I suppose this quite usable beta's of ASP+ and the.NET stuff and C# im using are just my imagination... yes thats it... I hate bias like that without obvious and ismple fact checking
So let me come in your house. Let me go look through your personal belongings, hell dont leave your door unlocked and put a sign that says, browse my house, I dont need privacy.
Its one thing to say "If you ahvent done anything illegal you have nothing to hide", And oh what a prty line that is, but it is so untrue. Some people are just private by nature, things are more meaningful and your security is protected by you maintaining your own personal privacy. So the what if it IS just a shopping list, its MY shopping list and not anyone elses, and I wish people would not be so willing to give up their freedoms people fought and died to preserve..
Wired takes the opportunity and the "inside" information of an anonymous redhat employee to snipe at redhat a little. Anonymous at least he wished to remain anonymous..
There is really no real need to worry, as the article
sites redhat is performing well.
Not to mention these employees are being offered
new positions and the layoff affects 2% of 550 people
or 11 people.. this is news?
There are a lot of strongcounterpoints and criticisms to this crap, mostly like, a lot of that stuff is nebulous and circumstantial and just fuels conspiracy theoryies more than anything real
"Imagine that the self-declared winner's 'victory' turned on disputed votes cast in a province governed by his brother. " Conincidental at best, what if this happened in ANY other state?
Imagine that a major campaign promise of the self-declared winner was to appoint like-minded human rights violators to lifetime positions on the high court of that nation. Working based on assumptions in OTHER points, which just makes it more crap
Imagine that the self-declared winner lost the popular vote but won based on some colonial holdover (electoral college) from the nation's past. Definately debatable in the first place since this puts more power in the hands of regular voters
Imagine that hundreds of members of that most-despised caste were intercepted on their way to the polls by state police operating under the authority of the self-declared winner's brother. PUH LEASE...
Heh, there are so many user groups around here for mainstream languages its not funny.
Computer "clubs" like for an individual computer are asanine now a days(read: I have my own AMD computer club...WOW!, bzzt ill go read Arstechnica). However here in Atlanta which is accessible within a couple hours by a LOT of people there are tons of groups, ColdFusion, Java, Linux, just to name a few ive been too
It is nice and some of these groups have seen high profile people come to them
It is a great way to network and all that
Anyhow I really enjoy it, im very sure if I looked I could find many other computer oriented groups around here:)
*yawn* All languages are for all programmers, it depends on your need, C/C++ are for WHEN a programmer needs a hardcore language, Java does not suck, it depends on the application and the programmer.. as does ANY program, go away
There is no reason, Insertion sort runs quicker, and with less than say 10 inputs Insertion Sort(Or Shellsort) are quite effecient and easy to write
These can even handle a moderate number of inputs
Use quicksort when you have a shi*load of inputs
Quicksort is good, but it can be tricky to implement really good to help avoid worst case, and getting the partioning write etc can be kind of tricky
If worst case is simply unacceptable I have used a combination of Heapsort/Mergesort (hard to explain) to make sure that worst case is never hit (like in quicksort) when worst case is just unacceptable but quick sorting is needed. Were this to be a really critical realtime system(maybe a nuclear power plant) speed and such would be a consideration as WELL as it working properly. Hehe anyhow enough about this, I have done a bit of sorting(written a bit of a Java Email client for shits and grins)
Definitely not, work on your liberal arts skills some more so that you can write posts longer than Katz while still focusing on a central point THEN come back..
Most guys playing a game like that go into "take over and conquer(sp?) mode.
Guys being fairly goal oriented in general (myself included) tend to get a little uptight in a highly competitive environment, I think its a big thing that people get so worked up over a game, I just love playing QuakeIII I can give a shit if I dont do the greatest, I dont have hours on end to improve my game even if I did I wouldnt there is much more that is much better than video games. Just enjoy them!!!! (As the parent post proves, most guys arent very friendly most likely because they are taking games waaaay to serious)
"A suspicious (yet anxious) Anonymous Coward asks"
Obviously they realized that this was pretty fishy looking....
I think they just posted this because a lot of people would be interested in something such as this, even if it is blatant PR more than one option tends to pop up in a/. discussiom...:)
I know its not a big thing, and that/. would post ahigher concentration of this, but it is relevant to the discussion that two potentially or big time players have withdrawn, so yes I realize this is useless, buti ts fun to talk about and guess at, especially with purely office style applications
So its hard to prove a trend, but we are talking about office apps here not just linux apps in general right? That is what I was thinking when I posted this
Certainly even with a high quality*(cough),relative to the windows version, there would not be as much incentive for MS to release its port of Office to linux, if such a beast even existed, when it would be a diminishing returns situation.
As other software matures, the need for MS Office would lessen more.
So, that leaves the OSS world with its own little ball of wax so to speak, some people like it this way, some people might not. What I mean is no ones going to getinto a market like this when the other *free* products keep getting better, so that leaves Unix desktops with StarOffice and all of the other free products, and that is it, thats all we have.
