what is their copyright enforcement. Surely iptables, perhaps getting an admin to use wireshark and send a few cease and desist emails, would be enough to stop 90% of filesharing, and no tools can stop the other 5%.
and nowhere will they mention that crashes are handled much better in IE7 than FF3 or 3.1 I may be an avid linux user but i have to give the IE guys credit for the tab isolated crashing. I'm not sure if it works due to aforementioned linux use, but i find it wierd that this is rarely mentioned as an IE feature, when it was 50% of chromes selling point.
hows that going, when i gave it a try last time it was too hard to get setup right (the delay needed setting manualy and was hard to judge as lag varied a bit), and seemed to use alot of CPU. Is it playable by joe blogs yet?
erm theres a difference between gtfo and discomuniacion in that 1 is asking person A to leave the other is asking person A to never speak to person B. If A is freinds with B and A is told to GTFO, he can still talk to B in real life or on any other forum, but if A is told to discommunicate B he cant speak to B anywhere.
as for getting people arrested for crimes they did not commit. [citation needed]. I doubt no much about them pre the scientology stuff so it is possible, I mean they were just a bunch of trolls before then.
Last time i saw them they had plenty of cake, although it was before the summer
Erm last time i checked anonymous didnt: *use copyright law to prevent any embaresing details being released about them *get its members to discomuniacte from others who disagree with their teaching/methods *get tax discounts for being a registerd church *break into federal offices *get people arrested for crimes they didn't commit *not have cake
Infact while anonymous may act like a bunch of twats (although they often use the slogan "one of us, isn't as dumb as all of us" or something like that to cover there asses) other than breaking the law they are nothing like Scientology.
Actually its just a deregulated economy that only works well in theory well that and the trickle down economy. capitalism works well in practice (or did until the idea that people could just invent money anyway)
In that case i think the term your looking for is socialist, in particular facist-socialists. where as you would be a liberal-conservative.
Perhaps the problem with the US is that its a country, the amount of power needed to run a country that big inevitably leads to a lot of pressure from special interest groups. There is also a huge discrepancy between how American's think of their federal government (something with limited power over the individual states, like the EU over its countries) and the reality (something which controls its states, like the UK gov over county councils). There is also the entire two party system problem and because you dont trust your main parties enough to not vote tamper, you wont even consider the solution (proportional representation over relevant areas), let alone will it ever be implemented, the 3rd party in a 2 party system here has won the popular vote a couple of times but not even come close to being in power.
But hey i should probably sort out my own shit (also a 2 party system, with both parties getting increasingly similar and power hungry, with plenty of corruption and an increasing amount of US style media manipulation) before i say anything.
Fundamentally a democracy (be it in a 'socialist' European form or a 'conservative' American form) is the best of a bad bunch of forms of government.
And then US is microsoft using its evil proprietary wares to crush any form of communism (even non-evil variants, like the smurfs!!!) . But where does the fascist part of all attempts at communism fit in? I mean linus is a bit of a control freak when it comes to what gets into the kernel, but he is unlikely to shoot you if you fork the kernel (try and break away).
I could be giving too much credit to the brittish,
Isn't that what got us into this mess?
For an explanation of European libratarians sudo apt-get install anarchy , the US is so far off the right end of the scale in terms of politics its pretty much pointless to compare politics. e.g even most conservatives here want obama to win!
In your minds, if company Z doesn't support Linux, they lose. If they do support linux, they lose even worse. They get screamed at for not releasing specs, not GPL'ing the source, not supporting a specific distribution, not supporting 64-bit... the list goes on.
Yeah we hate mathmatica, matlab and ID too? No we got burned by adobes proprietory nature and methods, just a year ago too so were not too kean on them right now. Additionally their implementation sucks
Now if you're going to take the time to respond to this, please answer me this: Why should company X spend the most time supporting a platform that has the least marketshare?
Linux folk see the problem being that software vendors don't support linux. The fact of the matter is Linux doesn't support ISV's.
