My website, my rules and no corrosive SJW bullshit.
That's probably the best way to handle it. I get that some people want to participate in a community by joining up on things like SO. But to have the greatest freedom running your own website or blog is probably for the best. In addition the tiny fraction of us still using RSS readers might already be regularly reading your site. I guess I tend to favor decentralized anti-authoritarian models, either because of my politics or because I don't like there being a single point of failure. If SO can't greatly improve the quality of its content then I call that a failure, even without impending social-justice policies. (which I personally don't think SJW policies are a big deal either way)
So it's OK for you to engage in activities that cause pollution, but your representatives should clamp down on other people who are going about their chosen activities?
Am I doing things that cause pollution? Certainly I exhale CO2 and I create water that must be treated and recycled back into the environment. But what I do is not equivalent to dumping polychlorinated biphenyl into the drain because it's cheaper than having it disposed of safely. If there are improvements I can make, I am certainly willing to try.
I have representatives to do the boring dirty work of organizing a great number of opinions and debatable priorities within the government. I am unable to force my will into others, nor should I.
Common core is 2nd grade calculus. That's the point.
America has fallen behind the world in mathematics for four or five decades. If we keep teaching the same things in the same way we shouldn't expect different results. (isn't that the definition of insanity?)
I see, so you expect others to fix the problems you make, rather than fix them through your own actions
Correct. I'll do my job. And other people must do theirs. If this were an anarchy then I would be expected to do everything myself. Grow my own food. Refine my own crude oil.
If some aspect of my behavior must be changed to avoid making further problems, I am fine doing that. But I am not going to convert to asceticism on some to gain a moral high-ground when in practice it will be less effective than acknowledging.
you apparently didn't decide to take into consideration the effects of your purchases on the environment.
Maybe I did, and my actions are not significant enough to matter. I still needed gasoline to get my ass to work. I'm not allowed to own a horse and buggy, it's against city regulations. I guess cities decided shoveling literal tons of shit off the roads was more onerous than the smog.
But what the heck, lets tax the profitable businesses so they have less money to be good stewards with.
Well you assume that every dollar of revenue belongs to a business. Maybe they should have to pay the public for using common resources like lakes, streams, oil, gas, etc. Paying for common services like roads and municipal water is already normal for a business.
Is paying for something the same as a tax? Sometimes it is, but I feel like tax is a dirty word applied to any payment that is unpleasant.
P.S. calling your representative's office is more effective than writing to them. But I've found writing to flow a lot easier.
Could you explain how you think I am proposing a tax? But that's clearly what I'm trying to avoid. Throwing money in the general fund and letting some bureaucrat manage it tends to be very inefficient (although better than doing nothing).
PS- I left the GOP in 2016. I tend to bounce between LP and independent and GOP. I'm supporting mostly independents in my local elections this time around.
What have you done to clean up the part of the mess that you made by living in first world conditions?
I've written my representatives frequently to ask that we not shit where we eat. As is my right and responsibility in a democratic republic.
Pollution is also the cost of supplying first world living conditions.
I'm not sure if leaded gasoline was really all that necessary to have a high standard of living. I don't think overfishing is the necessary consequence to feed our populace. And I don't think fertilizer run-off into our freshwater ecosystem is the only way to operate a farm. I think frequent chemical spills is a symptom of mismanagement, poor oversight, incompetence, and criminal negligence.
Obviously you partake, since you're using a computing device connected to the internet
Perhaps the purchase price of my computer did not include all of the necessary the costs. Paying to clean up our environment through tax dollars is a bit like padding the income of every business. As a consumer, in the end I will have to pay.
It is way cheaper for a business to avoid spills than for it to accumulate over decades. We're at a point that we can't force businesses to clean up some of the biggest sites as it would bankrupt them before they could finish the job. I propose that we not let things get to the point where we need the government to step in and clean it up.
In my country its up to the parents to buy textbooks and materials for their children.
And you pay significantly less tax for that. If some of your tax was specifically earmarked for buying text books for students, and the schools weren't doing it, you'd be upset about it too.
Theoretically the schools re-use the textbooks each year. But some of the publishers have manipulated government officials to upgrade to new editions approximately every 2-3 years. Honestly I don't think much changes in the field of science that it would affect a 6th grade science textbook. Poorer schools keep the textbooks in class and don't send them home with students, which makes homework and study problematic.
