I've been running one of these for about a year now. Multiple domains, running oracle, sybase, web, and other apps. Some of them all on the same domain.
While there are many good things with this fridge, there are many more poor things. Most of these stem from SUN's sales documents. Such as being able to upgrade hardware on a running domain. It is possible in very specific circumstances. I can't do it on my system, thanks to the dual fibre, and I was also unable to do it on the test machine at SUN. Of course, as most of you would know, once management get an idea in their head, no amout of technical details can persuade them it's not possible. Not that I'm at all bitter.
Personaly I don't mind the E10K. I'd prefer having several smaller boxes clustered. Giving much more robustness and flexability than the E10K does. But then, I don't get to goto lunch with the sales guys that often.....
Quigwbow
Correct me if I'm wrong. I read this somewhere years ago. The reasoning behind large boxes was that tax is charged on the percentage of software (cd, disks etc) contained within the box. So if the game is released within a jewel case, there's 100% of the total price taxed. If it's sent in a largly empty box, well... 10 % is taxed..... 1% over 1 million sales makes that extra size seem reasonable to managements bottom line..... IIRC this was based on US markets. Enjoy, Q.
When I read this, I thought you were joking. Several points I'll comment on: "... this way we could weed out those with problems... " Yup, anyone with a problem, anyone who does not fit within a finite set called 'normal' is removed from society. That's a great method of giving them the opportunity to fit into society. This is also assuming that the psychologists know what is normal. Which I doubt. All the psych texts I've read (and that's approx 70 - 80) state in excruciating detail how people are mentally ill. Not one even attempts to state what normal is...
"...Any children found to have problems could quietly be put onto psychiatric drugs..." Yup, again, where is the solution in this? Drugs, in some circumstances would be a solution. In most it would just be the easiest way to suppress the symptoms. Where is the attempt to solve the problem? Or do we just treat them as broken goods and throw them away? Shhh... noone needs to know what happens to the bad ones.
"...unless something is done we are going to see yet more Columbine type incidents..." There are many other things that can be done, rather than hide the problem. 1. Any child that commits a crime, the parents get tried for the crime as well. This, tho extreme, will at least teach the parents to take an active interest in what their kids do. 2. You need a licence to drive a car. Yet get paid by welfare to have kids (at least in Australia). Why not treat it like a job and require qualifications before having kids. 3. Change who is at fault. Is the child the cause? The Media for 'sensationalising' similar events? The parents for raising their children the way they have? The society for seemingly accepting what happens and not offering good solutions?
Personally, I think each individual needs to accept responsibility for their own actions. This is not happening as the media points fingers at the school, school at society, parents at teachers and teachers at the media. If each individual (and because of this, group) took full responsibility they would, at the very least, attempt to solve the problem rather than expect someone else to.
Mental illness is a problem. Many people are living what I consider a less than average life because of it. Now I accept that drugs help, but they are not what I consider a viable solution. They don't 'cure' the illness, they only hide the symptoms. As soon as you take away the drug, along comes the problem again. I've seen it oftern, where somone is on anti-depressants, feels good enough to decide they don't need the drugs, then attempt suicide after the drugs wear off. What I beleive needs to be done is teach the psychologists to help people effectivly. 5 years in therapy is _NOT_ acceptable. Brief therapy, NLP, Hypnosis are some of the more effective methods of therapy in term of change. Many times these methods have been effective cures when more popular methods continued to fail. Of course, only a small number of therapists actually know of other methods of therapy other than Freud. Why would they want to? I mean, a patient for 5 years is steady income. What other fields of expertese do you get paid _NOT_ to get results... Within IT, you'd be out of a job if you took 5 years to acheive the result the client wants.... Maybe pay the shrink when the wanted change occurs, that would give them incentive. Use the drug (if needed) till the person is stable. Then get them _good_ help to allow them to be stable without the drug. I've read very emotive posts here about how drugs help the posters. That is great, and what would you do with all the money you spend on drugs if you didn't have to buy drugs any more? Why not go even further, would you like to be better than average, better than 'not sad'? Get a drug, then get them good help to get them off a drug. It is possible. Many Many others have done it. Of course then doctors have no interest in people being well... They don't get paid..... There are better ways than the way it's done now. Quigybow
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I've been running one of these for about a year now. Multiple domains, running oracle, sybase, web, and other apps. Some of them all on the same domain. While there are many good things with this fridge, there are many more poor things. Most of these stem from SUN's sales documents. Such as being able to upgrade hardware on a running domain. It is possible in very specific circumstances. I can't do it on my system, thanks to the dual fibre, and I was also unable to do it on the test machine at SUN. Of course, as most of you would know, once management get an idea in their head, no amout of technical details can persuade them it's not possible. Not that I'm at all bitter. Personaly I don't mind the E10K. I'd prefer having several smaller boxes clustered. Giving much more robustness and flexability than the E10K does. But then, I don't get to goto lunch with the sales guys that often..... Quigwbow
Correct me if I'm wrong. I read this somewhere years ago. The reasoning behind large boxes was that tax is charged on the percentage of software (cd, disks etc) contained within the box. So if the game is released within a jewel case, there's 100% of the total price taxed. If it's sent in a largly empty box, well ... 10 % is taxed..... 1% over 1 million sales makes that extra size seem reasonable to managements bottom line..... IIRC this was based on US markets. Enjoy, Q.
