well thanks for attacking a neutral position. I never implied one to be right over the other. and both sides have some evidence to support themselves, history has yet to contradict ID, and it has yet to definitively contradict evolution. sure you could be a naive narrow-minded person and say that taking ID as a theory is akin to taking an orangutan and pulling a universe out of it's butt, but then, we aren't so stupid as to believe something like that. I never implied or said that ID or evolution is right, I only say that both deserve discussion. surely you can agree to that?
I'm not super well versed in both sides arguments but I know what both sides are saying, I'm not saying that ID has a testable hypothesis, because I don't know if they do or not, but I do know that no scientist is going to prove evolution for a fact, cause that would require them to replicate the universe, no? in order to make something out of nothing and get life out of non-living material, would they not have to create a universe? or at least a living cell from a non living mass of particles?
Now ID on the other hand doesn't really need to be tested, cause if it's true, then history would match up with it?(maybe?) I know they claim to find halfway humans that are monkey like and all that, but how do they know it wasn't just a really old person that was hunched over all the time? or that it was a species that went extinct, vs the halfway point between humans and monkeys? I'm not saying either side is right or wrong, but I just think that neither side has thought their argument enough. There's just not enough information to teach evolution as fact. But it is being taught as fact, and ID, while you say isn't a scientific theory, has been around twice as long as evolutionary theory, so you can't be so easy to discredit it.
ok, so if ID isn't a scientific theory(I'm by no means implying a diety, just some sort of ordered intellegence that started something), then how did life start?
you do know you can just burn a cd of your itunes songs and re import the cd as MP3 right? sure it wastes a cd, but in the scheme of things it's not that much money.
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well thanks for attacking a neutral position. I never implied one to be right over the other.
and both sides have some evidence to support themselves, history has yet to contradict ID, and it has yet to definitively contradict evolution. sure you could be a naive narrow-minded person and say that taking ID as a theory is akin to taking an orangutan and pulling a universe out of it's butt, but then, we aren't so stupid as to believe something like that. I never implied or said that ID or evolution is right, I only say that both deserve discussion. surely you can agree to that?
I'm not super well versed in both sides arguments but I know what both sides are saying, I'm not saying that ID has a testable hypothesis, because I don't know if they do or not, but I do know that no scientist is going to prove evolution for a fact, cause that would require them to replicate the universe, no? in order to make something out of nothing and get life out of non-living material, would they not have to create a universe? or at least a living cell from a non living mass of particles?
Now ID on the other hand doesn't really need to be tested, cause if it's true, then history would match up with it?(maybe?) I know they claim to find halfway humans that are monkey like and all that, but how do they know it wasn't just a really old person that was hunched over all the time? or that it was a species that went extinct, vs the halfway point between humans and monkeys? I'm not saying either side is right or wrong, but I just think that neither side has thought their argument enough. There's just not enough information to teach evolution as fact. But it is being taught as fact, and ID, while you say isn't a scientific theory, has been around twice as long as evolutionary theory, so you can't be so easy to discredit it.
not to be rude, but how much have you studied both sides of this argument?
then so is saying something came from nothing. right?
ok, so if ID isn't a scientific theory(I'm by no means implying a diety, just some sort of ordered intellegence that started something), then how did life start?
well there you have it, CD-RW, sure it's not as convenient as software, but at least you won't have apple sending you a cease and desist note.
you do know you can just burn a cd of your itunes songs and re import the cd as MP3 right? sure it wastes a cd, but in the scheme of things it's not that much money.