I dont think this speaks well for commercilization efforts of Linux either, not that this is a good thing, just not "good" for anyone looking to see Linux get more "mainstream(read:commercial)" before they will adopt it.. PHB world aside.. I feel quite indifferent to all of this
I was *JUST* giving an example:-) I knew someone would come with their huge uptimes and heavy load averages:-) I never once stated that Linux was *NOT* stable, its damn nice too
Thank you.. why would anyone bother with GPL'd code anyways?
By my experience (take this comment with a grain of salt) FreeBSD is a great server OS that at least rivals any Linux distro in the ability to be a server under heavy load serving... files, webpages, whatever it is reputed for its rock hard stability also, my machine has been up 70 days or so, thats pretty stable considering I run quite a few programs including Seti for over 60 of those days, pretty good
Okay so why would I bother with Linux code when I can just take BSD kernel code and do so LEGALLY? Hmmn.. one wonders
So I reached the conclusion that I lost a lot of respect for peterly...
He sems like a zealot, like hes just looking to make these asanine stories find some more "substantial" proof when its not there because MS does not make billions by being stupid (take THAT comment as you may too)
Slashdot Mirror
LOL, Its not that bad actually...
.NET but anyways right tools for the right job :)
C# runs okay... it needs a lot with speed improvements, and its good to keep in mind this is an EARLY beta
I like
Jeremy
OMG.....This stuff except C# is at the microsoft site....
R L=/code/sample.asp?url=/msdn-files/027/000/976/msd ncompositedoc.xml
http://msdn.microsoft.com/net/
Goto Downloads on the left...
this might work
http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/default.asp?U
Come on.. it was EASY to find this
Oh I must be imagining these Visual Studio.NET beta's of C# im using.... *sigh* check the facts folks
Jeremy
I suppose this quite usable beta's of ASP+ and the .NET stuff and C# im using are just my imagination... yes thats it... I hate bias like that without obvious and ismple fact checking
Jeremy
Actually its 10, I was asleep.
You dial xxx-xxx-xxxx
You HAVE to dial all 10, its not that big a deal. I have access (local calling) to way over a few million people in the Atlanta area, its pretty nice
Jeremy
Here in atlanta its mandantory you dial 9 numbers...to call.. anywhere, even in all the sattelite cities etc.
Jeremy
So let me come in your house. Let me go look through your personal belongings, hell dont leave your door unlocked and put a sign that says, browse my house, I dont need privacy.
Its one thing to say "If you ahvent done anything illegal you have nothing to hide", And oh what a prty line that is, but it is so untrue. Some people are just private by nature, things are more meaningful and your security is protected by you maintaining your own personal privacy. So the what if it IS just a shopping list, its MY shopping list and not anyone elses, and I wish people would not be so willing to give up their freedoms people fought and died to preserve..
Jeremy
SO it can fold better! :-D Its designed for ads n stuff stick it in the middle of a mag, the thinner the more malleable right?
Jeremy
Having Latex as a standard would defy almost all of the current web development philosophy out there.
:-|, HTML is good, it works, boohiss, ;)
Think: If I want to upsize the font with a latex document what happens, eeep my font sizes are all static
Jeremy
Wired takes the opportunity and the "inside" information of an anonymous redhat employee to snipe at redhat a little. Anonymous at least he wished to remain anonymous..
There is really no real need to worry, as the article sites redhat is performing well.
Not to mention these employees are being offered new positions and the layoff affects 2% of 550 people or 11 people.. this is news?
Jeremy
There are a lot of strongcounterpoints and criticisms to this crap, mostly like, a lot of that stuff is nebulous and circumstantial and just fuels conspiracy theoryies more than anything real
"Imagine that the self-declared winner's 'victory' turned on disputed votes cast in a province governed by his brother. " Conincidental at best, what if this happened in ANY other state?
Imagine that a major campaign promise of the self-declared winner was to appoint like-minded human rights violators to lifetime positions on the high court of that nation. Working based on assumptions in OTHER points, which just makes it more crap
Imagine that the self-declared winner lost the popular vote but won based on some colonial holdover (electoral college) from the nation's past. Definately debatable in the first place since this puts more power in the hands of regular voters
Imagine that hundreds of members of that most-despised caste were intercepted on their way to the polls by state police operating under the authority of the self-declared winner's brother. PUH LEASE...
Each of those points is highly debatable
Jeremy
Heh, there are so many user groups around here for mainstream languages its not funny.
