And I'm just saying that Netscape's Dialup compression gives me Web browsing comparable to my home 750k DSL connection. Real world. I've said that several times, but for whatever reason it's not sinking in.
That's entirely possible if the 28.8 was not using compression, and the 14.4 was. A 14.4 has an effective speed of ~70 kbit/s using the built-in compression.
You shouldn't just blindly look at the numbers and assume 28.8 is faster than 14.4. Dig deeper troll8901.
>>>The free market is a surprisingly direct form of democracy.
Yes it is. Every dollar you hand-over is a ballot. If you like Comcast, you give them ~60 votes each month. If you don't like Comcast, you stop and give the votes to someone else (like Dish). If people would just wake-up and realize the power they hold with their dollars/votes, they'd stop feeling so victimized.
Example: I used to have Cingular cellphone service at $10 a month, but suddenly they discontinued that plan and raised it to $30. I told them "screw off" and canceled the service. Later I joined VirginMobile which only costs 20 cent per minute (about $4 a month with my habits). Much much better.
The dollar is your vote. You have the power to reward good companies or drive bad companies into bankruptcy. It's direct democracy.
I'd rather spend my time talking to someone who takes things seriously and doesn't twist my words to misrepresent my statements. It's rude to do that to other people.
>>>Saying "why can't people just accept it" makes you a misogynist.
No it makes me a person who recognizes dogs are not hyenas, IBMs are not Macs, and men are not women. They are different. YOU might want to stop being so defensive, and start developing listening skills so you can HEAR what people are saying to you. (How ironic - I hear a lot of women say they same about men.) I'm not a woman-hater simply because I hold an opinion different from yours. Learn to be more open-minded instead of attacking.
>>>here are definite biological differences between men and women
If there are biological differences, then there would also be pleasure differences (what each sex enjoys). After all, we have different hormones flowing through our bodies and hormones affect emotions (such as bonding to a newborn baby). We're not going to have the same likes/dislikes.
But seriously I don't understand people who cheat. Saying "no" is not that difficult, especially when you already have a commitment to your wife or husband. Perhaps people just never learned impulse control (which is why the average American carries $10,000 credit card debt). They don't know How to say no.
My college does have an engineering management degree..... unfortunately it didn't exist back when my friend Lynn was studying else she might have stayed with engineering.
Penn State has something similar they call "Information Science & Technology College" which they just added a few years ago. It involves using technology in a more people-oriented approach (i.e. training and management) rather than strict design orientation.
Thanks for your support, but unfortunately I was modded to 0. I can't imagine why? I simply shared my observation. Here it is again:
You listed one person, so I'm going to list one person too. Why would my college friend Lynn, even though she had better grades than me, decide to completely drop-out of engineering? Probably because she wasn't enjoying the career. Probably because she was less interested in things than working with people.
You may deny it, but there are a LOT of women like Lynn out there... simply put: They don't like it. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. I don't consider my friend a "failure" simply because she dropped engineering. That's her life; her choice.
I had a female friend in freshman engineering who fits your description. She followed engineering because that's what her dad did, and also because she was talented in that area. However by sophomore year it was obvious she didn't belong. She was getting grades better than I was, but she had lost interest in engineering and stopped coming to class.
She switched to Premed, because she was more people-oriented. Which is fine. Some feminists would probably label her a "failure" but I never will. If she didn't enjoy engineering, so be it. It's her life.
So why is no one writing articles about the "gender gap" in the Health & Human Development field? ("Only 10% of men pursue a degree in this field.") Isn't that just as important as the female shortage in CS or engineering?
You listed one person, so I'm going to list one person too. Why would my college friend Lynn, even though she had better grades than me, decide to completely drop-out of engineering? Probably because she wasn't enjoying the career. Probably because she was less interested in things than working with people.
You may deny it, but there are a LOT of women like Lynn out there... simply put: They don't like it. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
I think you hit the nail squarely. Women are afraid to admit differences exist, because they think men will use it to justify separation of the sexes. (And given history that's a justifiable concern.)
However I can't help noticing how many women "yawn" when I start discussing nerdy subjects like science or computers. Clearly there's a disconnect there. A difference in interests.
