>>While Linux will have several journalling file systems supported under it. IBM wants to be sure that JFS is one of them. Likewise other extra bits of >>functionality... battle it out for the defacto standard. IBM will probably start trundling out those other pieces in competition.... So the Linux wars are going to >>be the opposite of the Unix wars, where everyone throws in their features and tries to get theirs to become the dominant functionality inside of Linux.... And >>IBM has a lot of reason to want to win those wars.
Actually, we don't think of our JFS porting effort as being in competition with SGI's. Nor do we think it is important for IBM technology to be adopted as the defacto standard technology in Linux. Rather, what we are interested in is
1) Helping the community to accelerate the maturation of Linux 2) Helping to keep Linux from permanently forking (microforking is ok, of course).
The technology we bring forward (like JFS) is not meant to put us in competition. It is meant to offer choice to the community. As long as Linux eventually gets the best possible journalling technology, we fundamentally don't care if it is ours, SGI's, a combination, or something totally different. When the community converges on that best choice, we'll support it, wherever it came from. Branches can come and go as long as the tree doesn't split.
Thanks. Daniel Frye IBM Linux Technology Center danielf@us.ibm.com
If you have a question about a specific product, then contacting the product group is the correct first step. But as was learned here, no system is perfect;-) In general, open source questions or comments can be posted at our open source site at http://ibm.com/developerworks/opensource and they will get to me or someone else on the IBM open source core team (yes, there is such a beast).
Or you can write me directly at danielf@us.ibm.com.
We're very interested in every aspect of working with the open source community and although it may not be as evident as everyone would like, we already are in a number of areas. What we haven't earned yet, based on our short time in the field, is the right to make a big deal about it.
Thanks. Daniel Frye Program Director, Open Source & Linux IBM Linux Technology Center
We're training IBM teams just as fast as we can on open source rules and guidelines, including the obligations of the various licenses. Obviously, we have more work to do here. It is absolutely our intent that when we work with the open source community, we work within the ethos, both in spirit and in detail. Like everyone else, we will on occasion make mistakes. When we do, we will fix them. We're looking into the ADSM situation right now. If we've made a mistake here, we will fix it and we will follow up on/. with additional info as soon as we have it. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. By the way, ADSM was one of IBM's first offerings on Linux and was built when we were quite new at this (not an excuse, just a tidbit).
Thanks. Daniel Frye Program Director, Open Source & Linux IBM Linux Technology Center danielf@us.ibm.com
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>>While Linux will have several journalling file systems supported under it. IBM wants to be sure that JFS is one of them. Likewise other extra bits of >>functionality... battle it out for the defacto standard. IBM will probably start trundling out those other pieces in competition.... So the Linux wars are going to >>be the opposite of the Unix wars, where everyone throws in their features and tries to get theirs to become the dominant functionality inside of Linux.... And >>IBM has a lot of reason to want to win those wars.
Actually, we don't think of our JFS porting effort as being in competition with SGI's. Nor do we think it is important for IBM technology to be adopted as the defacto standard technology in Linux. Rather, what we are interested in is
1) Helping the community to accelerate the maturation of Linux
2) Helping to keep Linux from permanently forking (microforking is ok, of course).
The technology we bring forward (like JFS) is not meant to put us in competition. It is meant to offer choice to the community. As long as Linux eventually gets the best possible journalling technology, we fundamentally don't care if it is ours, SGI's, a combination, or something totally different. When the community converges on that best choice, we'll support it, wherever it came from. Branches can come and go as long as the tree doesn't split.
Thanks.
Daniel Frye
IBM Linux Technology Center
danielf@us.ibm.com
The corrected library will be available shortly. Thanks. Daniel Frye IBM
If you have a question about a specific product, then contacting the product group is the correct first step. But as was learned here, no system is perfect ;-) In general, open source questions or comments can be posted at our open source site at http://ibm.com/developerworks/opensource and they will get to me or someone else on the IBM open source core team (yes, there is such a beast).
Or you can write me directly at danielf@us.ibm.com.
We're very interested in every aspect of working with the open source community and although it may not be as evident as everyone would like, we already are in a number of areas. What we haven't earned yet, based on our short time in the field, is the right to make a big deal about it.
Thanks.
Daniel Frye
Program Director, Open Source & Linux
IBM Linux Technology Center
We're training IBM teams just as fast as we can on open source rules and guidelines, including the obligations of the various licenses. Obviously, we have more work to do here. It is absolutely our intent that when we work with the open source community, we work within the ethos, both in spirit and in detail. Like everyone else, we will on occasion make mistakes. When we do, we will fix them. We're looking into the ADSM situation right now. If we've made a mistake here, we will fix it and we will follow up on /. with additional info as soon as we have it. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. By the way, ADSM was one of IBM's first offerings on Linux and was built when we were quite new at this (not an excuse, just a tidbit).
Thanks.
Daniel Frye
Program Director, Open Source & Linux
IBM Linux Technology Center
danielf@us.ibm.com