If you want us to like you, your going to have to support our system, i doubt many mac users love game developers who ignore them either. As for spending the most time supporting us, well with a well implemented program thats not really true, ID games were all ported in a developers spare time IIRC, programs with lots of OS integration (chrome may take longer, but a well maintained code base can be ported fairly easily (google desklet, dashboard desklets, ID games, HL (without the rendering as that requires directX), etc)
There are a million different distro's with no standardization. You already have your market share working against you, and you realize that. What you don't seem to realize is that your platform is the hardest to develop for and support.
A common point against linux, but linux standard base says differently providing
standard libraries, a number of commands and utilities that extend the POSIX standard, the layout of the file system hierarchy, run levels, the printing system, including spoolers such as CUPS and tools like Foomatic and several extensions to the X Window System.
LSB is supported by novell(suse,opensuse,etc), redhat(RH,centos,fedora), Mandrakesoft and Debian(ubuntu,xandros) and id bet that slackware/gnetoo can handle RPMs too. Additionally the software API* for linux is more or less stable (atleast as stable as windows has been recently) that's why you can install binaries for software and if it was designed for it 2.6 kernel it will normally work most of the time. If you want to make use of our libraries this is not necessarily true but your still free to implement your own libraries or compile your binary with snapshots of free libraries (dependent on how the library is used).
You really should do something about this before you scream with a sense of entitlement that some company should spend time and money supporting your platform when it is not likely to be financially viable.
Entitlement? i dont feal entitled but I do want my voice to be heard as nobody is going to port to linux just for fun.
*Binaries dealing with the kernel directly have it more difficult, but if the source is avalible we will try our best to get it working (Even if its not strictly allowed, see cisco vpnc)
Erm why? The spec is out, and somebody like microsoft can easily reverse engineer flash if they want to. This is all assuming that they dont have access to the code itself (the source is probably known just like the windows source isnt actually kept under lock and key) its just unusable because if you look at it then implement the equivalent they can sue your ass, something like the GPL would still stop Microsoft from copying it while allowing opensource developers to port it to other platforms and its not like there's a shortage of licenses about they could use to protect patents etc. No the reason they wont open source it is simply because they don't want free ports for other mobile devices.
I think what id like to see is plugin switcher so i can use the low CPU opensource implementations where i can, and the sucky flash10 when i need to iplayer being my most used flash site.
there are 3 problems with your post 1) This is slashdot you have no gf 2) Why the fuck is your hypothetical gf even running IE, you should have switched her to firefox or chrome long ago! 3) You prefer a closed source shitty player to an open source (moonlight) shitty player
Your using it wrong! nspluginwrapper seams to work pretty well on most sites,randomly needs a reload and infrequently needs a restart of firefox. what version are you using? 0.9.91.5 on firefox 3(rv:1.9.0.3) seams bearable (i do use flashblock because i generally cant stand flash though)
Actually if Firefox would support 32 bit plug ins under Linux that would also solve the issue.
Good idea, but why bother when they can port flash to arm, why not x86_64?
Or the Distros could include 32bit Firefox be default. Both would solve the problem. And if you need Firefox to be 64bit you are surfing the wrong sites.
If you want suboptimal performance why not just go back to windows? I have a 64bit processor (it came with my laptop) I do not have 4GB of memory or edit photos but i dont see why i should accept sub optimal performance just to run a plugin, a plugin that seams to max out any version of my os anyway.
Flash 10 is better (ive been using the betas)*, i mean i still wouldn't touch it without flashblock (for performance reasons not security unfortunately) but its much better than 9.
*Hopefully with the flash 10 release websites will stop telling me to install flash
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bah, like they let anybody that intelligent waste time making laws.
what is their copyright enforcement. Surely iptables, perhaps getting an admin to use wireshark and send a few cease and desist emails, would be enough to stop 90% of filesharing, and no tools can stop the other 5%.
and nowhere will they mention that crashes are handled much better in IE7 than FF3 or 3.1
I may be an avid linux user but i have to give the IE guys credit for the tab isolated crashing. I'm not sure if it works due to aforementioned linux use, but i find it wierd that this is rarely mentioned as an IE feature, when it was 50% of chromes selling point.
hows that going, when i gave it a try last time it was too hard to get setup right (the delay needed setting manualy and was hard to judge as lag varied a bit), and seemed to use alot of CPU. Is it playable by joe blogs yet?
erm theres a difference between gtfo and discomuniacion in that 1 is asking person A to leave the other is asking person A to never speak to person B.