I disagree. I disagree with the notion that computer science is more important (higher pay) than the care of human beings, and I think people should be just as concerned to know why few men enter the HHD field.
I don't know why people hate stereotypes. My family comes from Germany. If you said, "Well most Germans are white or pinkish in color so he probably is too," that is a stereotype.
It also happens to be correct.
It's through making stereotypes that we simplify our world and make it easier to understand; such as F=ma. No that particular stereotype doesn't work in every specific case, but it works 99% of the time so we find that stereotype useful. Similarly my observation that most (not all) people in the Health & Human Development major are women is a useful stereotype. And my question "why?" is also useful.
On the contrary, I love women a great deal. As often as possible (if they allow me). But one thing I will never do is insult them ("putz"), because I'm more mature than that. YOU might want to try being more mature too instead of being a misandrist.
STRAWMAN ARGUMENT:
I never said women are "only" interested in pink-collar fields... please stop putting words into my mouth I did not say. I said that when you peer into the Health & Human Development classes, they are dominated by 80-90% women. And similarly engineering is dominated by 80-90% men. At no time did I use the term "only". It does not apply to either major.
Instead I'd like an answer of why the HHD major only has ~10% men. Are men being suppressed by the female gender? Or is there some other mechanism at work? I suspect it's lack of interest by men in that career; similarly I suspect there's a general lack of interest by women in engineering. Making this observation does NOT make me a misogynist.
You listed one person, so I'm going to list one person too. Why would my college friend Lynn, even though she had better grades than me, decide to completely drop-out of engineering? Probably because she wasn't enjoying the career. Probably because she was less interested in things than working with people.
You may deny it, but there are a LOT of women like Lynn out there... which is why so few enter science or engineering. Simply put: They don't like it.
So why is noone writing articles about the "gender gap" in the Health & Human Development field? ("Only 5% of men pursue a degree in this field.") This isn't about achieving equality, but about pushing the female agenda.
I had a female friend in freshman engineering who fits your description. She followed engineering because that's what her dad did, and also because she was talented in that area. However by sophomore year it was obvious she didn't belong. She was getting good grades, but she had lost interest in engineering and stopped coming to class.
I don't know what she's doing now, but knowing her personality she probably went with Health or possibly Premed, because she was more people-oriented.
What I don't understand is why these anti-sexist persons are sooooo concerned about lack of women in science. Why do I not hear anybody crying out, "There are only 2 men for every 40 women in the Health & Human Development Major!" I guess we men don't matter. How sexist.;-)
Yep. Radio and television stations sell people. "We will give you 3 million people watching your ads during Heroes this spring." They draw us in using the bait (free music/dramas). Which is fine with me, because I enjoy the bait. It's entertaining and better than staring at a wall after work.
So... V.44 dialup is still faster for websurfing than using a sucky 128k connection. The images do look like crap due to the extreme compression, but at least I wouldn't have Tennessee College police looking over my shoulder.
Yes true, but we're specifically discussing a Tennessee college where you are NOT allowed to do file downloading. IF I were stuck in that situation of a limited-access 128k network with file downloads blocked, I'd rather use my Netscape dialup which loads webpages in about 5 seconds (almost as fast as my DSL).
BTW:
I wrote the V.44 portion of that wikipedia entry. Thanks for the self-reference.:-)
The OP echoed my own thoughts (geeks scaring off the girls), but the "real" reason is because women are cool and computer science is not.;-) They simply aren't attracted to that type of work. And there's nothing wrong with that.
You ever wander past the Health & Human Development part of your college?
It's like an engineering class in reverse - 40 women; 2 guys. (I knew I picked the wrong major.) Men and women are not that same. Men migrate towards "things" and women migrate towards "humans", each dominating their respective engineering & health majors. They don't think the same and they have different interests. Why can't people just accept that?
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And I'm just saying that Netscape's Dialup compression gives me Web browsing comparable to my home 750k DSL connection. Real world. I've said that several times, but for whatever reason it's not sinking in.
That's entirely possible if the 28.8 was not using compression, and the 14.4 was. A 14.4 has an effective speed of ~70 kbit/s using the built-in compression.