:)
Computer "clubs" like for an individual computer are asanine now a days(read: I have my own AMD computer club...WOW!, bzzt ill go read Arstechnica). However here in Atlanta which is accessible within a couple hours by a LOT of people there are tons of groups, ColdFusion, Java, Linux, just to name a few ive been too
It is nice and some of these groups have seen high profile people come to them
It is a great way to network and all that
Anyhow I really enjoy it, im very sure if I looked I could find many other computer oriented groups around here
Jeremy
*grumbles* BASIC has its place, less we forget visual basic :)
Jeremy
*yawn* All languages are for all programmers, it depends on your need, C/C++ are for WHEN a programmer needs a hardcore language, Java does not suck, it depends on the application and the programmer.. as does ANY program, go away
Jeremy
There is no reason, Insertion sort runs quicker, and with less than say 10 inputs Insertion Sort(Or Shellsort) are quite effecient and easy to write
:-D
These can even handle a moderate number of inputs
Use quicksort when you have a shi*load of inputs
Quicksort is good, but it can be tricky to implement really good to help avoid worst case, and getting the partioning write etc can be kind of tricky
If worst case is simply unacceptable I have used a combination of Heapsort/Mergesort (hard to explain) to make sure that worst case is never hit (like in quicksort) when worst case is just unacceptable but quick sorting is needed. Were this to be a really critical realtime system(maybe a nuclear power plant) speed and such would be a consideration as WELL as it working properly. Hehe anyhow enough about this, I have done a bit of sorting(written a bit of a Java Email client for shits and grins)
Jeremy
Thats sad, considering it took me less than 3 hours to damn near write a complete spell checker minus a decent word matching algorithm :-D
Jeremy
He was caught
The really fascinating stories like this are the ones you never hear about.
Those are the people who go undetected hacking the system so to speak
Its unfortunate we wont hear about the people who are smart enough to never get caught, because they are the ones truly *above* the system
Jeremy
Yes, it just takes someone as largiloquent and long winded as Katz to figure out what it is
Jeremy
Definitely not, work on your liberal arts skills some more so that you can write posts longer than Katz while still focusing on a central point THEN come back..
:-D
*wiating to be modded into oblivian
Jeremy
Most guys playing a game like that go into "take over and conquer(sp?) mode.
Guys being fairly goal oriented in general (myself included) tend to get a little uptight in a highly competitive environment, I think its a big thing that people get so worked up over a game, I just love playing QuakeIII I can give a shit if I dont do the greatest, I dont have hours on end to improve my game even if I did I wouldnt there is much more that is much better than video games. Just enjoy them!!!! (As the parent post proves, most guys arent very friendly most likely because they are taking games waaaay to serious)
Jeremy
"A suspicious (yet anxious) Anonymous Coward asks"
/. discussiom... :)
Obviously they realized that this was pretty fishy looking....
I think they just posted this because a lot of people would be interested in something such as this, even if it is blatant PR more than one option tends to pop up in a
Jeremy
I know its not a big thing, and that /. would post ahigher concentration of this, but it is relevant to the discussion that two potentially or big time players have withdrawn, so yes I realize this is useless, buti ts fun to talk about and guess at, especially with purely office style applications
So its hard to prove a trend, but we are talking about office apps here not just linux apps in general right? That is what I was thinking when I posted this
Jeremy
Does anyone see a trend here?
,relative to the windows version, there would not be as much incentive for MS to release its port of Office to linux, if such a beast even existed, when it would be a diminishing returns situation.
Adobe, Applix, all leaving the desktop market.
Certainly even with a high quality*(cough)
As other software matures, the need for MS Office would lessen more.
So, that leaves the OSS world with its own little ball of wax so to speak, some people like it this way, some people might not. What I mean is no ones going to getinto a market like this when the other *free* products keep getting better, so that leaves Unix desktops with StarOffice and all of the other free products, and that is it, thats all we have.
I dont think this speaks well for commercilization efforts of Linux either, not that this is a good thing, just not "good" for anyone looking to see Linux get more "mainstream(read:commercial)" before they will adopt it.. PHB world aside.. I feel quite indifferent to all of this
Jeremy
Albeit, Marketing, Cunning, Law Manipualtion, Indsutry secrets, whatever.., they DO have strengths.. Which give them the ability to make money
Jeremy
I was *JUST* giving an example :-) I knew someone would come with their huge uptimes and heavy load averages :-) I never once stated that Linux was *NOT* stable, its damn nice too
Jeremy
Thank you.. why would anyone bother with GPL'd code anyways?
By my experience (take this comment with a grain of salt) FreeBSD is a great server OS that at least rivals any Linux distro in the ability to be a server under heavy load serving... files, webpages, whatever it is reputed for its rock hard stability also, my machine has been up 70 days or so, thats pretty stable considering I run quite a few programs including Seti for over 60 of those days, pretty good
Okay so why would I bother with Linux code when I can just take BSD kernel code and do so LEGALLY? Hmmn.. one wonders
So I reached the conclusion that I lost a lot of respect for peterly...
He sems like a zealot, like hes just looking to make these asanine stories find some more "substantial" proof when its not there because MS does not make billions by being stupid (take THAT comment as you may too)
Jeremy