Ok... so I'm no computer geek, but I've spent alot of time on them over the years (22 now so probably at least 12 with computers) trying to get shit to work,etc, and moreso I'm interested (I like knowing but don't have unlimited time to spend on everything I like knowing about) in how it all works. Always been windows, except for at gradeschool where we had iMacs. Anyway, so my buddy gave me a kubuntu version whatever live cd/install cd the other week, I messed around for it with a bit, and everything was just more confusing. Now I realize the role familiarity is playing here, but it wasn't just that. It was that if I was wondering how to do something, I would look it up and come across so much jargon and other stuff I didn't understand (because the advice/help assumed that I had some sort of previous knowledge) that looking it all up just wasn't worth it to switch. Now I also have a laptop with a messed up power input jack that I might get fixed and use to explore the world of linux so I never have to pay for an OS again, but at this point it just wasn't worth it for me to switch. So, what am I missing? What feature(s) (besides cost and idealism)does an open source OS allow someone like me that windows doesn't?
Complaining about apparent nuance in the deity's creation is kind of like complaining that your stoner parents are straight-laced professionals now, even though they tell you they were stoners whenever you ask.
I don't understand the point of the analogy. Are you saying that we shouldn't criticize sell-outs, or that god was immature and changed his ways as he became wiser over time, or what?
Ok man, Im gunna be completely honest with you... I love this but I can send you shit I made up that sounds the same as alot of shit and singing isnt necessary but if your trying to make moeny or something I dunno but music is an awesome hobby and i can send you my own shit if you know a good way to do it (its guitar based) and maybe you can gain something from me like i did from you because thats what this internet thing is all about
so im about to download your stuff... Im form chicago Ive been in a band with marimbas before so we'll see but that website was really confusing as the other replier said. This post is so I'll get back to you
Thats another thing, i never use address books and dont think anyone I know (not counting professional kind of emails) does either, I guess I just dont do that much emailing
So you're saying that if I simply had two yahoo accounts and treated one the same as I currently treat the school one, I would get spam? I guess I wouldn't know but itd be interesting to find out.
I never get spam, I have my school email address I use for trusted sites and people while everything else goes to a yahoo account. The yahoo account is filled with spam, but since I only have to check the newest mail whenever I use it its not a big deal. Am I missing something here?
Well I was trying to stay away from all the issues with it (I mean I think you guys missed the most important one "why should I pay for your medication?" (especially since theres all those naturopathic people etc out there), and just make the point that the fact it costs alot doesnt mean the government shouldnt fund it. About India undercutting, Id say that there would definately be an international patent of some sort but it would make sense since any money generated would go back to the drug development program
What I wanted to find out is the annual consumer spending on drugs and compare that to your number of $10 billion
So according to this drug companies made 35.9 billion dollars in 2002. Its not exactly the data I wanted but you can figure that money already supplied by the government(medicare, etc) and money "wasted" (would be unnecessary otherwise) on marketing will cancel each other out to some extent. The ultimate point was that people are privately spending tens of billions of dollars a year on patented medicines right now anyway, if we did away with patents and just funneled that into research (via taxes)it could be that everyone ends up paying less for their medicines.
So really patents aren't obviously necessary to the process of drug discovery.
Same deal up here at loyola, theyve got a whole thing set up with emails, text messages, phone calls, probably even something else. Got instituted after the NIU shooting.
well if you hunt someone down and kill them (and they see you coming) youll probably be taking adrenaline in with that (never saw anything saying so but at stomach pH i imagine itd be absorbed)which would make you stronger for a bit.
Humans do have an innate immune system, and an adaptive immune system on top of it. Ours is actually "more evolved" really in that its more efficient (doesn't destroy tissue due to every little infection). The alligator approach is more of a brute force method in that their innate immune system is apparently more robust and they sit around most of the time so they can automatically devote more energy to healing than us constantly tapping our feet mammals can.
What we really need is a drug for restless mouth syndrome. "Do you find yourself going on and on about whatever you happen to be thinking about, until people tell you they just don't care? You may have RMS, visit www.rms.com to find out if you have RMS. Small print: Shhhitol is not approved by the FDA for treatment of RMS, consult your physician before beginning any off-label drug regimine"
...what they actually found out)
Abstract
We are using mass spectrometry based proteomics to investigate immune related proteins of the American alligator (Alligator mississippiensis). Alligators have an innate immune system, meaning that they require no specific exposure to an antigen to illicit an immune system response. Alligators were captured and blood was drawn from internal jugular vein. Adult alligators were injected with lipopolysaccharide (LPS) to activate their immune system. Serum was collected from the whole blood by homogenizing and centrifugation followed by salt removal using 20% trichloroacetic acid. Proteins expressed after exposure to LPS was separated using 2D-gel electrophoresis. The down-regulated proteins were isolated and digested for identification. Analysis was performed using nano-ESI-MS/MS on a quadrupole time-of-flight mass spectrometer and identified with MASCOT using MSDB and NCBInr database. When uninfected alligator serum was compared to LPS exposed serum the protein expression changed, indicating that the alligators produce significant innate immunological proteins when exposed to an infection.
So patents may or may not (depending on the what it is) encourage the creation of new ideas/ways of doing things and inhibit efficient implementation of those ideas. So don't throw out the baby with the bathwater, but there's got to be some way to tell the difference between a worthwhile baby and a non-worthwhile one. Or at least a better way than the current system uses. Really my point is that you missed the point about creation/development of novel ideas.
True happiness is a carrot people dangle in front of themselves, the game doesn't work that way (you're meant to pass on genes, not be happy). If its anything at all it would be a state of mind, probably transitive at that.
