>>>These children that you speak of aren't some imaginary thing you can airly dismiss. They are the hopes and dreams of the parents who raised them, the future of our society, innocent and worthy of our very best efforts to protect them. >>>
Okay since you feel so strongly about it, when I get elected Governor of Pennsylvania in 2012, I will start a pogram.... oops I meant program to visit each-and-every house inside our lovely State and confiscate their machines. All of these PCs will be scanned for images of children, and then returned to the original owners.
I will start with your PC(s) first. You don't mind if we borrow your PCs for a month, do you?
What's that? You don't like the inconvenience?
WELL NEITHER DOES ANYONE ELSE YOU DURNED FOOL!
That's why we have the requirement that the government has to provide evidence FIRST, before it can be issued a search warrant. To prevent harassment of the citizens. "[The government] has erected a multitude of new offices by a self-assumed power, & sent hither swarms of officers to harrass our people;" - Declaration of Independence, 1776. "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation..." - Constitution, 1787
"[The government] has erected a multitude of new offices by a self-assumed power, & sent hither swarms of officers to harrass our people;" - Declaration of Independence, 1776
BTW:
I have a bomb in basement. Any police force who enters my home with warrant (or probable cause) is fine with me. No objections. But if they enter without warrant, then the rules change. I'm just one person and powerless to stop them, even when they are committing an illegal unConstitutional act. However the remote-controlled bomb will take care of them quite readily. BOOM. The message will be clear to police forces everywhere - don't violate the Supreme Law of the Land.
>>>Then don't break the law! What is so hard about not breaking the law.
Without the requirement for a search warrant, you don't have to break the law. The police can enter your home, take your PC, and keep it for a month without ever needing to justify the act. I call that "harassment" and it can NEVER be allowed to happen again.
A lot of you are missing the point, so let me put it in bold:
Without the requirement for search warrants (obtained from an impartial judge), the police, FBI, or other government officials/politicians can go from house-to-house-to-house taking PCs simply because they feel like it. Do YOU want to be a victim of these random, harassing, and very inconvenient confiscations. I certainly Do Not! The Constitution was written because that's precisely what was happened in the 1760 and 1770s, and the American people were stick and tired of the bullshit.
"[Our government] has erected a multitude of new offices by a self-assumed power, & sent hither swarms of officers to harrass our people" - Declaration of Independence, 1776
So they setup a Supreme Law of the Land that would prevent this from ever happening again.
>>>"Oh I don't have child porn" you say. Sure...but without that warrant the cops may just plant the evidence. Now what say you?
Even if they don't plant evidence, who wants to go through the hassle of losing their PC for one or two months while the cops scan it for hidden porn (or even stashed drugs). It's not about dishonesty by police, but stopping harassment of citizens. Nobody wants one or two months of their lives wasted just because the government agents have nothing better to do than grab private property.
"[the British government] has erected a multitude of new offices by a self-assumed power, & sent hither swarms of officers to harrass our people & eat out their substance;" - Declaration of Independence, 1776
>>>You have a new career opportunity opening up soon as a greeter at Wal-Mart.
Any employer who would fire a safemaker because an expert thief cracked the safe open is NOT an employer I would want to work for. As I'm walking-out-the-door, I'd be dialing a gaggle of lawyers to sue the ____ out of the employer for unjustified dismissal.
No safe and no security is 100% foolproof. Ever. An employer should not have the unrealistic demand that his admin create a 100% hackerproof system.
>>>A normal analog TV channel uses 6 MHz of bandwidth
So too does a normal digital TV station. Most stations subdivide the 6 megahertz into a 15 megabit/s HD stream and a 4-5 megabit/s SD stream. That's how I arrived at the typical HDTV program requiring about 15 Mbps.
Unfortunately DTV is not all it's been advertised to be. Sure the picture looks great, but my station count has dropped from 25 with analog to just 14-15 with digital, since digital is harder to receive. So I have fewer choices and less variety.
That's the problem right there. Limelight wasn't providing anything close to HDTV, but more like a fuzzy VHS tape. That wasn't a true test of what life would be like without broadcast television, if everybody had to rely on just internet to watch primetime news or entertainment. NBC.com was not taxing resources with its tiny ~0.5 megabit stream.