You shouldn't just blindly look at the numbers and assume 28.8 is faster than 14.4. Dig deeper troll8901.
That make sense, but when I change the subject to music or movies, then the women suddenly pay attention. So it's not me. It's the subject.
>>>The free market is a surprisingly direct form of democracy.
Yes it is. Every dollar you hand-over is a ballot. If you like Comcast, you give them ~60 votes each month. If you don't like Comcast, you stop and give the votes to someone else (like Dish). If people would just wake-up and realize the power they hold with their dollars/votes, they'd stop feeling so victimized.
Example: I used to have Cingular cellphone service at $10 a month, but suddenly they discontinued that plan and raised it to $30. I told them "screw off" and canceled the service. Later I joined VirginMobile which only costs 20 cent per minute (about $4 a month with my habits). Much much better.
The dollar is your vote.
You have the power to reward good companies
or drive bad companies into bankruptcy.
It's direct democracy.
>>>It's sarcasm
I'd rather spend my time talking to someone who takes things seriously and doesn't twist my words to misrepresent my statements. It's rude to do that to other people.
>>>Saying "why can't people just accept it" makes you a misogynist.
No it makes me a person who recognizes dogs are not hyenas, IBMs are not Macs, and men are not women. They are different. YOU might want to stop being so defensive, and start developing listening skills so you can HEAR what people are saying to you. (How ironic - I hear a lot of women say they same about men.) I'm not a woman-hater simply because I hold an opinion different from yours. Learn to be more open-minded instead of attacking.
Learn to be more like Barack Obama.
>>>here are definite biological differences between men and women
If there are biological differences, then there would also be pleasure differences (what each sex enjoys). After all, we have different hormones flowing through our bodies and hormones affect emotions (such as bonding to a newborn baby). We're not going to have the same likes/dislikes.
I would never cheat on my wife.
I'd divorce her first.
(ducking a spitball)
But seriously I don't understand people who cheat. Saying "no" is not that difficult, especially when you already have a commitment to your wife or husband. Perhaps people just never learned impulse control (which is why the average American carries $10,000 credit card debt). They don't know How to say no.
My college does have an engineering management degree..... unfortunately it didn't exist back when my friend Lynn was studying else she might have stayed with engineering.
Penn State has something similar they call "Information Science & Technology College" which they just added a few years ago. It involves using technology in a more people-oriented approach (i.e. training and management) rather than strict design orientation.
Thanks for your support, but unfortunately I was modded to 0. I can't imagine why? I simply shared my observation. Here it is again:
You listed one person, so I'm going to list one person too. Why would my college friend Lynn, even though she had better grades than me, decide to completely drop-out of engineering? Probably because she wasn't enjoying the career. Probably because she was less interested in things than working with people.
You may deny it, but there are a LOT of women like Lynn out there... simply put: They don't like it. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. I don't consider my friend a "failure" simply because she dropped engineering. That's her life; her choice.
Excellent point.
I had a female friend in freshman engineering who fits your description. She followed engineering because that's what her dad did, and also because she was talented in that area. However by sophomore year it was obvious she didn't belong. She was getting grades better than I was, but she had lost interest in engineering and stopped coming to class.
She switched to Premed, because she was more people-oriented. Which is fine. Some feminists would probably label her a "failure" but I never will. If she didn't enjoy engineering, so be it. It's her life.
So why is no one writing articles about the "gender gap" in the Health & Human Development field? ("Only 10% of men pursue a degree in this field.") Isn't that just as important as the female shortage in CS or engineering?
You listed one person, so I'm going to list one person too. Why would my college friend Lynn, even though she had better grades than me, decide to completely drop-out of engineering? Probably because she wasn't enjoying the career. Probably because she was less interested in things than working with people.
You may deny it, but there are a LOT of women like Lynn out there... simply put: They don't like it. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
>>>I'd say about half the women that I know went to college looking to find a husband, not to make money.
What a coincidence. This is the reason I went BACK to college... to find a wife. I'm sick of the whole bar scene. ;-)
>>>Given choice, I would hang out with my wife and our child 24/7.
Quoted for truth. I'd be happy to stay home and let the woman go earn the money. I have little interest in my job.
