...whether to be concerned or amazed. This is certainly quite an advance for gaming, but I know firsthand how addictive things like this could be, and I have a feeling they'd only get worse the more realistic it becomes.
(I'm imagining a bunch of teenage kids still living at home never leaving their "lair" rather than to eat and drink... or maybe not even that)...
I'm not convinced it's a bad thing, I just kinda wish that a heightened sense of responsibility came with all of these kinds of advancements...
(Apologies for the spelling errors, I just bought one of those damn ergonomic kbds...)
MAD SCIENTIST #1: Hey. I've got an idea MS #2: What's that MS #1: Let's fake the Mrs Lander signals! MS #2: Yeah! That sounds great! heeheehee *Mad scientists tweak a few buttons and turn a few dials* MS #1: HEY! LOOK! We ended up on slashdot! YAY! *Mad scientists turn off equipment*
See, boys and girls, someday, you'll end up, in a VAN, DOWN BY THE RIVER! (apologies to Chris Farley, oh, wait, he isn't anymore) If you can't figure out how to mail me, don't.
Yeah, a little company won a battle against one company. But in the fact if the DVD/CCA issues going on, I see no reason to celebrate./p If you can't figure out how to mail me, don't.
As a comment in the article stated, if they were serious about this, then they would have done it a long time ago.
Solaris may be more robust in some ways, but the fact is that they simply cannot compete well against Linux. This is, to me, just a simple admission of this fact.
They're playing catch-up now against an OS with much greater potential and much greater momentum. This is encouraging, though. This means that the OS is starting to become a commodity. MS will be the last to go... but when they do, it'll be spectacular.
...and then I saw this. It's a shock to me, I'm having a hard time dealing with this.
The MPAA has gone way, way too far. I am so ticked off I can hardly see straight. I'd feel better if I thought we had a chance in hell of defending ourselves against this. Before tonight, I thought we did. Now I'm not so sure.
This is not for the legistators to decide. This is a matter of individual University policy. It sounds to me like some overly moralistic legislator is attempting to regulate something that should be self-regulated.
I don't like it when U regulators make these rules either, but at least then you can go to another college in the same area. This regulation is effectively trying to take this option away.
Actually, I agree with you. I think it's neat, but I think it really belongs as a "quickie". This isn't as appealing as... say... bashing the CCA/MPAA or putting borg hardware on ol' Bill...
But I wanted to hide all that stuff from the support people, who were weaned on macs. I didn't feel like trying to teach them how to use the unix CLI, I just didn't have enough time. But webmin assumed that they knew that stuff. And it didn't give me an option to hide the unneccessary stuff out, I had to hack that in manually, something I DIDN'T have the time to do.
for people who have experience with unix, it would work. For support applications, especially when the support staff isn't up to speed, it sucks.
I don't remember them getting acquired by caldera. When did that happen?
Nothing. But saying that newbies shouldn't even start using Linux and shouldn't seek help if they have a truly intractable problem *is* elitist.
Sorry, I don't buy it. I answer people's questions when they ask me because it's the Right Thing to Do. I don't care who tells me I shouldn't. It's elitist for me to flame someone just because thy odn't know better. Like it or not, this is a Window's world and we'll gain more momentum by playing within the rules and changing them from within. And, again, like it or not, Windows users are mostly helpless. Blame MS, not the user.
I've used webmin. It works but I found it very lacking in a lot of respects. It's not easily configurable and it's not under the GPL, you're not permitted to redistribute your changes.
I gave it to the support staff where I used to work... they didn't like it and I came to realize it was a mistake.
Yes and look at their market share as compared to Windows. It's paltry. True, they have lots of commercially viable SERVER software, but the average end user isn't interested in that. They'll be content to let someone else do that, I could almost hear the shouts of glee when I set up an IRC server for a friend. But when it comes to end-user software, I stand by my statement.
And I don't particularly like babysitting idiots either, but at the same time I don't like the elitism that a lot of the Linux community shows when faced with this problem. Give them what they want. Give us what we want. Everyone's happy and the world benefits.
