Mac percentage? Actually, mac has had about %7 of the market for the longest time...personally, i don't see them going anywhere fast. %7 is MacOS's niche. it won't go up...it won't go down. It'll just sit there. (Did anyone forget to mention that Linux now has almost exactly the same market share on the desktop.)
As for your musicians "music." I'm a musician as well. I play Guitar, Bass, and have been know to touch drums as well. While i also screw around with stuff made by Rolland or even software like Rebirth, don't *EVER* accuse me of being some techno, trip-hop "hey, i like NIN because they're so dark" school kiddie.
I listen to Coltrane, Monk, Charlie Parker, and whatever else is good, up to and including some new stuff...Beck, Pavement, Radiohead...and yes, dear god, a little techno. Why, because it's good. Unlike others who got the Best of MTV Unplugged album to add to their awe inspiringly large Marylin Manson collection, when i say i listen to everything...I mean i listen to everything good. Not schlock that people put up on their fucking free "hey we'll give a web page to anyone" mp3.com site.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
everything non-sedintary is dying. Foosball, Pinball, Table Tennis, you name it. All the fun games we grew up with are being replaced by Q3A and UT. It kinda sucks...i always thought computer games were a very good suppliment, but *definitely* not a replacement.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
Please, before deciding how poorly an OS is going to do, learn what it does.
I'm not going to deny that OS X is a good OS. From what i've heard and read, it's going to be quite a good one at that. I have a friend who's huge into Macs..i get quite a bit of info from him. But to tell me to predict what's going to happen with the OS market based solely on what a bunch of CS guys (at one of the top CS schools in the country) think of the OS is slightly naieve.
The general public doesn't give a shit about what goes into their OS. As i mentioned in my previous post, Joe User likes window because it's frighteningly easy to use. Joe Hacker likes windows because it's got quite a bit of depth. OS X may have these things, but unless it's ported to intel quickly, it's not going to do for the industry what some Mac zealots think it will.
I know what OS X is. But i'm also a student of the way things *are* - and Apple isn't going to be the next Microsoft. Apple was the latest, greatest thing back in 1984. Things have changed. People have begun to think different;-)
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
This article is a bit amusing, but nothing more. A scenario dreamt up by some guy who was thinking "hey, what if." - I'm sure if you check everything he's ever written, there's probably a "what if we killed hitler" essay in there somewhere.
First off, MacOS is dying. Sorry guys, but that's the simple fact. I applaud the Mac user base for sticking with it. I used to be a mac guy myself, then a windows guy (shortly), and now a linux/bsd guy. But there are limits to how much one OS can take, and do. While we can sit and quibble about the specifics and the logistics of the OS, one can't deny that unless OS X is to operating systems what the original Voodoo was to graphics cards...there's not going to be much for Mac except the hardcore userbase, the graphics market, and...well...that's about it.
As for Micros~1 Winders. First of all, even a fast track to the supreme court and everything going against MS probably wouldn't see them broken up untill 2002 or possibly even later. And that's *WITH* everything going wrong for them. A lot can happen in that amount of time. OS X will be out, and most likely *not* on the intel platform. (Remember one of the things that really hurt apple was their refusal to let clones be manufactured.) - They could have done that long ago...hindsight is always 20/20.
Finally, your proposal of where linux is going is pretty off the wall. While most people don't like the command line (i'll certainly agree that joe user doesn't), Window managers such as GNOME and KDE can very easily replace that. Currently, if a user doesn't want to touch a command line using one of the WM's then they don't have to...in a year or two, i expect that Linux will be very easy to use...if you want it to be.
Here's my scenario - see if you can follow. MacOS is older than Windows - the reason people jumped ship (eventually at least) is because of the depth of the OS. Sure MacOS is better for joe user because it's simple. There's one mouse button...but there really isn't a hell of a lot of hacking that can be done aside from maybe resedit:) - Next, you've got the OS that "replaced" it, or "defeated" it or what have you...Windows. Why? Because it was very easy to use, but there was also a lot of depth, at least a lot more than with MacOS. Joe User had no problem just clicking on stuff, while the developers and geeks out there could really sink their teeth into it (at least much more so than with MacOS). Now, we've got this crazy new OS..."well honey, i think it's called Linux." It's easy to use, with GNOME or KDE, the end user really doesn't have to figure out why or how it works, they just know they can double click on an icon to get online. But here's the part that's really cool - it's REALLY in depth, and it's YOURS!!! Geeks and hackers and developers, and even just the curious can really get under the hood to see what's going on. And that's the best part! You see the trend here. MacOS took computers and made them easy to use, and slightly technical. Windows made them even easier, and even more technical. Linux is taking both of those concepts one step further. Which OS is going to dominate in years to come???