I think you hit the nail squarely. Women are afraid to admit differences exist, because they think men will use it to justify separation of the sexes. (And given history that's a justifiable concern.)
However I can't help noticing how many women "yawn" when I start discussing nerdy subjects like science or computers. Clearly there's a disconnect there. A difference in interests.
I disagree. I disagree with the notion that computer science is more important (higher pay) than the care of human beings, and I think people should be just as concerned to know why few men enter the HHD field.
Yes I'm serious.
I don't know why people hate stereotypes. My family comes from Germany. If you said, "Well most Germans are white or pinkish in color so he probably is too," that is a stereotype.
It also happens to be correct.
It's through making stereotypes that we simplify our world and make it easier to understand; such as F=ma. No that particular stereotype doesn't work in every specific case, but it works 99% of the time so we find that stereotype useful. Similarly my observation that most (not all) people in the Health & Human Development major are women is a useful stereotype. And my question "why?" is also useful.
>>>You're a misogynistic putz
On the contrary, I love women a great deal. As often as possible (if they allow me). But one thing I will never do is insult them ("putz"), because I'm more mature than that. YOU might want to try being more mature too instead of being a misandrist.
STRAWMAN ARGUMENT:
I never said women are "only" interested in pink-collar fields... please stop putting words into my mouth I did not say. I said that when you peer into the Health & Human Development classes, they are dominated by 80-90% women. And similarly engineering is dominated by 80-90% men. At no time did I use the term "only". It does not apply to either major.
Instead I'd like an answer of why the HHD major only has ~10% men. Are men being suppressed by the female gender? Or is there some other mechanism at work? I suspect it's lack of interest by men in that career; similarly I suspect there's a general lack of interest by women in engineering. Making this observation does NOT make me a misogynist.
You listed one person, so I'm going to list one person too. Why would my college friend Lynn, even though she had better grades than me, decide to completely drop-out of engineering? Probably because she wasn't enjoying the career. Probably because she was less interested in things than working with people.
You may deny it, but there are a LOT of women like Lynn out there... which is why so few enter science or engineering. Simply put: They don't like it.
So why is noone writing articles about the "gender gap" in the Health & Human Development field? ("Only 5% of men pursue a degree in this field.") This isn't about achieving equality, but about pushing the female agenda.
Excellent point.
I had a female friend in freshman engineering who fits your description. She followed engineering because that's what her dad did, and also because she was talented in that area. However by sophomore year it was obvious she didn't belong. She was getting good grades, but she had lost interest in engineering and stopped coming to class.
I don't know what she's doing now, but knowing her personality she probably went with Health or possibly Premed, because she was more people-oriented.
What I don't understand is why these anti-sexist persons are sooooo concerned about lack of women in science. Why do I not hear anybody crying out, "There are only 2 men for every 40 women in the Health & Human Development Major!" I guess we men don't matter. How sexist. ;-)
Yep. Radio and television stations sell people. "We will give you 3 million people watching your ads during Heroes this spring." They draw us in using the bait (free music/dramas). Which is fine with me, because I enjoy the bait. It's entertaining and better than staring at a wall after work.
So... V.44 dialup is still faster for websurfing than using a sucky 128k connection. The images do look like crap due to the extreme compression, but at least I wouldn't have Tennessee College police looking over my shoulder.
>>>with any file that are worth downloading
Yes true, but we're specifically discussing a Tennessee college where you are NOT allowed to do file downloading. IF I were stuck in that situation of a limited-access 128k network with file downloads blocked, I'd rather use my Netscape dialup which loads webpages in about 5 seconds (almost as fast as my DSL).
BTW:
I wrote the V.44 portion of that wikipedia entry. Thanks for the self-reference. :-)
The OP echoed my own thoughts (geeks scaring off the girls), but the "real" reason is because women are cool and computer science is not. ;-) They simply aren't attracted to that type of work. And there's nothing wrong with that.
You ever wander past the Health & Human Development part of your college?
It's like an engineering class in reverse - 40 women; 2 guys. (I knew I picked the wrong major.) Men and women are not that same. Men migrate towards "things" and women migrate towards "humans", each dominating their respective engineering & health majors. They don't think the same and they have different interests. Why can't people just accept that?