What happened to all the people who made all those promises that this equipment would never be used for this purpose when they were looking to pass funding for making all this equipment? It seems to me they were all government officials and probably some still are. Does the term lieing through thier teeth have any meaning here? Oh and for the fellow who said cut the talk about the revolution; to do things the way you say would require that the American Public have some say in who there is to vote for not pick the lessor of two evils. Then it might stand a chance of working. Intill that happens it only leave certian options. The problem is there would be those that would consider receiving funding for a revoltion from the likes of Russa or Red China. Or maybe Laden himself. So yes if a revolution ever was to occur we would really have to be mindful of those who would try to gain from it personelly. That isn't anything new. Treating the American people has they are the terrorist is. You want to stop terror stop our government.
Whoe whatch your blood pressure there sport. Try walking softly and carry a really huge stick and when they least expect it take em in the knees. Gets thier attention every time.
I now understand why it is everyone uses forms as a place to post there veiws and treat things as one big joke. I apoligize for posting and most of all I apoligize for taken any thing here seriously. Now for all the English Majors who don't live in the Unided States you can now correct my spelling. I hope at least that point was clear enough not to be missunderstood. Yeah right!!!
Maybe your right about we don't have to break the law. Maybe our government will quit interpreting the law in such a way that we break it anyway you look at it also. I would agree with you about breaking the lawmakers by voting if you could do that. I mean it is suppose to be the way it works right? I'll remind you of what you typed if I may? One defination of insanity: "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result each time". Isn't that what voting is? Especially after the last election where it was taken to such great extent to prove to everyone that your vote, and or that act of voting doesn't mean anything? I agree with you about the certian party running for office. I also don't beleave our country would be best servered with the others. So where does that leave the voting process. Who really decided who we get to vote for. The people? I don't believe that for one minute. Now back to my point. Who's fault is all this. We the people because we let it happen. That includes myself by the way. So given the cercumstance as they really are what do you propose as a method of correcting this? As I have said to others there isn't any shame in resorting to violence to correct such an unjust situation, just alot off shame that that is the only avenue that has been left for one to do so to accomplish it. No I don't advocate using violence but whatelse is left. I mean really it did work in the past when our founding fathers was facing the same thing and I can't really believe anyone would shame them for it. If there be a better way I am all for it as long as it accomplishes getting America Back to being America! Somethings never change no matter how insane one feels about it!
I suppose that we belief the constition gives us the right to do just that doesn't enter in on anything. We do believe our way is best you know. Of course you do because you belive your way is best so it is only natural that you know this. Now you might be surprised to know that there is some of us here that actually agree with you that we don't have the right to force our beliefs onto you any more then you do with your own beliefs and forcing them on any one else. I am not saying what you think I am saying here. My belief is our government is wrong in certian things and the fault of that is because the public as a whole has let our government do as they please to include doing it to us. Our constitution protects us from that. or it did at one time. We the public have let them erode the meaning of that document to the point of even letting them write laws protecting themselve from accountabilty. I guess I am in agreement with you more then I care to say but only about certian things. You do prove my point though. Beliefs from another country should not control others in another country. Then again both side of that would have to aquire common sense in order to work right.
Good point but doesn't our constitution give us those rights that he is against? Now is the problem with this with him and his beliefs or with the American public letting our own government get away with what they do because some one like him believes what he does. Now was the constitution given to us because it was needed to protect us from some one else beliefs? I think so, but not just from foreign beliefs but from beliefs from with in our own country that could be forced upon us by the treats of punishment. I don't really need to read, not that it is a bad thing to do mind you, about someone else beleifs to have a little common sence about things. We have protected rights against our government doing some of the things they do and no one holds them accountable to that to the point every one forgets that we have them. Of course we have let them erode those rights to the point of letting them right laws protecting themselves from accountabilty. Shame on us! We the people have done this no one else and thats sad, because its we the people who are going to have to reverse it even though that means maybe breaking the law to do so. Thats the integratiy that I was referring to that out founding fathers had and that we don't have. I am all for everyone including Qtub having thier own beliefs but I am not in agreement with whats going on today. Now what is there to do about it? I know that I will probably catch alot of slack from this and thats okay maybe something else will come from it all. Something good I hope like everyone taking thier blinders of and seeing things at the most basic level and doing something about. Catch Ya Later!
Very good response to all of this. I wish you would expand it in the area of what can be done about it.Everyone seems to be waitung for some one else to do something cuz they don't want the three hots and a cot thats held over everyones heads. Makes you wonder what it would be like if our founding fathers felt this same way. I am sure they were facing much worse.
Isn't it great how Americans sit back and let the government do the work for the bad guys of this world. What do the "worlds baddest guys" hate the most about America? Out Constitution. What do they do to erode it. Nothing, except get our own government to do it for them. Then our government instructs us to belive we are safer from all these bad guys and if we don't go with the program they will give us someplace to stay with tree hots and a cot to learn our place. I guess we have to move to a foriegn country and be treated this way in order to get some goodie two shoe organization to notice and put pressure on the the government to stop treating thier people this way cuz its wrong. There isn't any common sense in this world anymore. Boy I wish thier were still people out there with the integrity of Washington, Reveere, Franklin, oh well back to Star Trek.