I suppose the years to come will let us know.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
i just read a post about people mimicking "natural" models...kinda makes sense when you think that nature has beeng figuring shit out for a few billion years now:)
on the off-topic side. interesting fact is that there is no known cure for a single virus on the face of this earth. Sure, we have vaccines and such (we even have a drug coctail that will prevent you from getting aids - although no one in their right mind would want to use it due to the side effects), but there isn't a single cure for a virus...why do you think people still get colds?
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
this has been around for a while
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I remember when i got my IBM Craptiva (ooh - did i just violate UCITA?) I got a windows disk with it. Then i come to find out that in order for the disk to work, it verifies that the bios from the box i was using is the same as the one registered on the disk. FUUUUUUUUUUCK THAT!!!!
I don't think there's any way that this can be legal. When you buy a compact disk, you're not just purchasing a "license" to listen to the music, you're buying that piece of music. It's yours. If software licensing changes this...then all those used CD stores are fucked as well, in addition to, of course, the used software stores. (even computer renaisance?).
Basically...consumers are quickly being driven to one of three choices. 1)Blatantly break the law. 2)Vote with your pocket books, or 3) Put up with it.
I myself plan to do both 1 and 2. I'm just afraid the average computer user isn't going to realize they got bitch-slapped by companies like Adobe and MICROS~1 untill it's too late.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
For an internet based standard (i.e. TCP/IP) - you pretty much have to go by cooperation. Since the internet was pretty small when it started (read: DARPANET, etc.) and sort of grew into an agregate of individual networks, it was pretty easy for everyone to comply. Now, if you don't abide by the TCP/IP protocols that just about everyone uses on the net, you don't get on the net:-) It's pretty easy to enforce something that has absolutely no reason not to be used. Otherwise, the best way to figure out the standards on the net are, of course, to read all of the RFC's out there. There really is no "enforcement" of these, per se...but they're used because they're good.
As far as a business is concerned, well that's a whole different bag of tricks. Standards, unfortunately, for any size company are going to have to be monitored by individuals...details would be, of course, different from situation to situation. While this works for small companies, large companies will have to figure out how best to utilize manpower to make sure that what works best is actually being implemented.
The best rule of thumb, as far as i'm concerned, is don't standardize something that no one is going to/want to use....anything is enforceable so long as people say "hey...that's a good idea." but you're going to have a hell of a time if everyone is rebelling.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
i know for every trademark dispute, someone says this...but here we go again
in order for napster to keep its trademars in place..they have to do shit like this. If they don't, the trademarks go bye bye. I don't think napster is really evil in this respect. But they *ARE* a company looking to make money, whether or not what you think they're doing is good.
anonymous ftp, the latest in mp3 sharing technology!
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
this book appears to have been ghostwritten by Ralph Nader. From what i'm reading the whole thing seems to be a sheep in wolve's clothing (i.e. - just the same old fruit cake, just rewrapped and sent back to the same people).
The ideas we're seeing here aren't really new (when taken as a whole). Love your environment and all will be well. The problem is that this has nothing to do with capitalism. The governement should be regulating pollution causing industries with an ever increasingly strong grip, however, that has nothing to do with basic economics. This book seems to be trying to develop a symmetry between apples and oranges(pardon the cliche). Oh well. If this is how the "green party" and its cohorts are trying to break into the main stream, they'll have to find something a little more clever next time.
I'm not trying to say that i hate the environment. Not by any means, i'm actually more of a radical in that sense...but i equate this book to a situation where you're drinking a coffee on the street and some guys yells "We can drink coffee *AND* be in perfect harmony with mother earth!" - you'd be thinking the same thing i'm thinking about this review ("what the fuck?!?!")
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
what exactly defines an operating system? Is it the software? is it the applications? something more abstract?
You argue that IE is not a part of Windows. My argument is that it doesn't necessarily *have* to not be. With the immensely increasing popularity of the internet, one could successfully argue that one distinct feature of their os is the inherent ability to allow you browse the internet. You can't really say that this is *not* a part of an OS.
just my.02 - that make.04. If we keep this thread up for a while we'll have a dollar.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
I am by no means defending microsoft here (much), but i have to say that much of this appears to be off-the-hook.