I'm not saying to make it "idiot-proof". I like linux precisely because it gives me such fine control over the OS. I"m just saying that there's no reason not to give the idiots the tools to stay away from that kinda control if they don't want it. Maybe like two layers - one idiot-proof, but you can drop into the more detailed version if you want it...
I see nothing wrong with making it appealing to the "idiots". We don't have to sacrifice anything but our elitism.
Because the "idiots", as you put it, are the ones who buy the software, and Linux isn't going to be very commercially viable unless the "idiots" can set it up and use it. And Linux will have to be commercially viable to get the same attention from large developers that Windows does...
I think you went too far the other direction. I think socialism (and even communism) in its pure form is an admirable goal - BUT ONLY VOLUNTARILY. That's where the major communistic societies screwed up - by forcing people who didn't agree to be a part of their society... and turning into a police state when people didn't agree. It doesn't have to be a system where human rights are violated - it can be a system that affirms human rights... when done right. So far it hasn't. I'm not sure if it can. Human nature, with its greed and arrogance, tends to get in the way and subvert it.
That being said, I also abhor capitalism. Sure, it has some benefits, but at what cost? The loss of individual freedoms as corporations and those who have the money take over the society? No thanks. It's the best we got right now... but I can and do hope for something better.
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Just as a nitpicker, it's "nauseated"...
Otherwise, it's a good idea. :-)
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(I'm imagining a bunch of teenage kids still living at home never leaving their "lair" rather than to eat and drink... or maybe not even that)...
I'm not convinced it's a bad thing, I just kinda wish that a heightened sense of responsibility came with all of these kinds of advancements...
(Apologies for the spelling errors, I just bought one of those damn ergonomic kbds...)
If you can't figure out how to mail me, don't.
MAD SCIENTIST #1: Hey. I've got an idea
MS #2: What's that
MS #1: Let's fake the Mrs Lander signals!
MS #2: Yeah! That sounds great! heeheehee
*Mad scientists tweak a few buttons and turn a few dials*
MS #1: HEY! LOOK! We ended up on slashdot! YAY!
*Mad scientists turn off equipment*
See, boys and girls, someday, you'll end up, in a VAN, DOWN BY THE RIVER! (apologies to Chris Farley, oh, wait, he isn't anymore)
If you can't figure out how to mail me, don't.
Isn't it possible to reject any cookies from doubleclick.com?
Not that I think this ia good thing, I think it's abhorrent. But one would think that's one way to combat it...
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Yeah, a little company won a battle against one company. But in the fact if the DVD/CCA issues going on, I see no reason to celebrate. /p
If you can't figure out how to mail me, don't.
Solaris may be more robust in some ways, but the fact is that they simply cannot compete well against Linux. This is, to me, just a simple admission of this fact.
They're playing catch-up now against an OS with much greater potential and much greater momentum. This is encouraging, though. This means that the OS is starting to become a commodity. MS will be the last to go... but when they do, it'll be spectacular.
If you can't figure out how to mail me, don't.
The MPAA has gone way, way too far. I am so ticked off I can hardly see straight. I'd feel better if I thought we had a chance in hell of defending ourselves against this. Before tonight, I thought we did. Now I'm not so sure.
Fuck them.
If you can't figure out how to mail me, don't.
POLICE: "Police! Open up!"
POOR COLLEGE STUDENT: "Ooooooh, I already ammmmmmm..."
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If it is then most of the right-wing nuts, a large portion of the religious fanatics, and a few miscellaneous loonies must be deluded.
Oh, wait...
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Agreed. I just wish they'd be a little less friggin *obnoxious*.
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This is not for the legistators to decide. This is a matter of individual University policy. It sounds to me like some overly moralistic legislator is attempting to regulate something that should be self-regulated.
I don't like it when U regulators make these rules either, but at least then you can go to another college in the same area. This regulation is effectively trying to take this option away.
If you can't figure out how to mail me, don't.
Actually, I agree with you. I think it's neat, but I think it really belongs as a "quickie". This isn't as appealing as... say... bashing the CCA/MPAA or putting borg hardware on ol' Bill...
