The point that we have to get away from our keyboards and start "pounding the pavement" is a very good one. We have spent a lot of time incubating this tecnhology and culture and lifestyle, and it is now to the point where out "geek" culture is going to go head to head with the "establishment". And, like it or not, we have to play by their rules just as much as they have to play by ours. We're not going to win with code... though we'll certainly give them QUITE a scare.
Don't get me wrong. We hold quite a bit of power and most of the cards. But they hold a few important ones and we're going to have to work within them. this will ultimately be judged in the court of law and public opinion.
So, yes. Protest. Boycott. Use all the tools we have. We're entrenched but we're not undefeatable.
While it may be true that Jon is not a perfect fit for the/. crowd, he is obviously in his element here, and I found this excerpt to be really good. I think I even recognized a quote from something I sent him a couple of years ago:-)
Truth is, I heard a story once about a man who said almost exactly that... and he found a woman exactly like he wanted. And she was happy too.
It's not about what you're supposed to do... if you want to be a geek and a woman... go for it! But there's no shame in being a housewife either. Just depends on what you want to do.
And, I can see this coming a mile away - no, I did not say this to impress anyone. And in fact, whether I did or not is immaterial.
Look for "She's finally naked, now let's go for petrified!" I think they're on (seriously) www.badassmofo.com. If you can't figure out how to mail me, don't.
Nice troll. I submit it is you who are ignoring the facts. IP is not a license to step over people. IMO (and because IANAL that probably makes it more right) if I pay for content I should have the right to listen to it any damn way I want. You can keep your head up your ass all you want, enjoy the view, but at least for me and many people like me, this is not about IP, rather, this is about a large consortium of companies, as George Carlin says, "SERVICING *thrust* THE *thrust* ACCOUNT!"
What we shouldn't forget is that Jon is just one of the most highly visible scapegoats for the MPAA and their Police subdivision. We must help Jon with his fight, or it will be us, next.
If there's a fund set up for his defense, I will be one of the first to contribute.
I've done the same thing with Digital Unix (now Tru64:P) and their LVM. It's quite impressive to watch. I hope that part is being ported or will be ported soon. That would be a major improvement for fault-tolerance.
Swapping disk drives without the user even knowing. Now THAT'S impressive.
So... what? Does this mean that the JFS will now misreport your disk usage, burrow through your hard drive for nasties and send them to the editor for publication?
What's that? It's not the Journalist File System? Never mind then.
To those that say "show me the code"... IBM is showing us the code. I think they should be commended for their obvious support of Open Source (free) software.
Anyonw know how good the JFS is? Should we use it?
If it were simply a matter of preventing shareware cheating, that's one thing. First of all, FTOPro is not shareware, it's evaluation software. Second of all, they hold the *ISP* responsible for the actions of users. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but the ISP didn't have anything to do with the user not paying the fee.
It also sends the username and host information to PROFtp, which is, IMO, something of an invasion of privacy.
If they use it, the software sends a mail to ProFTP containing the username of the account, and the hostname it was connected to. They then send an email to that ISP, stating that the ISP will be held responsible for the actions of the user under the DMCA, and that they must temrinate the account if the user does not pay.
The letter is actually quite nasty, saying something to the effect of "we do not wish to receive any excuses or justifications for non-payment".
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You are correct. I have put my money where my mouth is. Others have to. But we need to be even more active.
To the rest of you: Where are you? Do something about it!
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The point that we have to get away from our keyboards and start "pounding the pavement" is a very good one. We have spent a lot of time incubating this tecnhology and culture and lifestyle, and it is now to the point where out "geek" culture is going to go head to head with the "establishment". And, like it or not, we have to play by their rules just as much as they have to play by ours. We're not going to win with code... though we'll certainly give them QUITE a scare.
Don't get me wrong. We hold quite a bit of power and most of the cards. But they hold a few important ones and we're going to have to work within them. this will ultimately be judged in the court of law and public opinion.
So, yes. Protest. Boycott. Use all the tools we have. We're entrenched but we're not undefeatable.
If you can't figure out how to mail me, don't.
Methinks thou dost protesteth too much.
Come on... it's not a typical thing... just ignore it if you don't like it.
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While it may be true that Jon is not a perfect fit for the /. crowd, he is obviously in his element here, and I found this excerpt to be really good. I think I even recognized a quote from something I sent him a couple of years ago :-)
I'll buy the book when I get some extra money.
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omg that's hilarious! I bookmarked it!
Sometimes you trolls are annoying but I have no doubt after this that you consider it an art and work really hard on it...
Wonder what you could accomplish if you used your powers for good...
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Truth is, I heard a story once about a man who said almost exactly that... and he found a woman exactly like he wanted. And she was happy too.