As far as microsoft's "integration" of a web browser into their operating system. I don't believe this is a valid excuse to break up the empire. In many respects, integration is a benefit to the consumer. (While IE may not be the best implementation) I don't believe that you can honestly say that this is a valid monopolistic practice. No one is forcing the consumer to use IE, they're just making it slightly more convenient, and everpresent. If i don't want to use IE (assuming i would use windows for anything other than a few games), then I can just opt not to click on that little blue E.
As far as monopolistic business practices otherwise. Would you step to the front of the room please if you would have done any different (open source developers, you don't count because you're not entirely greedy:P ) The point is that M$ followed valid business practices. While some of these may have been a little shady (such as altering some industry standards to make them proprietary), none of these practices are illegal.
The point i'm trying to make is that, rather than bitch about how windows is a monopoly and begging the government to do something about it. Let's follow the examples of people like Linus, or organizations like GNOME. Time to stop complaining and just make something undeniably better. MS gets to stay intact, albeit smaller. The product that's the best wins...then we all win.
"Your post sucks! Microsoft doesn't play fair! Fuck you" you say. Sorry, but now you're talking about morality (i.e. - what responsability does a company have to the consumer, morally). Unfortunately, if you pull that card, you've already lost the argument. Microsoft didn't become the company it is today because it played "fair" and it certainly didn't become the most popular OS in the world because it sucked. Make something better! (retrospectively - thank you linus)
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
BTW - i'll be open sourcing my ass next week for all of you who'd like to get a look at it. I figure if i get enough venture capital and go IPO/Open-Source with it, i'll be able to make millions off it. (Yes, that's pronounced GNU/Ass)
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
you're forgetting one thing. much like microsoft installs it's own proprietary shit and basically forces it down people's throats, we're coming to this in the linux world now too. "You need the GNOME libs for this program" or that program, or whatever. Choice is rapidly becoming necessity:(
More and more programs are going to rely on GNOME to supply something and that's where it gets hairy. It comes down to either use GNOME because it's got a lot of shit writen for it, or use the CLI or blackbox or E and suffer the consequences for not using the window manager that everyone else is using, and more importantly, coding for.
Oh well, c'est la vie. I still have my guitar.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
i just think it's ironic how alot of people talk about the inevetable death of microsoft, etc. etc.
It seems to me that GNOME is just another step in the total GUIness of linux. Sure it's nice, it can do alot of stuff for you, but it's a huge resource hog, and all in all, it seems to me to be reminiscent of some of the bloat that i switched to linux to get away from.
that being said. it does look pretty fucking cool:)
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
I think the principle that people are missing is that, all things being equal, a bug/security hole is going to be found a LOT quicker by examining the source than by simply using the program.
I used to think that security through obscurity was a valid security model, reasoning that so long as no one knew how or why something was built, at least in source terms, than it would be better for everyone. A person can't exploit something they don't know is there. The largest problem with the obscurity model is the fact there *are* people who just look for exploits. they get home from work/school and hack away at these utilities. By not allowing the source to be released, and scrutinized, you're going to see bug-fixes arrive later than they should, you're going to see exploits that go for months/years completely unpatched. This makes for all around buggier programs, and, by inference, more exploitable programs.
Open source is by no means the best practice in some specific situations (at least right now). There are other factors than just bugginess and exploitability that software manufac's take into account. But in *general*, the open source model is much more effecient and robust than the *alternative*
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
still waiting for the new JavaCam 2000 It does your laundry, feeds your dog, takes insanely good video with no camera-shake...and it gives really good head
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
return(value); has many uses. first off, you can use a return value to tell you where your program died. If you're wanting to "debug" the binary so to speak. Secondly, it's used to explicitly return control to the calling function (in this case return control to the OS/Shell). It's just sort of a "best practice" - Like using the close() function in PERL, even though PERL closes files upon finishing. however, in this case, the dostuff() function more than likely incorporates all of that itself.
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
we must keep our children from this post. while reading it i laughed so hard i started choking on a mixture of "french chips" and coke. holy shit this post is funny!
FluX After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
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Mac percentage? Actually, mac has had about %7 of the market for the longest time...personally, i don't see them going anywhere fast. %7 is MacOS's niche. it won't go up...it won't go down. It'll just sit there. (Did anyone forget to mention that Linux now has almost exactly the same market share on the desktop.)