On the other hand, maybe it was a good example. Maybe the post-broadcast television will be nothing more than blurry VHS-quality images squeezed through internet lines. Not exactly a step forward IMHO.
>>>A normal TV channel uses 6 MHz of bandwidth, in that same space DOCSIS 2 can send 38 Mbps down
So? What? You discontinue broadcast DTV with a DOCSIS radio setup that only serves 50 homes (channels 2 to 51)??? Perhaps one hundred if you divide each channel into 19 Mbps each, which is the width of current HDTV. That does Not seem like a good solution.
Broadcast digital television serves *half-a-million* homes per market. And with multiple channels (14 average). 500,000 homes accessing 14 channels, for a total 266 Megabit/s downlink, is a lot better than 100 homes limited to just 19 Mbps.
P2P could not be used to send a 15 Mbps Heroes (5 gigabytes total) live video to 30 million people. Almost nobody has that kind of upload connection (mine is only 0.13M), which means it could take days to send just 1 complete copy from the original seeder.
Broadcast from 200 stations to 30,000,000 people at the same time is the most-efficient method. And no waiting time required.
>>>Socialism, BTW, is when the state controls corporations.
I was under the impression that it's the other way round. Corporations control the state, and the socialists merely give lip-service to the People, while secretly hatching deals that will enrich the corporations further. (Such as passing a Democrat/Biden Anti-bankruptcy bill which allows corporations to default, but not citizens.)
You're dead. What do you care where/how your music is used? Besides, it's a sad fact that if "evil corporations" did not use 200-300-400 year old music, a lot of that stuff would be forgotten by all by a few college professors and music historians.
Those 30 or 60 second ads have the benefit of keeping those ancient works "alive" in the minds of millions, rather than falling into disuse.
I'm sorry- How is an author's desire to get paid for his sweat, labor, and time "obsolete"? On the contrary, I consider that progressive.
Certainly more progressive than the 10,000-year-old practice of "shackling a man" and forcing him to work for free (slavery). The Romans built a whole culture around "educated slaves" who produced written documents and other useful arts. Caesar himself had several enslaved writers. That doesn't mean the American and European Unions should follow down the same path.
When you steal a book, and keep it permanently without compensation, that makes you no better than the Plantation Masters. IMHO.
U.S. Law requires, when a citizen makes a request, that organizations must assign a NEW number separate from their Social security number.
I don't do that myself, but I think maybe I should start, since the SSN makes me vulnerable to identity theft. I would be wise to demand new account numbers that are NOT tied to my SSN from my bank, school, credit company, et cetera. A thief acquiring my SSN now has access to every single account I own. ----- It would be inconvenient, but I should have a different number on everything, so as to limit the potential damage.
>>>"This started out as a "+1 funny"... but now I just feel "-1 WTH is happening to your country?""
Where have you been??? Didn't you study history? The United States has been like this since 1776:
- "Citizens owning guns is the surest defense against over-arching government." - General/President George Washington.
- "From time to time tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots." - Third President/Founder of the Democrat Party - Thomas Jefferson
- "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined." -- Patrick Henry
- "The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed, which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation where the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." -- James Madison, Federalist, No. 46.
- "We, the People are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts -- not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution." -- Abraham Lincoln, 1860s
When I see innocent 15-year-olds being jailed, just because they reported a security flaw, then that's when *I* think what-the=hell is wrong with our government? The government is supposed be there to as the People's Servant, not the other way round!
Okay, that would probably work. +1 to you. However: How many American have the necessary 15 megabit/s connection to watch Heroes, CSI, or Lost live from NBC, CBS, or ABC?
Um, er, trick question. Technically they ALL have 15 Mbit/s connections..... but only via broadcast reception, not internet. Very few americans have 15 Mbit/s or better internet services.
Level 100 - aka The Geek Snob - No videos of any kind. Instead you prefer to collect your Star Trek and other Sci-Fi in their novelized versions, because novels are the only "true" science fiction. Everything else is "beneath you".
Level 101 - You write your own science fiction.
Level 110 - You give it away for free because "art has no price".