When I read this, I thought you were joking.
..." ... noone needs to know what happens to the bad ones.
..."
Several points I'll comment on:
"... this way we could weed out those with problems... "
Yup, anyone with a problem, anyone who does not fit within a finite set called 'normal' is removed from society. That's a great method of giving them the opportunity to fit into society. This is also assuming that the psychologists know what is normal. Which I doubt. All the psych texts I've read (and that's approx 70 - 80) state in excruciating detail how people are mentally ill. Not one even attempts to state what normal is...
"...Any children found to have problems could quietly be put onto psychiatric drugs
Yup, again, where is the solution in this? Drugs, in some circumstances would be a solution. In most it would just be the easiest way to suppress the symptoms. Where is the attempt to solve the problem? Or do we just treat them as broken goods and throw them away? Shhh
"...unless something is done we are going to see yet more Columbine type incidents
There are many other things that can be done, rather than hide the problem.
1. Any child that commits a crime, the parents get tried for the crime as well. This, tho extreme, will at least teach the parents to take an active interest in what their kids do.
2. You need a licence to drive a car. Yet get paid by welfare to have kids (at least in Australia). Why not treat it like a job and require qualifications before having kids.
3. Change who is at fault. Is the child the cause? The Media for 'sensationalising' similar events? The parents for raising their children the way they have? The society for seemingly accepting what happens and not offering good solutions?
Personally, I think each individual needs to accept responsibility for their own actions. This is not happening as the media points fingers at the school, school at society, parents at teachers and teachers at the media. If each individual (and because of this, group) took full responsibility they would, at the very least, attempt to solve the problem rather than expect someone else to.
Q.
Mental illness is a problem. Many people are living what I consider a less than average life because of it. Now I accept that drugs help, but they are not what I consider a viable solution. They don't 'cure' the illness, they only hide the symptoms. As soon as you take away the drug, along comes the problem again. I've seen it oftern, where somone is on anti-depressants, feels good enough to decide they don't need the drugs, then attempt suicide after the drugs wear off. What I beleive needs to be done is teach the psychologists to help people effectivly. 5 years in therapy is _NOT_ acceptable. Brief therapy, NLP, Hypnosis are some of the more effective methods of therapy in term of change. Many times these methods have been effective cures when more popular methods continued to fail. Of course, only a small number of therapists actually know of other methods of therapy other than Freud. Why would they want to? I mean, a patient for 5 years is steady income. What other fields of expertese do you get paid _NOT_ to get results... Within IT, you'd be out of a job if you took 5 years to acheive the result the client wants.... Maybe pay the shrink when the wanted change occurs, that would give them incentive. Use the drug (if needed) till the person is stable. Then get them _good_ help to allow them to be stable without the drug. I've read very emotive posts here about how drugs help the posters. That is great, and what would you do with all the money you spend on drugs if you didn't have to buy drugs any more? Why not go even further, would you like to be better than average, better than 'not sad'? Get a drug, then get them good help to get them off a drug. It is possible. Many Many others have done it. Of course then doctors have no interest in people being well ... They don't get paid ..... There are better ways than the way it's done now. Quigybow