As for your musicians "music." I'm a musician as well. I play Guitar, Bass, and have been know to touch drums as well. While i also screw around with stuff made by Rolland or even software like Rebirth, don't *EVER* accuse me of being some techno, trip-hop "hey, i like NIN because they're so dark" school kiddie.
I listen to Coltrane, Monk, Charlie Parker, and whatever else is good, up to and including some new stuff...Beck, Pavement, Radiohead...and yes, dear god, a little techno. Why, because it's good. Unlike others who got the Best of MTV Unplugged album to add to their awe inspiringly large Marylin Manson collection, when i say i listen to everything...I mean i listen to everything good. Not schlock that people put up on their fucking free "hey we'll give a web page to anyone" mp3.com site.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
everything non-sedintary is dying. Foosball, Pinball, Table Tennis, you name it. All the fun games we grew up with are being replaced by Q3A and UT. It kinda sucks...i always thought computer games were a very good suppliment, but *definitely* not a replacement.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
i was listening to some of your tracks. is experimental a synonym for crap? you know like "this music sucks, but it's cool cuz it's experimental."
Apple ought to grow until it's maybe 20% or 30% of the market. Maybe 40% max.
It's obvious from your comments and your music that you have done smoked yo-self retarded!
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
Please, before deciding how poorly an OS is going to do, learn what it does.
;-)
I'm not going to deny that OS X is a good OS. From what i've heard and read, it's going to be quite a good one at that. I have a friend who's huge into Macs..i get quite a bit of info from him. But to tell me to predict what's going to happen with the OS market based solely on what a bunch of CS guys (at one of the top CS schools in the country) think of the OS is slightly naieve.
The general public doesn't give a shit about what goes into their OS. As i mentioned in my previous post, Joe User likes window because it's frighteningly easy to use. Joe Hacker likes windows because it's got quite a bit of depth. OS X may have these things, but unless it's ported to intel quickly, it's not going to do for the industry what some Mac zealots think it will.
I know what OS X is. But i'm also a student of the way things *are* - and Apple isn't going to be the next Microsoft. Apple was the latest, greatest thing back in 1984. Things have changed. People have begun to think different
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
This article is a bit amusing, but nothing more. A scenario dreamt up by some guy who was thinking "hey, what if." - I'm sure if you check everything he's ever written, there's probably a "what if we killed hitler" essay in there somewhere.
:) - Next, you've got the OS that "replaced" it, or "defeated" it or what have you...Windows. Why? Because it was very easy to use, but there was also a lot of depth, at least a lot more than with MacOS. Joe User had no problem just clicking on stuff, while the developers and geeks out there could really sink their teeth into it (at least much more so than with MacOS). Now, we've got this crazy new OS..."well honey, i think it's called Linux." It's easy to use, with GNOME or KDE, the end user really doesn't have to figure out why or how it works, they just know they can double click on an icon to get online. But here's the part that's really cool - it's REALLY in depth, and it's YOURS!!! Geeks and hackers and developers, and even just the curious can really get under the hood to see what's going on. And that's the best part! You see the trend here. MacOS took computers and made them easy to use, and slightly technical. Windows made them even easier, and even more technical. Linux is taking both of those concepts one step further. Which OS is going to dominate in years to come???
First off, MacOS is dying. Sorry guys, but that's the simple fact. I applaud the Mac user base for sticking with it. I used to be a mac guy myself, then a windows guy (shortly), and now a linux/bsd guy. But there are limits to how much one OS can take, and do. While we can sit and quibble about the specifics and the logistics of the OS, one can't deny that unless OS X is to operating systems what the original Voodoo was to graphics cards...there's not going to be much for Mac except the hardcore userbase, the graphics market, and...well...that's about it.
As for Micros~1 Winders. First of all, even a fast track to the supreme court and everything going against MS probably wouldn't see them broken up untill 2002 or possibly even later. And that's *WITH* everything going wrong for them. A lot can happen in that amount of time. OS X will be out, and most likely *not* on the intel platform. (Remember one of the things that really hurt apple was their refusal to let clones be manufactured.) - They could have done that long ago...hindsight is always 20/20.
Finally, your proposal of where linux is going is pretty off the wall. While most people don't like the command line (i'll certainly agree that joe user doesn't), Window managers such as GNOME and KDE can very easily replace that. Currently, if a user doesn't want to touch a command line using one of the WM's then they don't have to...in a year or two, i expect that Linux will be very easy to use...if you want it to be.