And people claim they the internet can "replace" broadcast television for the distribution of HD videos. Yeah. Right. ABC.com, CBS.com, or NBC.com would need 600,000 gigabit of bandwidth to serve their average 30 million viewers each night..... this codeweaver.com site can't even handle a few downloads of software.
>>>I wonder if the people who come up with such stupid ideas even use the internet sometimes.
They use it.
But that's not enough. They want to CONTROL how it's used as well. (They must be Socialists/democrats.) Anyway, I was under the impression that this new idea merely offers the suggestion of legal methods, like watching "Lost" at abc.com..... it doesn't block access to a bittorrent of Lost if that's what you actually desire.
Kill what? Kazaa? Nah. It still has a useful purpose, even as "only" the second most-popular method of filesharing.
>>>When an ISP's customers use a file sharing program such as LimeWire to search for a pirated music track, they are instead presented with a list of search results containing legitimate versions of the song and are given the opportunity to buy it instantly. >>>
I think this is a good solution. Not that I would buy the song, since I prefer uncompressed CDs, but still it's a good way to remind people that there are legal methods of obtaining entertainment. An even better idea would be links to free websites. If for example someone searches "Heroes", they would be directed to either nbc.com or hulu.com where the show is available for free (but legal) viewing.
In other words, Bose speakers are to "ordinary" speakers as Lexus is to Toyota. A Lexus is really just a standard Toyota with a +$10,000 markup, in order to bilk people out of their hand-earned cash. It's still the same company, and essentially the same car.
Same applies to Acura and Honda.
Or Chrysler and Dodge. (My Dodge Avenger is near-identical to a Chrysler Sebring, except 9000 dollars lower in price.)
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>>>These children that you speak of aren't some imaginary thing you can airly dismiss. They are the hopes and dreams of the parents who raised them, the future of our society, innocent and worthy of our very best efforts to protect them.
>>>
Okay since you feel so strongly about it, when I get elected Governor of Pennsylvania in 2012, I will start a pogram.... oops I meant program to visit each-and-every house inside our lovely State and confiscate their machines. All of these PCs will be scanned for images of children, and then returned to the original owners.
I will start with your PC(s) first. You don't mind if we borrow your PCs for a month, do you?
What's that? You don't like the inconvenience?
WELL NEITHER DOES ANYONE ELSE YOU DURNED FOOL!
That's why we have the requirement that the government has to provide evidence FIRST, before it can be issued a search warrant. To prevent harassment of the citizens. "[The government] has erected a multitude of new offices by a self-assumed power, & sent hither swarms of officers to harrass our people;" - Declaration of Independence, 1776. "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation..." - Constitution, 1787
"[The government] has erected a multitude of new offices by a self-assumed power, & sent hither swarms of officers to harrass our people;" - Declaration of Independence, 1776
BTW:
I have a bomb in basement. Any police force who enters my home with warrant (or probable cause) is fine with me. No objections. But if they enter without warrant, then the rules change. I'm just one person and powerless to stop them, even when they are committing an illegal unConstitutional act. However the remote-controlled bomb will take care of them quite readily. BOOM. The message will be clear to police forces everywhere - don't violate the Supreme Law of the Land.
I'm just joking of course.
>>>Then don't break the law! What is so hard about not breaking the law.
Without the requirement for a search warrant, you don't have to break the law. The police can enter your home, take your PC, and keep it for a month without ever needing to justify the act. I call that "harassment" and it can NEVER be allowed to happen again.
>>>>>The man was clearly guilty
A lot of you are missing the point, so let me put it in bold:
Without the requirement for search warrants (obtained from an impartial judge), the police, FBI, or other government officials/politicians can go from house-to-house-to-house taking PCs simply because they feel like it. Do YOU want to be a victim of these random, harassing, and very inconvenient confiscations. I certainly Do Not! The Constitution was written because that's precisely what was happened in the 1760 and 1770s, and the American people were stick and tired of the bullshit.
"[Our government] has erected a multitude of new offices by a self-assumed power, & sent hither swarms of officers to harrass our people" - Declaration of Independence, 1776
So they setup a Supreme Law of the Land that would prevent this from ever happening again.