Yeah, I remember it (our id's are only a couple hundred apart). Never found use for sites like experts-exchange. I ended up going on IRC and asking questions because I couldn't get a straight answer out of advertisement driven websites. You could go to #c for C questions, probably have to deal with a lot of attitude from the regulators but maybe you'd get lucky and your question was interesting enough for someone to throw you a bone.
There were (are?) some technical forums that were helpful too, but usually they were pretty narrowly limited to a particular language, environment or library. For example, going to a forum for SDL is great for getting help on SDL, but maybe not so great when there is a more general non-SDL related problem. Going to IRC and things were mostly organized by programming language.
Wikipedia is sometimes good for well established academic topics. Like if I want to make a k-d tree, something like Wikipedia can be a great resource. But it doesn't necessarily delve into more mundane topics like setting up a build environment, or topics that are specific to your own project.
I think what I would like to see is some of the rigor that is applied to Wikipedia and to the site being used as sort of a living document. Right now it tries to both live in an ephemeral forum like format where the questions and their resolution are a snapshot in time. But at the same time the site archives and indexes everything as if the first time a question is answered is the final truth in the matter.
Weakness is failing to treat other people with respect.
I think it's a real shame that our society has to resort to making policies and laws to instruct people how to behave.
It's rather embarrassing for those of us who were computer nerds that were not part of the popular peer groups when we were younger not applying those experiences to treat people who have been excluded better. Instead our little programming sub-culture devolved into a system of social posturing that is in some ways as simplistic as a middle school clique. I eventually came to realize that it was naïve of me to believe that it could have been any other way.
The SJW issue aside, as I don't think that will ultimately affect the fate of SO. Too many times reasonable debate on a technical topic is squashed or the wrong answers are accepted. The way the site is structured and its policies means it doesn't iterate on finding the best answer. SO was a good experiment, but without a massive correction it's unlikely to be relevant.
People who are active on the site are rewarded and allowed more power and thus able to be even more active. This would be fine if their actions were always positive and valuable. But really any activity even stupid actions or early enforcement of site policy to the detriment of closing the topic is rewarded.
Luckily this is the Internet and a bit of search engine foo can turn up good leads to answer a question. Even a bad SO with a wrong answer can at least have some leads, so it's not totally worthless. But I frequently have to dig up proper papers for new coworkers who erroneously trust the content on SO.
So they said in the press release, "Rest easy, our beloved Gopher Mascot remains at the center of our brand." But it feels like a mixed message to me.
Now that I've calmed down I will still be using Go. It's a very practical language. Sure, it oversold on its capabilities, so must lower the expectations built up by the hype. Is Go a great concurrency language? No, not really compared to Erlang/Elixir's environment. Does Go fix trade some of the design decisions of C and generally improve on it? Subjective, but yes I think it does. At the end of the day it's about getting reliable software out the door, and a Go program is generally an easy thing to design and implement. For me it totally replaces Java. No need to install an environment (JVM), no need to deal with Oracle.
It's so terrible for you that the world isn't the same as it was 20 years. You're so brave to speak out against this injustice of social change impacting your day to day life.
I prefer the Go Gopher mascot. A fat gopher makes a better t-shirt than the word "Go" in a generic looking font.
Tux the penguin. Beastie the BSD daemon, Puffy the OpenBSD pufferfish, and Glenda the Plan 9 Bunny.
These are mascots that continue to be loved by their user communities. If we have to be so straight laced and professional that we can't enjoy a whimsical mascot then I don't think I'm really the target audience anymore and I expect my path and the Go communities path to start to diverge.
Being an exchange is zero risk, and you get a slice of all the action. No need to worry about the latest mining hardware, or losing your shirt in the wildly unstable cryptocurrency market.
In many circumstances the Federal government enjoys sovereign immunity. It it very difficult to bring a lawsuit against the government as it has to meet some pretty narrow requirements.
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My website, my rules and no corrosive SJW bullshit.
That's probably the best way to handle it. I get that some people want to participate in a community by joining up on things like SO. But to have the greatest freedom running your own website or blog is probably for the best. In addition the tiny fraction of us still using RSS readers might already be regularly reading your site. I guess I tend to favor decentralized anti-authoritarian models, either because of my politics or because I don't like there being a single point of failure. If SO can't greatly improve the quality of its content then I call that a failure, even without impending social-justice policies. (which I personally don't think SJW policies are a big deal either way)
So it's OK for you to engage in activities that cause pollution, but your representatives should clamp down on other people who are going about their chosen activities?