It's not about what you're supposed to do... if you want to be a geek and a woman... go for it! But there's no shame in being a housewife either. Just depends on what you want to do.
And, I can see this coming a mile away - no, I did not say this to impress anyone. And in fact, whether I did or not is immaterial.
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And I'm risking major flamage here, but... I couldn't agree more :-)
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My question is this: shouldn't they have known this before doing anything? After all... "whois" isn't exactly... obscure...
That's just dumb.
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That is probably true. But $10,000 - even to a millionaire - is a nice chunk of change.
Then again, if you meet some minimum standards maybe you can crash here too :-)*
* standards available upon request. JustShootMe reserves the right to refuse anyone for any reason. By invitation only. Your mileage may vary.
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That is an EXCELLENT idea. count me in.
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Even if he is... it shows he's putting his money where his mouth is. It's still worthy of great respect. $10,000 is not chump change.
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So Alan Cox gave his $10,000US to the EFF for defense. THAT floors me. But my respect for AC just went up a great deal.
I'd like to shake his hand someday. Hey, Alan, if you're ever in Portland, you've got a place to crash :-)
We could all learn from that example!
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It's in one of the trolls a few aticles back.
Look for "She's finally naked, now let's go for petrified!" I think they're on (seriously) www.badassmofo.com.
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I'd like to see you do that!
That would be an extremely interesting (and probably impossible) engineering challenge. Wonder if we can make lead-lined lego bricks...
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I can think of lots of uses for this:
- Bring to court and bop MPAA lawyers with legos. Won't do much harm but if you get em in the right place they'll look like they have acne.
- Give to Richard Stallman so he can enforce the GPL. "Stop or I'll Lego". Poetic geek justice.
- Equip all the Jon Katz flamers with one and set up a shooting range. Maybe they'll get it out of their system.
- Build a scale model of the MPAA building out of balsa wood and shoot it down with a hundred lego guns at point-blank range. Fun for the whole family!
- Build a statue of Natalie Portman naked. Maybe then the trolls would finally shut up. You may use the recent Sun photos as a template.
These are just a few uses for arguably the most important invention of the 21st century to-date!Thank you. I now return you to your regularly scheduled trolling, hot grits, natalie portman naked and petrified, etc.
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Nice troll. I submit it is you who are ignoring the facts. IP is not a license to step over people. IMO (and because IANAL that probably makes it more right) if I pay for content I should have the right to listen to it any damn way I want. You can keep your head up your ass all you want, enjoy the view, but at least for me and many people like me, this is not about IP, rather, this is about a large consortium of companies, as George Carlin says, "SERVICING *thrust* THE *thrust* ACCOUNT!"
Your rant has not moved me in the slightest.
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Thanks for the informative answers.
What we shouldn't forget is that Jon is just one of the most highly visible scapegoats for the MPAA and their Police subdivision. We must help Jon with his fight, or it will be us, next.
If there's a fund set up for his defense, I will be one of the first to contribute.
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Wow. Count me as a potential convert too. Ext2 is cool but it's not quite a workhorse.
Does JFS support file attributes (such as immutable or append-only) like ext2 does?
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I've done the same thing with Digital Unix (now Tru64 :P) and their LVM. It's quite impressive to watch. I hope that part is being ported or will be ported soon. That would be a major improvement for fault-tolerance.
Swapping disk drives without the user even knowing. Now THAT'S impressive.
If you can't figure out how to mail me, don't.
So... what? Does this mean that the JFS will now misreport your disk usage, burrow through your hard drive for nasties and send them to the editor for publication?
What's that? It's not the Journalist File System? Never mind then.
If you can't figure out how to mail me, don't.
To those that say "show me the code"... IBM is showing us the code. I think they should be commended for their obvious support of Open Source (free) software.
Anyonw know how good the JFS is? Should we use it?
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Actually, I am quite anti-religious. I just can see the "handwriting on the wall", to quote a saying with bilical origins.
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You obviously missed my point in a big way.
If it were simply a matter of preventing shareware cheating, that's one thing. First of all, FTOPro is not shareware, it's evaluation software. Second of all, they hold the *ISP* responsible for the actions of users. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but the ISP didn't have anything to do with the user not paying the fee.
It also sends the username and host information to PROFtp, which is, IMO, something of an invasion of privacy.
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Then it is FTPPro I am referring to. Thanks for clearing that up. I wasn't one hundred percent sure, and I stated so.
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If they use it, the software sends a mail to ProFTP containing the username of the account, and the hostname it was connected to. They then send an email to that ISP, stating that the ISP will be held responsible for the actions of the user under the DMCA, and that they must temrinate the account if the user does not pay.
The letter is actually quite nasty, saying something to the effect of "we do not wish to receive any excuses or justifications for non-payment".
Quite nasty.
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