Here's my scenario - see if you can follow. MacOS is older than Windows - the reason people jumped ship (eventually at least) is because of the depth of the OS. Sure MacOS is better for joe user because it's simple. There's one mouse button...but there really isn't a hell of a lot of hacking that can be done aside from maybe resedit
I suppose the years to come will let us know.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
i just read a post about people mimicking "natural" models...kinda makes sense when you think that nature has beeng figuring shit out for a few billion years now :)
on the off-topic side. interesting fact is that there is no known cure for a single virus on the face of this earth. Sure, we have vaccines and such (we even have a drug coctail that will prevent you from getting aids - although no one in their right mind would want to use it due to the side effects), but there isn't a single cure for a virus...why do you think people still get colds?
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
I remember when i got my IBM Craptiva (ooh - did i just violate UCITA?) I got a windows disk with it. Then i come to find out that in order for the disk to work, it verifies that the bios from the box i was using is the same as the one registered on the disk. FUUUUUUUUUUCK THAT!!!!
I don't think there's any way that this can be legal. When you buy a compact disk, you're not just purchasing a "license" to listen to the music, you're buying that piece of music. It's yours. If software licensing changes this...then all those used CD stores are fucked as well, in addition to, of course, the used software stores. (even computer renaisance?).
Basically...consumers are quickly being driven to one of three choices. 1)Blatantly break the law. 2)Vote with your pocket books, or 3) Put up with it.
I myself plan to do both 1 and 2. I'm just afraid the average computer user isn't going to realize they got bitch-slapped by companies like Adobe and MICROS~1 untill it's too late.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
ohhh...you lookey like good ac! me want kaama fo yoo.
come on baby! modelate me up...make me feel so good....me post fo yoo, post loong time!!!!
now THAT is karma whoring!
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
For an internet based standard (i.e. TCP/IP) - you pretty much have to go by cooperation. Since the internet was pretty small when it started (read: DARPANET, etc.) and sort of grew into an agregate of individual networks, it was pretty easy for everyone to comply. Now, if you don't abide by the TCP/IP protocols that just about everyone uses on the net, you don't get on the net :-) It's pretty easy to enforce something that has absolutely no reason not to be used. Otherwise, the best way to figure out the standards on the net are, of course, to read all of the RFC's out there. There really is no "enforcement" of these, per se...but they're used because they're good.
As far as a business is concerned, well that's a whole different bag of tricks. Standards, unfortunately, for any size company are going to have to be monitored by individuals...details would be, of course, different from situation to situation. While this works for small companies, large companies will have to figure out how best to utilize manpower to make sure that what works best is actually being implemented.
The best rule of thumb, as far as i'm concerned, is don't standardize something that no one is going to/want to use....anything is enforceable so long as people say "hey...that's a good idea." but you're going to have a hell of a time if everyone is rebelling.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
i know for every trademark dispute, someone says this...but here we go again
in order for napster to keep its trademars in place..they have to do shit like this. If they don't, the trademarks go bye bye. I don't think napster is really evil in this respect. But they *ARE* a company looking to make money, whether or not what you think they're doing is good.
anonymous ftp, the latest in mp3 sharing technology!
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
this book appears to have been ghostwritten by Ralph Nader. From what i'm reading the whole thing seems to be a sheep in wolve's clothing (i.e. - just the same old fruit cake, just rewrapped and sent back to the same people).
The ideas we're seeing here aren't really new (when taken as a whole). Love your environment and all will be well. The problem is that this has nothing to do with capitalism. The governement should be regulating pollution causing industries with an ever increasingly strong grip, however, that has nothing to do with basic economics. This book seems to be trying to develop a symmetry between apples and oranges(pardon the cliche). Oh well. If this is how the "green party" and its cohorts are trying to break into the main stream, they'll have to find something a little more clever next time.
I'm not trying to say that i hate the environment. Not by any means, i'm actually more of a radical in that sense...but i equate this book to a situation where you're drinking a coffee on the street and some guys yells "We can drink coffee *AND* be in perfect harmony with mother earth!" - you'd be thinking the same thing i'm thinking about this review ("what the fuck?!?!")
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
this is a knife.
:)
meteorite knife?? that sounds somewhat gimmicky. maybe for cutlery buffs. but i'll take a spyderco any day
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
sounds like some moderators read your post. heheh
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
In that situation...i believe that Joe Q. Public deserves the crappy computer and the fridge he got.