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Ok... so I'm no computer geek, but I've spent alot of time on them over the years (22 now so probably at least 12 with computers) trying to get shit to work,etc, and moreso I'm interested (I like knowing but don't have unlimited time to spend on everything I like knowing about) in how it all works. Always been windows, except for at gradeschool where we had iMacs. Anyway, so my buddy gave me a kubuntu version whatever live cd/install cd the other week, I messed around for it with a bit, and everything was just more confusing. Now I realize the role familiarity is playing here, but it wasn't just that. It was that if I was wondering how to do something, I would look it up and come across so much jargon and other stuff I didn't understand (because the advice/help assumed that I had some sort of previous knowledge) that looking it all up just wasn't worth it to switch. Now I also have a laptop with a messed up power input jack that I might get fixed and use to explore the world of linux so I never have to pay for an OS again, but at this point it just wasn't worth it for me to switch. So, what am I missing? What feature(s) (besides cost and idealism)does an open source OS allow someone like me that windows doesn't?
hilarious
besides your mom, of course
pornware?
Ok man, Im gunna be completely honest with you... I love this but I can send you shit I made up that sounds the same as alot of shit and singing isnt necessary but if your trying to make moeny or something I dunno but music is an awesome hobby and i can send you my own shit if you know a good way to do it (its guitar based) and maybe you can gain something from me like i did from you because thats what this internet thing is all about
ps ignore my bad grammer
so im about to download your stuff... Im form chicago Ive been in a band with marimbas before so we'll see but that website was really confusing as the other replier said. This post is so I'll get back to you
Thats another thing, i never use address books and dont think anyone I know (not counting professional kind of emails) does either, I guess I just dont do that much emailing
Stephen King is that you?
So you're saying that if I simply had two yahoo accounts and treated one the same as I currently treat the school one, I would get spam? I guess I wouldn't know but itd be interesting to find out.
I never get spam, I have my school email address I use for trusted sites and people while everything else goes to a yahoo account. The yahoo account is filled with spam, but since I only have to check the newest mail whenever I use it its not a big deal. Am I missing something here?
Well I was trying to stay away from all the issues with it (I mean I think you guys missed the most important one "why should I pay for your medication?" (especially since theres all those naturopathic people etc out there), and just make the point that the fact it costs alot doesnt mean the government shouldnt fund it. About India undercutting, Id say that there would definately be an international patent of some sort but it would make sense since any money generated would go back to the drug development program
What I wanted to find out is the annual consumer spending on drugs and compare that to your number of $10 billion So according to this drug companies made 35.9 billion dollars in 2002. Its not exactly the data I wanted but you can figure that money already supplied by the government(medicare, etc) and money "wasted" (would be unnecessary otherwise) on marketing will cancel each other out to some extent. The ultimate point was that people are privately spending tens of billions of dollars a year on patented medicines right now anyway, if we did away with patents and just funneled that into research (via taxes)it could be that everyone ends up paying less for their medicines.
So really patents aren't obviously necessary to the process of drug discovery.
Same deal up here at loyola, theyve got a whole thing set up with emails, text messages, phone calls, probably even something else. Got instituted after the NIU shooting.
well if you hunt someone down and kill them (and they see you coming) youll probably be taking adrenaline in with that (never saw anything saying so but at stomach pH i imagine itd be absorbed)which would make you stronger for a bit.
so are humans?
Depending on who you ask anywhere from 5121 years 12 months and 360 days ago to 77.76 trillion years ago
You've obviously never been involved in an epic battle. Look at god and satan. Are they bored?
Humans do have an innate immune system, and an adaptive immune system on top of it. Ours is actually "more evolved" really in that its more efficient (doesn't destroy tissue due to every little infection). The alligator approach is more of a brute force method in that their innate immune system is apparently more robust and they sit around most of the time so they can automatically devote more energy to healing than us constantly tapping our feet mammals can.
how would you know if it had or not?
What we really need is a drug for restless mouth syndrome. "Do you find yourself going on and on about whatever you happen to be thinking about, until people tell you they just don't care? You may have RMS, visit www.rms.com to find out if you have RMS. Small print: Shhhitol is not approved by the FDA for treatment of RMS, consult your physician before beginning any off-label drug regimine"
Dibs on the sharks
...what they actually found out) Abstract We are using mass spectrometry based proteomics to investigate immune related proteins of the American alligator (Alligator mississippiensis). Alligators have an innate immune system, meaning that they require no specific exposure to an antigen to illicit an immune system response. Alligators were captured and blood was drawn from internal jugular vein. Adult alligators were injected with lipopolysaccharide (LPS) to activate their immune system. Serum was collected from the whole blood by homogenizing and centrifugation followed by salt removal using 20% trichloroacetic acid. Proteins expressed after exposure to LPS was separated using 2D-gel electrophoresis. The down-regulated proteins were isolated and digested for identification. Analysis was performed using nano-ESI-MS/MS on a quadrupole time-of-flight mass spectrometer and identified with MASCOT using MSDB and NCBInr database. When uninfected alligator serum was compared to LPS exposed serum the protein expression changed, indicating that the alligators produce significant innate immunological proteins when exposed to an infection.
So patents may or may not (depending on the what it is) encourage the creation of new ideas/ways of doing things and inhibit efficient implementation of those ideas. So don't throw out the baby with the bathwater, but there's got to be some way to tell the difference between a worthwhile baby and a non-worthwhile one. Or at least a better way than the current system uses. Really my point is that you missed the point about creation/development of novel ideas.
True happiness is a carrot people dangle in front of themselves, the game doesn't work that way (you're meant to pass on genes, not be happy). If its anything at all it would be a state of mind, probably transitive at that.