Am I doing things that cause pollution? Certainly I exhale CO2 and I create water that must be treated and recycled back into the environment. But what I do is not equivalent to dumping polychlorinated biphenyl into the drain because it's cheaper than having it disposed of safely. If there are improvements I can make, I am certainly willing to try.
I have representatives to do the boring dirty work of organizing a great number of opinions and debatable priorities within the government. I am unable to force my will into others, nor should I.
Common core is 2nd grade calculus. That's the point.
America has fallen behind the world in mathematics for four or five decades. If we keep teaching the same things in the same way we shouldn't expect different results. (isn't that the definition of insanity?)
I see, so you expect others to fix the problems you make, rather than fix them through your own actions
Correct. I'll do my job. And other people must do theirs. If this were an anarchy then I would be expected to do everything myself. Grow my own food. Refine my own crude oil.
If some aspect of my behavior must be changed to avoid making further problems, I am fine doing that. But I am not going to convert to asceticism on some to gain a moral high-ground when in practice it will be less effective than acknowledging.
you apparently didn't decide to take into consideration the effects of your purchases on the environment.
Maybe I did, and my actions are not significant enough to matter. I still needed gasoline to get my ass to work. I'm not allowed to own a horse and buggy, it's against city regulations. I guess cities decided shoveling literal tons of shit off the roads was more onerous than the smog.
But what the heck, lets tax the profitable businesses so they have less money to be good stewards with.
Well you assume that every dollar of revenue belongs to a business. Maybe they should have to pay the public for using common resources like lakes, streams, oil, gas, etc. Paying for common services like roads and municipal water is already normal for a business.
Is paying for something the same as a tax? Sometimes it is, but I feel like tax is a dirty word applied to any payment that is unpleasant.
P.S. calling your representative's office is more effective than writing to them. But I've found writing to flow a lot easier.
Could you explain how you think I am proposing a tax? But that's clearly what I'm trying to avoid. Throwing money in the general fund and letting some bureaucrat manage it tends to be very inefficient (although better than doing nothing).
PS- I left the GOP in 2016. I tend to bounce between LP and independent and GOP. I'm supporting mostly independents in my local elections this time around.
What have you done to clean up the part of the mess that you made by living in first world conditions?
I've written my representatives frequently to ask that we not shit where we eat. As is my right and responsibility in a democratic republic.
Pollution is also the cost of supplying first world living conditions.
I'm not sure if leaded gasoline was really all that necessary to have a high standard of living. I don't think overfishing is the necessary consequence to feed our populace. And I don't think fertilizer run-off into our freshwater ecosystem is the only way to operate a farm. I think frequent chemical spills is a symptom of mismanagement, poor oversight, incompetence, and criminal negligence.
Obviously you partake, since you're using a computing device connected to the internet
Perhaps the purchase price of my computer did not include all of the necessary the costs. Paying to clean up our environment through tax dollars is a bit like padding the income of every business. As a consumer, in the end I will have to pay.
It is way cheaper for a business to avoid spills than for it to accumulate over decades. We're at a point that we can't force businesses to clean up some of the biggest sites as it would bankrupt them before they could finish the job. I propose that we not let things get to the point where we need the government to step in and clean it up.
The process of decomposing operations is important for higher math.
In my country its up to the parents to buy textbooks and materials for their children.
And you pay significantly less tax for that. If some of your tax was specifically earmarked for buying text books for students, and the schools weren't doing it, you'd be upset about it too.
Theoretically the schools re-use the textbooks each year. But some of the publishers have manipulated government officials to upgrade to new editions approximately every 2-3 years. Honestly I don't think much changes in the field of science that it would affect a 6th grade science textbook. Poorer schools keep the textbooks in class and don't send them home with students, which makes homework and study problematic.
Pollution is the cost of doing business. So maybe business should pay to clean it up.
Yeah, I remember it (our id's are only a couple hundred apart). Never found use for sites like experts-exchange. I ended up going on IRC and asking questions because I couldn't get a straight answer out of advertisement driven websites. You could go to #c for C questions, probably have to deal with a lot of attitude from the regulators but maybe you'd get lucky and your question was interesting enough for someone to throw you a bone.
