real barrier was people able to read a map!
Buy anyway, my point was pretty much what you're saying: some people has combine driving and conversations responsibly, others can't. It's the driver, not the phone.
Excel isn't going away any time soon, and PowerPoint isn't going away fast enough! Word rose and fell with desktop publishing, of course, but is actually a decent reader for text eBooks - at least it looks vastly better than Kindle.
I haven't read what Eich wrote because to me it's irrelevant. It's not like I'll be turning to him for moral guidance. But how do you feel about the Dalai Lama? Most of his life has been spent advocating compassion for others, and I'm certain he's spent more time contemplating moral issues than AC has. Yet he objects to gay sex if your a member of his religion. Shall he be ostracized by his fellow man? The Chinese Government have certainly tried its best to make it so.
(If you're wondering how he reconciles that view: he also believes that there's no One True Religion, so each person should find one that's a match for him, and further I think he's OK with celibate gays being Buddhists, though I can't find that directly in his writings)
There are no more conservatives being fired for their opinions than there are anyone else being fired for their views
So that makes it OK then? It's not persecution if we put the Jews and the Gays and the Gypsies in the Camps, right, as long as it's equitable?
Discriminating against someone in the workplace for their political views as expressed outside the workplace is fucking wrong, full stop.
I'm used to bosses who aren't even vaguely of the same culture as me. God inly knows what we'd disagree on. Doesn't matter to me in the least. I had one boss who demonstrated in the workplace that he was racist in his work-related policies, so I left that job. See the difference?
I have a very high respect for anyone's right to indulge in any political speech they desire. Freedom of offensive and objectionable speech is the only true freedom. Take that away and you'll eventually be left with nothing. And that includes the "hecklers veto" and other such measures, not just government prevention. Just don't carry your prejudices over into (demonstrated, not imagined-it-might-happen-one-day) hiring and promotion policies, and I have no grounds to object.
But this "he has no right to be the boss if his views are objectionable" BS screams intolerance. Different people have different values. Isn't that neat? What a boring old world it would be if we were all the same.
You'd think that would be obvious, wouldn't you. :)
The joke falls flat because every single professional driver with a dispatcher (from taxis to police to heavy trucks) has conversations while driving, often involving reaching for a map. It comes down to the driver.
Windows is typically disk I/O bound when it's slow. Booting and launching IE are both amazingly I/O intensive.
You should see how the books are cooked for "alcohol-related" crashes. Beer in the trunk of the car that was blindsided? Alcohol-related! Agenda-driven statistics.
I can certainly believe 1-in-4 if you include passengers in the not-at-fault car on the phone as "phone related"
Remember, there are lies, damn lies, and anonymous posts on the internet! Or something like that.
Holding the device always makes it worse, especially when dialing. Especially in a stick-shift.
Many drivers communicate all the time while driving, on the radio or more modern cell-phone based alternative. They have before cell phones existed. It's the driver who's dangerous, not the phone.
Sure, there's an imbalance, but it's far worse is when the boss is also the owner. When the boss is just another employee of the owners, the imbalance is much smaller (heck, a fired of mine who was manager almost got fired himself for asking one of his reports to resign without filling out the paperwork first!). I've also seen managers told "no" when they wanted to fire someone, and I've seen a manager nearly get fired when all the engineers in her group threatened to leave, and a couple of them had left.
Either way, we've gone over the top in America in our intolerance of opposing political religious beliefs! WTF does it matter what you co-workers' belief on gay marriage or abortion is, if you're writing software?!?
Well, employment law prevents discriminatory hiring/firing practices (based on religious and many other factors), and if the guy is qualified for the role, his beliefs and political advocacy are irrelevant, as are those of the employees who disagree with those beliefs. People who preach tolerance need to be tolerant, and if he practices what he preaches in his linked blog post, there shouldn't be a problem.
We've had blacklisting based on political associations before, and I thought we all agreed it's a bad thing?