If A is freinds with B and A is told to GTFO, he can still talk to B in real life or on any other forum, but if A is told to discommunicate B he cant speak to B anywhere.
as for getting people arrested for crimes they did not commit. [citation needed]. I doubt no much about them pre the scientology stuff so it is possible, I mean they were just a bunch of trolls before then.
Last time i saw them they had plenty of cake, although it was before the summer
If i went into tourist information and asked for some information, they would presumable tell me what i wanted to know.
If i got 500 people to do the same thing it would not be a crime, they would probably just stop answering.
I think it started on the chans, the same place idiots who hack high profile accounts post the results, go. Many of them aint too smart
Erm last time i checked anonymous didnt:
*use copyright law to prevent any embaresing details being released about them
*get its members to discomuniacte from others who disagree with their teaching/methods
*get tax discounts for being a registerd church
*break into federal offices
*get people arrested for crimes they didn't commit
*not have cake
Infact while anonymous may act like a bunch of twats (although they often use the slogan "one of us, isn't as dumb as all of us" or something like that to cover there asses) other than breaking the law they are nothing like Scientology.
Actually its just a deregulated economy that only works well in theory well that and the trickle down economy. capitalism works well in practice (or did until the idea that people could just invent money anyway)
In that case i think the term your looking for is socialist, in particular facist-socialists. where as you would be a liberal-conservative.
Perhaps the problem with the US is that its a country, the amount of power needed to run a country that big inevitably leads to a lot of pressure from special interest groups. There is also a huge discrepancy between how American's think of their federal government (something with limited power over the individual states, like the EU over its countries) and the reality (something which controls its states, like the UK gov over county councils). There is also the entire two party system problem and because you dont trust your main parties enough to not vote tamper, you wont even consider the solution (proportional representation over relevant areas), let alone will it ever be implemented, the 3rd party in a 2 party system here has won the popular vote a couple of times but not even come close to being in power.
But hey i should probably sort out my own shit (also a 2 party system, with both parties getting increasingly similar and power hungry, with plenty of corruption and an increasing amount of US style media manipulation) before i say anything.
Fundamentally a democracy (be it in a 'socialist' European form or a 'conservative' American form) is the best of a bad bunch of forms of government.
And then US is microsoft using its evil proprietary wares to crush any form of communism (even non-evil variants, like the smurfs!!!) . But where does the fascist part of all attempts at communism fit in? I mean linus is a bit of a control freak when it comes to what gets into the kernel, but he is unlikely to shoot you if you fork the kernel (try and break away).
In summary this analogy really sucks!
whats wrong with this ? It runs on 64bit linux and office applications do not need 64bit.
We're all fucking twitter, well some of the 4 digits were around before me/us but the rest of us are.
m$ sucks0r, linux pwns, etc
I could be giving too much credit to the brittish,
Isn't that what got us into this mess?
For an explanation of European libratarians sudo apt-get install anarchy , the US is so far off the right end of the scale in terms of politics its pretty much pointless to compare politics. e.g even most conservatives here want obama to win!
Giuliani'd in the 1st reply And its sort of on topic, well played good sir, well played.
Must not feed trolls but
...But please, lets be realistic.
In your minds, if company Z doesn't support Linux, they lose. If they do support linux, they lose even worse. They get screamed at for not releasing specs, not GPL'ing the source, not supporting a specific distribution, not supporting 64-bit... the list goes on.
Yeah we hate mathmatica, matlab and ID too? No we got burned by adobes proprietory nature and methods, just a year ago too so were not too kean on them right now. Additionally their implementation sucks
Now if you're going to take the time to respond to this, please answer me this: Why should company X spend the most time supporting a platform that has the least marketshare?