There were (are?) some technical forums that were helpful too, but usually they were pretty narrowly limited to a particular language, environment or library. For example, going to a forum for SDL is great for getting help on SDL, but maybe not so great when there is a more general non-SDL related problem. Going to IRC and things were mostly organized by programming language.
Wikipedia is sometimes good for well established academic topics. Like if I want to make a k-d tree, something like Wikipedia can be a great resource. But it doesn't necessarily delve into more mundane topics like setting up a build environment, or topics that are specific to your own project.
I think what I would like to see is some of the rigor that is applied to Wikipedia and to the site being used as sort of a living document. Right now it tries to both live in an ephemeral forum like format where the questions and their resolution are a snapshot in time. But at the same time the site archives and indexes everything as if the first time a question is answered is the final truth in the matter.
Weakness is failing to treat other people with respect.
I think it's a real shame that our society has to resort to making policies and laws to instruct people how to behave.
It's rather embarrassing for those of us who were computer nerds that were not part of the popular peer groups when we were younger not applying those experiences to treat people who have been excluded better. Instead our little programming sub-culture devolved into a system of social posturing that is in some ways as simplistic as a middle school clique. I eventually came to realize that it was naïve of me to believe that it could have been any other way.
The SJW issue aside, as I don't think that will ultimately affect the fate of SO. Too many times reasonable debate on a technical topic is squashed or the wrong answers are accepted. The way the site is structured and its policies means it doesn't iterate on finding the best answer. SO was a good experiment, but without a massive correction it's unlikely to be relevant.
People who are active on the site are rewarded and allowed more power and thus able to be even more active. This would be fine if their actions were always positive and valuable. But really any activity even stupid actions or early enforcement of site policy to the detriment of closing the topic is rewarded.
Luckily this is the Internet and a bit of search engine foo can turn up good leads to answer a question. Even a bad SO with a wrong answer can at least have some leads, so it's not totally worthless. But I frequently have to dig up proper papers for new coworkers who erroneously trust the content on SO.
I'm not really so civilized. It's more like that I'm not surprised and upset when the world changes around me.
Change is scary, but millions of generations before you have been able to adapt to change, so maybe give it a try.
So they said in the press release, "Rest easy, our beloved Gopher Mascot remains at the center of our brand." But it feels like a mixed message to me.
Now that I've calmed down I will still be using Go. It's a very practical language. Sure, it oversold on its capabilities, so must lower the expectations built up by the hype. Is Go a great concurrency language? No, not really compared to Erlang/Elixir's environment. Does Go fix trade some of the design decisions of C and generally improve on it? Subjective, but yes I think it does. At the end of the day it's about getting reliable software out the door, and a Go program is generally an easy thing to design and implement. For me it totally replaces Java. No need to install an environment (JVM), no need to deal with Oracle.
LOL maybe
It's so terrible for you that the world isn't the same as it was 20 years. You're so brave to speak out against this injustice of social change impacting your day to day life.
The only way the new logo could be more minimalist if instead of the word GO it was a blank piece of paper.
I prefer the Go Gopher mascot. A fat gopher makes a better t-shirt than the word "Go" in a generic looking font.
Tux the penguin. Beastie the BSD daemon, Puffy the OpenBSD pufferfish, and Glenda the Plan 9 Bunny.
These are mascots that continue to be loved by their user communities. If we have to be so straight laced and professional that we can't enjoy a whimsical mascot then I don't think I'm really the target audience anymore and I expect my path and the Go communities path to start to diverge.
As if the warranty ever covered anything beyond manufacturing defects. Even then they weasel out of honoring the warranty.
My desktop monitor is 21:9 (actually 64:27) ultra-widescreen. So there are poorer choices for desktop displays in active use.
I'll hold out until TVs have Smell-o-vision®
Bitcoin - the free market version of wealth redistribution.
I'm pretty sure my sense of smell doesn't function at -200 C.
Being an exchange is zero risk, and you get a slice of all the action. No need to worry about the latest mining hardware, or losing your shirt in the wildly unstable cryptocurrency market.
In many circumstances the Federal government enjoys sovereign immunity. It it very difficult to bring a lawsuit against the government as it has to meet some pretty narrow requirements.