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What happened to all the people who made all those promises that this equipment would never be used for this purpose when they were looking to pass funding for making all this equipment? It seems to me they were all government officials and probably some still are. Does the term lieing through thier teeth have any meaning here? Oh and for the fellow who said cut the talk about the revolution; to do things the way you say would require that the American Public have some say in who there is to vote for not pick the lessor of two evils. Then it might stand a chance of working. Intill that happens it only leave certian options. The problem is there would be those that would consider receiving funding for a revoltion from the likes of Russa or Red China. Or maybe Laden himself. So yes if a revolution ever was to occur we would really have to be mindful of those who would try to gain from it personelly. That isn't anything new. Treating the American people has they are the terrorist is. You want to stop terror stop our government.
Whoe whatch your blood pressure there sport. Try walking softly and carry a really huge stick and when they least expect it take em in the knees. Gets thier attention every time.
You should of been around to tell George Washington thet!
America is free every has just forgotten that the constitution was written to protect us from this happening be it from foriegn or domestic invasion.
Maybe but the same ones who determine the use of martial law are the same ones who determine special cercumstances.
Not an American. Then why are you posting?
I now understand why it is everyone uses forms as a place to post there veiws and treat things as one big joke. I apoligize for posting and most of all I apoligize for taken any thing here seriously. Now for all the English Majors who don't live in the Unided States you can now correct my spelling. I hope at least that point was clear enough not to be missunderstood. Yeah right!!!
Maybe your right about we don't have to break the law. Maybe our government will quit interpreting the law in such a way that we break it anyway you look at it also. I would agree with you about breaking the lawmakers by voting if you could do that. I mean it is suppose to be the way it works right? I'll remind you of what you typed if I may? One defination of insanity: "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result each time". Isn't that what voting is? Especially after the last election where it was taken to such great extent to prove to everyone that your vote, and or that act of voting doesn't mean anything? I agree with you about the certian party running for office. I also don't beleave our country would be best servered with the others. So where does that leave the voting process. Who really decided who we get to vote for. The people? I don't believe that for one minute. Now back to my point. Who's fault is all this. We the people because we let it happen. That includes myself by the way. So given the cercumstance as they really are what do you propose as a method of correcting this? As I have said to others there isn't any shame in resorting to violence to correct such an unjust situation, just alot off shame that that is the only avenue that has been left for one to do so to accomplish it. No I don't advocate using violence but whatelse is left. I mean really it did work in the past when our founding fathers was facing the same thing and I can't really believe anyone would shame them for it. If there be a better way I am all for it as long as it accomplishes getting America Back to being America! Somethings never change no matter how insane one feels about it!
I am glad you posted this. It proves my point so well!
I suppose that we belief the constition gives us the right to do just that doesn't enter in on anything. We do believe our way is best you know. Of course you do because you belive your way is best so it is only natural that you know this. Now you might be surprised to know that there is some of us here that actually agree with you that we don't have the right to force our beliefs onto you any more then you do with your own beliefs and forcing them on any one else. I am not saying what you think I am saying here. My belief is our government is wrong in certian things and the fault of that is because the public as a whole has let our government do as they please to include doing it to us. Our constitution protects us from that. or it did at one time. We the public have let them erode the meaning of that document to the point of even letting them write laws protecting themselve from accountabilty. I guess I am in agreement with you more then I care to say but only about certian things. You do prove my point though. Beliefs from another country should not control others in another country. Then again both side of that would have to aquire common sense in order to work right.
Good point but doesn't our constitution give us those rights that he is against? Now is the problem with this with him and his beliefs or with the American public letting our own government get away with what they do because some one like him believes what he does. Now was the constitution given to us because it was needed to protect us from some one else beliefs? I think so, but not just from foreign beliefs but from beliefs from with in our own country that could be forced upon us by the treats of punishment. I don't really need to read, not that it is a bad thing to do mind you, about someone else beleifs to have a little common sence about things. We have protected rights against our government doing some of the things they do and no one holds them accountable to that to the point every one forgets that we have them. Of course we have let them erode those rights to the point of letting them right laws protecting themselves from accountabilty. Shame on us! We the people have done this no one else and thats sad, because its we the people who are going to have to reverse it even though that means maybe breaking the law to do so. Thats the integratiy that I was referring to that out founding fathers had and that we don't have. I am all for everyone including Qtub having thier own beliefs but I am not in agreement with whats going on today. Now what is there to do about it? I know that I will probably catch alot of slack from this and thats okay maybe something else will come from it all. Something good I hope like everyone taking thier blinders of and seeing things at the most basic level and doing something about. Catch Ya Later!
Very good response to all of this. I wish you would expand it in the area of what can be done about it.Everyone seems to be waitung for some one else to do something cuz they don't want the three hots and a cot thats held over everyones heads. Makes you wonder what it would be like if our founding fathers felt this same way. I am sure they were facing much worse.
Isn't it great how Americans sit back and let the government do the work for the bad guys of this world. What do the "worlds baddest guys" hate the most about America? Out Constitution. What do they do to erode it. Nothing, except get our own government to do it for them. Then our government instructs us to belive we are safer from all these bad guys and if we don't go with the program they will give us someplace to stay with tree hots and a cot to learn our place. I guess we have to move to a foriegn country and be treated this way in order to get some goodie two shoe organization to notice and put pressure on the the government to stop treating thier people this way cuz its wrong. There isn't any common sense in this world anymore. Boy I wish thier were still people out there with the integrity of Washington, Reveere, Franklin, oh well back to Star Trek.