Linux folk see the problem being that software vendors don't support linux. The fact of the matter is Linux doesn't support ISV's.
If you want us to like you, your going to have to support our system, i doubt many mac users love game developers who ignore them either. As for spending the most time supporting us, well with a well implemented program thats not really true, ID games were all ported in a developers spare time IIRC, programs with lots of OS integration (chrome may take longer, but a well maintained code base can be ported fairly easily (google desklet, dashboard desklets, ID games, HL (without the rendering as that requires directX), etc)
There are a million different distro's with no standardization. You already have your market share working against you, and you realize that. What you don't seem to realize is that your platform is the hardest to develop for and support.
A common point against linux, but linux standard base says differently providing
standard libraries, a number of commands and utilities that extend the POSIX standard, the layout of the file system hierarchy, run levels, the printing system, including spoolers such as CUPS and tools like Foomatic and several extensions to the X Window System.
LSB is supported by novell(suse,opensuse,etc), redhat(RH,centos,fedora), Mandrakesoft and Debian(ubuntu,xandros) and id bet that slackware/gnetoo can handle RPMs too.
Additionally the software API* for linux is more or less stable (atleast as stable as windows has been recently) that's why you can install binaries for software and if it was designed for it 2.6 kernel it will normally work most of the time. If you want to make use of our libraries this is not necessarily true but your still free to implement your own libraries or compile your binary with snapshots of free libraries (dependent on how the library is used).
You really should do something about this before you scream with a sense of entitlement that some company should spend time and money supporting your platform when it is not likely to be financially viable.
Entitlement? i dont feal entitled but I do want my voice to be heard as nobody is going to port to linux just for fun.
*Binaries dealing with the kernel directly have it more difficult, but if the source is avalible we will try our best to get it working (Even if its not strictly allowed, see cisco vpnc)
Erm why? The spec is out, and somebody like microsoft can easily reverse engineer flash if they want to. This is all assuming that they dont have access to the code itself (the source is probably known just like the windows source isnt actually kept under lock and key) its just unusable because if you look at it then implement the equivalent they can sue your ass, something like the GPL would still stop Microsoft from copying it while allowing opensource developers to port it to other platforms and its not like there's a shortage of licenses about they could use to protect patents etc.
No the reason they wont open source it is simply because they don't want free ports for other mobile devices.
I think what id like to see is plugin switcher so i can use the low CPU opensource implementations where i can, and the sucky flash10 when i need to iplayer being my most used flash site.
there are 3 problems with your post
1) This is slashdot you have no gf
2) Why the fuck is your hypothetical gf even running IE, you should have switched her to firefox or chrome long ago!
3) You prefer a closed source shitty player to an open source (moonlight) shitty player
IIRC they do but jobs wont ship it/pay for it.
Your using it wrong! nspluginwrapper seams to work pretty well on most sites ,randomly needs a reload and infrequently needs a restart of firefox. what version are you using?
0.9.91.5 on firefox 3(rv:1.9.0.3) seams bearable (i do use flashblock because i generally cant stand flash though)
Us nspluginwrapper.
nspluginwrapper is a workaround not a solution.
Actually if Firefox would support 32 bit plug ins under Linux that would also solve the issue.
Good idea, but why bother when they can port flash to arm, why not x86_64?
Or the Distros could include 32bit Firefox be default.
Both would solve the problem. And if you need Firefox to be 64bit you are surfing the wrong sites.
If you want suboptimal performance why not just go back to windows? I have a 64bit processor (it came with my laptop) I do not have 4GB of memory or edit photos but i dont see why i should accept sub optimal performance just to run a plugin, a plugin that seams to max out any version of my os anyway.
Flash 10 is better (ive been using the betas)*, i mean i still wouldn't touch it without flashblock (for performance reasons not security unfortunately) but its much better than 9.
*Hopefully with the flash 10 release websites will stop telling me to install flash
How about to run it naively on a 64bit system?
Why not use the interface and hook it to third party tools that provide similar functions outside of the filesystem?