>>>"Oh I don't have child porn" you say. Sure...but without that warrant the cops may just plant the evidence. Now what say you?
Even if they don't plant evidence, who wants to go through the hassle of losing their PC for one or two months while the cops scan it for hidden porn (or even stashed drugs). It's not about dishonesty by police, but stopping harassment of citizens. Nobody wants one or two months of their lives wasted just because the government agents have nothing better to do than grab private property.
"[the British government] has erected a multitude of new offices by a self-assumed power, & sent hither swarms of officers to harrass our people & eat out their substance;" - Declaration of Independence, 1776
>>>You have a new career opportunity opening up soon as a greeter at Wal-Mart.
Any employer who would fire a safemaker because an expert thief cracked the safe open is NOT an employer I would want to work for. As I'm walking-out-the-door, I'd be dialing a gaggle of lawyers to sue the ____ out of the employer for unjustified dismissal.
No safe and no security is 100% foolproof. Ever. An employer should not have the unrealistic demand that his admin create a 100% hackerproof system.
P.S.
>>>A normal analog TV channel uses 6 MHz of bandwidth
So too does a normal digital TV station. Most stations subdivide the 6 megahertz into a 15 megabit/s HD stream and a 4-5 megabit/s SD stream. That's how I arrived at the typical HDTV program requiring about 15 Mbps.
Unfortunately DTV is not all it's been advertised to be. Sure the picture looks great, but my station count has dropped from 25 with analog to just 14-15 with digital, since digital is harder to receive. So I have fewer choices and less variety.
>>>[Limelight is]
That's the problem right there. Limelight wasn't providing anything close to HDTV, but more like a fuzzy VHS tape. That wasn't a true test of what life would be like without broadcast television, if everybody had to rely on just internet to watch primetime news or entertainment. NBC.com was not taxing resources with its tiny ~0.5 megabit stream.
On the other hand, maybe it was a good example. Maybe the post-broadcast television will be nothing more than blurry VHS-quality images squeezed through internet lines. Not exactly a step forward IMHO.
>>>A normal TV channel uses 6 MHz of bandwidth, in that same space DOCSIS 2 can send 38 Mbps down
So? What? You discontinue broadcast DTV with a DOCSIS radio setup that only serves 50 homes (channels 2 to 51)??? Perhaps one hundred if you divide each channel into 19 Mbps each, which is the width of current HDTV. That does Not seem like a good solution.
Broadcast digital television serves *half-a-million* homes per market. And with multiple channels (14 average). 500,000 homes accessing 14 channels, for a total 266 Megabit/s downlink, is a lot better than 100 homes limited to just 19 Mbps.
P2P could not be used to send a 15 Mbps Heroes (5 gigabytes total) live video to 30 million people. Almost nobody has that kind of upload connection (mine is only 0.13M), which means it could take days to send just 1 complete copy from the original seeder.
Broadcast from 200 stations to 30,000,000 people at the same time is the most-efficient method. And no waiting time required.
>>>Socialism, BTW, is when the state controls corporations.
I was under the impression that it's the other way round. Corporations control the state, and the socialists merely give lip-service to the People, while secretly hatching deals that will enrich the corporations further. (Such as passing a Democrat/Biden Anti-bankruptcy bill which allows corporations to default, but not citizens.)
You're dead. What do you care where/how your music is used? Besides, it's a sad fact that if "evil corporations" did not use 200-300-400 year old music, a lot of that stuff would be forgotten by all by a few college professors and music historians.
Those 30 or 60 second ads have the benefit of keeping those ancient works "alive" in the minds of millions, rather than falling into disuse.
I'm sorry- How is an author's desire to get paid for his sweat, labor, and time "obsolete"? On the contrary, I consider that progressive.
Certainly more progressive than the 10,000-year-old practice of "shackling a man" and forcing him to work for free (slavery). The Romans built a whole culture around "educated slaves" who produced written documents and other useful arts. Caesar himself had several enslaved writers. That doesn't mean the American and European Unions should follow down the same path.
When you steal a book, and keep it permanently without compensation, that makes you no better than the Plantation Masters. IMHO.
