I agree with the comments on the editor - I am doing crossplatform development using MSVC on WIndows and gcc+make+emacs+gdb on Linux, and the MS environment is surprisingly(for their product) nice. The debugger, IntelliSense, etc.,etc., are all very helpful. Code optimization is also very nice.
However, there is a major downside: some ANSI non-compliance and annoying bugs. A good example of the first is the ARM-style scoping for the vars declared in the 'for' loop (i.e. if you do for (int c=....) the variable has function scope and not loop scope). This can be very frustrating when perfrectly valid code, tested and debugged on Linux begins spewing out hundreds of errors...
Similarly, some compiler bugs are a pain, and downloading 120MB(OK, so I can order a CD - but why do I need to get fixes for every single MS developer product if I only use C++?) "patch" is not sane using a modem. For instance,(I don't remember the details),but I think that if you don't declare members of a nested class inline, they'll be "lost" in derived classes. Took me a couple hours to find out the info in the KB. Ouch
So, to sum up, there are a lot of nice things about MSVC, but a bit of standards compliance wouldn't hurt...
P.S. On crashing MSVC 6 - this is pre-service pack, so might be fixed - just setup it to use outside tools that don't exist.
Quite true on the presonal preference statement. I will give an example:I personally dislike the interface of MacOS because it doesn't offer a command line. I find it very useful under Linux - wildcard based cp and mv can very powerful. Many people, on other hand, are happy to use GUI all the time.
Seems like people misunderstood this.. Actually,the archive doesn't even include a program for a TI-85. In fact, they don't even mention 85. Basically, the setup connects a GraphLink cable from a calculator to the modem through a few adaptors, and uses a terminal program to access it. It does list program for the 82, 83 and 86. My guess it that this should probably also work on the 89 and 92, if their GraphLinks are similar. On a related note, you can use a TI calc as a terminal for a Linux system, by putting a GraphLink between them and setting the port to 9600. (It work,s but I don't know how to create Terminal info file,s so it's not very useful) -Maksim
I am sorry if this have already been posted, but I would appreciate if someone posted some links. One thing that media stated that seems to be true is that the protests represent the variety of groups. What they never stated, and what I didn't see here (although I probably missed it) is what are the specific demands beyond general categories. I feel that knowing what I am talking about would help... Thanks you.
Stone age programming technology? C++ is certainly not that. Strings can be handled with class to do all neccessary bounds checking..Thaer, it's programmmers deciding to use a char[] in an improper place.
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I agree with the comments on the editor - I am doing crossplatform development using MSVC on WIndows and gcc+make+emacs+gdb on Linux, and the MS environment is surprisingly(for their product) nice. The debugger, IntelliSense, etc.,etc., are all very helpful. Code optimization is also very nice.
However, there is a major downside: some ANSI non-compliance and annoying bugs. A good example of the first is the ARM-style scoping for the vars declared in the 'for' loop (i.e. if you do for (int c=....) the variable has function scope and not loop scope). This can be very frustrating when perfrectly valid code, tested and debugged on Linux begins spewing out hundreds of errors...
Similarly, some compiler bugs are a pain, and downloading 120MB(OK, so I can order a CD - but why do I need to get fixes for every single MS developer product if I only use C++?) "patch" is not sane using a modem. For instance,(I don't remember the details),but I think that if you don't declare members of a nested class inline, they'll be "lost" in derived classes. Took me a couple hours to find out the info in the KB. Ouch
So, to sum up, there are a lot of nice things about MSVC, but a bit of standards compliance wouldn't hurt...P.S. On crashing MSVC 6 - this is pre-service pack, so might be fixed - just setup it to use outside tools that don't exist.
Quite true on the presonal preference statement. I will give an example:I personally dislike the interface of MacOS because it doesn't offer a command line. I find it very useful under Linux - wildcard based cp and mv can very powerful. Many people, on other hand, are happy to use GUI all the time.
Seems like people misunderstood this.. Actually,the archive doesn't even include a program for a TI-85. In fact, they don't even mention 85. Basically, the setup connects a GraphLink cable from a calculator to the modem through a few adaptors, and uses a terminal program to access it. It does list program for the 82, 83 and 86. My guess it that this should probably also work on the 89 and 92, if their GraphLinks are similar. On a related note, you can use a TI calc as a terminal for a Linux system, by putting a GraphLink between them and setting the port to 9600. (It work,s but I don't know how to create Terminal info file,s so it's not very useful) -Maksim
I am sorry if this have already been posted, but I would appreciate if someone posted some links. One thing that media stated that seems to be true is that the protests represent the variety of groups. What they never stated, and what I didn't see here (although I probably missed it) is what are the specific demands beyond general categories. I feel that knowing what I am talking about would help... Thanks you.
Stone age programming technology? C++ is certainly not that. Strings can be handled with class to do all neccessary bounds checking..Thaer, it's programmmers deciding to use a char[] in an improper place.