If you don't look to see what else is out there...that's your fault, not the maker's.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
what exactly defines an operating system? Is it the software? is it the applications? something more abstract?
.02 - that make .04. If we keep this thread up for a while we'll have a dollar.
You argue that IE is not a part of Windows. My argument is that it doesn't necessarily *have* to not be. With the immensely increasing popularity of the internet, one could successfully argue that one distinct feature of their os is the inherent ability to allow you browse the internet. You can't really say that this is *not* a part of an OS.
just my
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
The point i'm trying to make is that, rather than bitch about how windows is a monopoly and begging the government to do something about it. Let's follow the examples of people like Linus, or organizations like GNOME. Time to stop complaining and just make something undeniably better. MS gets to stay intact, albeit smaller. The product that's the best wins...then we all win.
"Your post sucks! Microsoft doesn't play fair! Fuck you" you say. Sorry, but now you're talking about morality (i.e. - what responsability does a company have to the consumer, morally). Unfortunately, if you pull that card, you've already lost the argument. Microsoft didn't become the company it is today because it played "fair" and it certainly didn't become the most popular OS in the world because it sucked. Make something better! (retrospectively - thank you linus)
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
"daddy, there's a dinosaur in our backyard..."
"...and the neighbor's back yard, and our other neighbor's back yard, and..."
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
this is so trendy it's pathetic.
BTW - i'll be open sourcing my ass next week for all of you who'd like to get a look at it. I figure if i get enough venture capital and go IPO/Open-Source with it, i'll be able to make millions off it. (Yes, that's pronounced GNU/Ass)
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
you're forgetting one thing. much like microsoft installs it's own proprietary shit and basically forces it down people's throats, we're coming to this in the linux world now too. "You need the GNOME libs for this program" or that program, or whatever. Choice is rapidly becoming necessity :(
More and more programs are going to rely on GNOME to supply something and that's where it gets hairy. It comes down to either use GNOME because it's got a lot of shit writen for it, or use the CLI or blackbox or E and suffer the consequences for not using the window manager that everyone else is using, and more importantly, coding for.
Oh well, c'est la vie. I still have my guitar.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
i just think it's ironic how alot of people talk about the inevetable death of microsoft, etc. etc.
:)
It seems to me that GNOME is just another step in the total GUIness of linux. Sure it's nice, it can do alot of stuff for you, but it's a huge resource hog, and all in all, it seems to me to be reminiscent of some of the bloat that i switched to linux to get away from.
that being said. it does look pretty fucking cool
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
I think the principle that people are missing is that, all things being equal, a bug/security hole is going to be found a LOT quicker by examining the source than by simply using the program.
I used to think that security through obscurity was a valid security model, reasoning that so long as no one knew how or why something was built, at least in source terms, than it would be better for everyone. A person can't exploit something they don't know is there. The largest problem with the obscurity model is the fact there *are* people who just look for exploits. they get home from work/school and hack away at these utilities. By not allowing the source to be released, and scrutinized, you're going to see bug-fixes arrive later than they should, you're going to see exploits that go for months/years completely unpatched. This makes for all around buggier programs, and, by inference, more exploitable programs.
Open source is by no means the best practice in some specific situations (at least right now). There are other factors than just bugginess and exploitability that software manufac's take into account. But in *general*, the open source model is much more effecient and robust than the *alternative*
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
some guys probably just got together and recorded this insane wino from the alley behind my house. All fucking day he goes on with this shit
"one, four, twenty, bhgrrarg" (he usually seizures for a minute or two)"fifteen, three..."
Sometimes he does it in french. i think he was in the war
"quatre, dix, vingt..."
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
it doesn't leave your dishes spot free.
still waiting for the new JavaCam 2000
It does your laundry, feeds your dog, takes insanely good video with no camera-shake...and it gives really good head
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
return(value);
has many uses. first off, you can use a return value to tell you where your program died. If you're wanting to "debug" the binary so to speak. Secondly, it's used to explicitly return control to the calling function (in this case return control to the OS/Shell). It's just sort of a "best practice" - Like using the close() function in PERL, even though PERL closes files upon finishing. however, in this case, the dostuff() function more than likely incorporates all of that itself.
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
we must keep our children from this post. while reading it i laughed so hard i started choking on a mixture of "french chips" and coke. holy shit this post is funny!
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After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network