U.S. Law requires, when a citizen makes a request, that organizations must assign a NEW number separate from their Social security number.
I don't do that myself, but I think maybe I should start, since the SSN makes me vulnerable to identity theft. I would be wise to demand new account numbers that are NOT tied to my SSN from my bank, school, credit company, et cetera. A thief acquiring my SSN now has access to every single account I own. ----- It would be inconvenient, but I should have a different number on everything, so as to limit the potential damage.
>>>"This started out as a "+1 funny"... but now I just feel "-1 WTH is happening to your country?""
Where have you been??? Didn't you study history? The United States has been like this since 1776:
- "Citizens owning guns is the surest defense against over-arching government." - General/President George Washington.
- "From time to time tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots." - Third President/Founder of the Democrat Party - Thomas Jefferson
- "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined." -- Patrick Henry
- "The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed, which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation where the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." -- James Madison, Federalist, No. 46.
- "We, the People are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts -- not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution." -- Abraham Lincoln, 1860s
When I see innocent 15-year-olds being jailed, just because they reported a security flaw, then that's when *I* think what-the=hell is wrong with our government? The government is supposed be there to as the People's Servant, not the other way round!
Okay, that would probably work. +1 to you. However: How many American have the necessary 15 megabit/s connection to watch Heroes, CSI, or Lost live from NBC, CBS, or ABC?
Um, er, trick question. Technically they ALL have 15 Mbit/s connections..... but only via broadcast reception, not internet. Very few americans have 15 Mbit/s or better internet services.
Same as Babylon 5, since they both lasted their pre-designed, pre-ploted five years, except EFC is crap, so -1 off your "geek" karma.
(IMHO)
Level 111 - You turned yourself into a Borg [or a Binar; personally I'd rather be a free-thinking Binar than a Borg automaton].
+1 Funny! It took a while to get the joke.
Level 100 - aka The Geek Snob - No videos of any kind. Instead you prefer to collect your Star Trek and other Sci-Fi in their novelized versions, because novels are the only "true" science fiction. Everything else is "beneath you".
Level 101 - You write your own science fiction.
Level 110 - You give it away for free because "art has no price".
Level 111 - You turned yourself into a Borg.
I have a set of Babylon 5 Commemorative Plates (identical to those owned by Xander on Buffy tVS). Does that make me geek enough?
And people claim they the internet can "replace" broadcast television for the distribution of HD videos. Yeah. Right. ABC.com, CBS.com, or NBC.com would need 600,000 gigabit of bandwidth to serve their average 30 million viewers each night..... this codeweaver.com site can't even handle a few downloads of software.
>>>I wonder if the people who come up with such stupid ideas even use the internet sometimes.
They use it.
But that's not enough. They want to CONTROL how it's used as well. (They must be Socialists/democrats.) Anyway, I was under the impression that this new idea merely offers the suggestion of legal methods, like watching "Lost" at abc.com..... it doesn't block access to a bittorrent of Lost if that's what you actually desire.
Kill what? Kazaa? Nah. It still has a useful purpose, even as "only" the second most-popular method of filesharing.
>>>When an ISP's customers use a file sharing program such as LimeWire to search for a pirated music track, they are instead presented with a list of search results containing legitimate versions of the song and are given the opportunity to buy it instantly.
>>>
I think this is a good solution. Not that I would buy the song, since I prefer uncompressed CDs, but still it's a good way to remind people that there are legal methods of obtaining entertainment. An even better idea would be links to free websites. If for example someone searches "Heroes", they would be directed to either nbc.com or hulu.com where the show is available for free (but legal) viewing.
I got my Bose PC speakers for free.
(whistles while walking away). Oh, and they don't sound any better then the cheap no-name brand that came with my PC. You're just buying the label.
In other words, Bose speakers are to "ordinary" speakers as Lexus is to Toyota. A Lexus is really just a standard Toyota with a +$10,000 markup, in order to bilk people out of their hand-earned cash. It's still the same company, and essentially the same car.
Same applies to Acura and Honda.
Or Chrysler and Dodge. (My Dodge Avenger is near-identical to a Chrysler Sebring, except 9000 dollars lower in price.)