Being conservative is not a protected class. It's not that rare at certain kinds of companies for people to be shown the door if they're "outed" as a conservative (possibly the most famous being the editor of Playgirl).
For the most part, when people preach "tolerance" they mean "believe everything on my checklist exactly like I do without question", as the word "tolerance" is just a tribal identification signal, not an actual belief. That's really common these days, and I'm really tired of being told I'm a bigot for advocating acceptance of many cultural views!
Depends where you work. I've been at a major corporation where the CEO got the "everyone who works here raise your hand ... not so fast!" treatment from the board. Twice now, come to think of it.
And at every big corp I've worked at, you couldn't just fire anyone on a whim, you always had to go through HR, regardless of who you were. Sometimes even for the CEO it's easier just to ask someone to leave.
The absolute best use of a phone in the office IMO is to connect the meeting-room projector/screen to the phone HDMI out and project without needing a laptop. When I worked at VMware we'd do this with a remote desktop app back to a Windows desktop, but just running PPT/Word native is even easier. Plus the opportunities for embarrassing chats popping up are that much better!
If you're in a cruising gear you don't get much engine braking, thus "nearly" coasting (and the bit further down my post about deliberately choosing a lower gear? yeah that bit). But you were only posting to call someone with a UID 10 years older than yours a "kid", weren't you? :p
None of which is really relevant for a hybrid. And of course the Tesla is a fixie.
That's a great design on Ford's part. They really have gotten their act together on most things (if only they'd stop with the deliberately-cheap interiors, a holdover from Mercury and Lincoln still being different brands instead of different trim levels).
Engineer-designed UIs are damned near perfect. As long as you're the engineer that designed them. And it hasn't been too long since you used them.
Ain't it the truth! It's hard to tell from modern software, but you really can make a UI that's easy to learn without being expert-proof! But now the sad trend is to simply remove every seldom-used control entirely - I'm sure "UI designers" will eventually achieve the same degree of uselessness as an unfamiliar engineer-designed UI.
Anime is just TV in Japan, generally targeted at teenagers. Most manga is similar. Many US printed comics have moved their target audience from ~10 to ~15 in recent decades (much thanks to Frank Miller and Neil Gaiman and Alan Moore for elevating the tone), but American cartoons are just starting to make the jump from younger kids to teens. But none of the mainstream stuff is really targeted at adults.
(As an aside, Superman in particular has really struggled with this, with sometimes inspired results. It was a great property for young boys, but taking the character seriously made it very hard to write any sort of convincing plots. But the best art often comes from constraints, and some of the IMO top American comic stories have come from that: he may be impossibly powerful, but he can still be faced with an interesting moral dilemma.)
I love this idea (and why has it taken so long to come to consumer cars), but please don't screw up the basic UI of a car the way some hybrids do! The brake pedal is for braking, dammit; simply lifting off the gas pedal should result in nearly coasting, unless I've deliberately put the car into a low gear for engine braking.
The hybrid I test drove (and I understand this is normal) would do regenerative braking up to the limits of that system on a simple lift-throttle, where the brake pedal was just the brakes. Talk about leaking the implementation details through to the UI! Don't do that!
For all I complain about UI designers, engineer-designed UIs are worse still.
In Japan they don't obsess so much over children's cartoons? Who knew! I'll have you know the last time I ran a lab everything was named after American kids cartoons - America, fuck yeah!
Sad, isn't it? Especially since there's no lack of good writers, just a system that's not interested in them. Eventually we'll get a new system, one not dependent on a choke point that excludes everything worth watching. There's already fan-produced stuff that's mediocre, but that has to slip through the cracks of existing IP. We'll get Indie TV better than what we have now -- if only because the bar is so very low -- once a reasonable way to make a little money off of it is found and shown to work. It might even be something like kickstarter.
Hey, they're in the S&P Global Energy Sector Index, they're energy companies. Feel free to live in the trees, free of any taint of the farce that is economics, if it bothers you so much. Mean while, they're still as happy to sell natural gas as to sell oil, which was my point.