If you can't figure out how to mail me, don't.
But I wanted to hide all that stuff from the support people, who were weaned on macs. I didn't feel like trying to teach them how to use the unix CLI, I just didn't have enough time. But webmin assumed that they knew that stuff. And it didn't give me an option to hide the unneccessary stuff out, I had to hack that in manually, something I DIDN'T have the time to do.
for people who have experience with unix, it would work. For support applications, especially when the support staff isn't up to speed, it sucks.
I don't remember them getting acquired by caldera. When did that happen?
If you can't figure out how to mail me, don't.
And I hope make it a little more difficult for the feds to wiretap...
If you can't figure out how to mail me, don't.
Nothing. But saying that newbies shouldn't even start using Linux and shouldn't seek help if they have a truly intractable problem *is* elitist.
Sorry, I don't buy it. I answer people's questions when they ask me because it's the Right Thing to Do. I don't care who tells me I shouldn't. It's elitist for me to flame someone just because thy odn't know better. Like it or not, this is a Window's world and we'll gain more momentum by playing within the rules and changing them from within. And, again, like it or not, Windows users are mostly helpless. Blame MS, not the user.
If you can't figure out how to mail me, don't.
I've used webmin. It works but I found it very lacking in a lot of respects. It's not easily configurable and it's not under the GPL, you're not permitted to redistribute your changes.
I gave it to the support staff where I used to work... they didn't like it and I came to realize it was a mistake.
If you can't figure out how to mail me, don't.
Yes and look at their market share as compared to Windows. It's paltry. True, they have lots of commercially viable SERVER software, but the average end user isn't interested in that. They'll be content to let someone else do that, I could almost hear the shouts of glee when I set up an IRC server for a friend. But when it comes to end-user software, I stand by my statement.
And I don't particularly like babysitting idiots either, but at the same time I don't like the elitism that a lot of the Linux community shows when faced with this problem. Give them what they want. Give us what we want. Everyone's happy and the world benefits.
If you can't figure out how to mail me, don't.
I'm not saying to make it "idiot-proof". I like linux precisely because it gives me such fine control over the OS. I"m just saying that there's no reason not to give the idiots the tools to stay away from that kinda control if they don't want it. Maybe like two layers - one idiot-proof, but you can drop into the more detailed version if you want it...
I see nothing wrong with making it appealing to the "idiots". We don't have to sacrifice anything but our elitism.
If you can't figure out how to mail me, don't.
This is a person that was brand new to Linux. You can hardly expect someone like that to just dive in and write it. You were new to Linux once, right?
I swear, it's attitudes like these that make me wonder how Linux ever got anywhere.
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This sounds good, do you have a name for the product so we'll know what to look for??
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Because the "idiots", as you put it, are the ones who buy the software, and Linux isn't going to be very commercially viable unless the "idiots" can set it up and use it. And Linux will have to be commercially viable to get the same attention from large developers that Windows does...
If you can't figure out how to mail me, don't.
I think you went too far the other direction. I think socialism (and even communism) in its pure form is an admirable goal - BUT ONLY VOLUNTARILY. That's where the major communistic societies screwed up - by forcing people who didn't agree to be a part of their society... and turning into a police state when people didn't agree. It doesn't have to be a system where human rights are violated - it can be a system that affirms human rights... when done right. So far it hasn't. I'm not sure if it can. Human nature, with its greed and arrogance, tends to get in the way and subvert it.
That being said, I also abhor capitalism. Sure, it has some benefits, but at what cost? The loss of individual freedoms as corporations and those who have the money take over the society? No thanks. It's the best we got right now... but I can and do hope for something better.
If you can't figure out how to mail me, don't.
Wow, these people are really running scared... lawsuits ater lawsuit. Whack-a-mole on a GRAND scale...
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I'd like to see the AC who keeps talking about people naked and petrified, naked and petrified.
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I say if someone is going to do this then I'll be happy to donate some moolah. I think it's a great idea. Cept I think perhaps the New York Times...
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