3DFX did deliver great GPU's to the market. When I finally upgraded from the Voodoo3 to the GeForce 4 ti (several generations beyond the voodoo3), that Voodoo *still* kicked its ass in multi-texturing fill rate.
Make what you want of that, but I say that 3DFX went under because of mismanagement, and not because the company couldn't deliver a great product. The company did in fact deliver a great product, right up to the end.
Why would one offer them 100 mio for it if it's so worthless, for one.
Lets suppose it has 5 million users worldwide. Thats $20 per person. Thats not fucking bad, considering (A) you just purchased their eyeballs (the actual product of all social network businesses), and (B) you have their location.
What is a local television station worth? This service has all the advantages of local advertising markets, but with a global advertising infrastructure.
Did you think the offer was for their IP?
The IP isnt their product. Their product is users, and they rent them to advertisers.
While you are doing your rapid research into the matter in order to reply with more alarmist stuff, I think that you are going to find that you were terribly mistaken about the "long term" effects of those two bombs.
I did say that they dont attack quite the same problem, right? In BOTH posts? Thats TWICE I said it, right? right?
You sir are an idiot for not realizing that the current generation of stream processors is not equivalent to data parallel, ala SIMD... thats what it was about 10 years ago.. thats not what it is today. These things perform concurrent execution, not just data parallel stuff.
Instead you claim that 35% of gamers haven't purchase a new machine this year because... you don't think they have? I'm not sure about the average replacement time for gaming machines, but 3 years doesn't sound terribly far fetched.
No, sir. Steam users are not replacing their machines at the rate you imagine in this economy, but they ARE buying windows 7.
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Your google skills fail, or you are a liar.
Hey idiot.... hes telling the truth... you cant just copy mp3's to an ipod and expect them to play..
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Can you get developer tools from Microsoft for free like you can with Apple?
Seriously? Are you really asking this? Not only can you get Microsoft developer tools for free, more that a couple Microsoft compilers are installed by default on Vista/7 and are delivered to XP with service pack 2.
Now I have to go check your other claims, because if you can be so wrong about this one.. while posting on slashdot.. then who the hell knows how much shit your are trying to throw.
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Applesoft Basic was written by Microsoft... in fact.. almost every Basic (ROM's and otherwise) of the era was written by Microsoft.
Massive concurrency is had via OpenCL/CUDA/DirectCompute/...
Thats what you have missed in my argument. It is that people dont want to use a different language. They want to use the language they already use. Look at that.. plenty of C++ CUDA development.. oh, and C# CUDA development.. oh, and PYTHON CUDA development.. oh, and FORTRAN CUDA development.
The same is true for OpenCL.
Massive concurrency without dealing with the "problems" (memory models? execution semantics? please.) that you have imagined. As far as Simulink.. umm.. hello? Simulink has very little to do with implementing practical massive concurrency. OpenCL is doing it right now. CUDA is doing it right now. Very few are using custom languages or entire frameworks to get their concurrency.
They are using class libraries like OpenCL, CUDA, and DirectCompute. Thats the reality of the situation. Yes, it doesnt attack quite the same problem as Go, but the reality is also that people dont need to attack that problem, nor do they even have the resources to make Go advantageous, nor do their customers.
Go will fail precisely because other solutions exist that don't require adopting a pet language.
The rise of Win7 can be explained by computer sales.
On the steam survey, Win7/64 is already at 24.42% and Win7/32 is at 11.25%. You would have to believe that 35% of gamers have purchased a new machine, this year, in order to buy the crap you are selling....
It is undeniable that Win7 is moving at the retailer. We are talking about the largest software pre-order in history here. Millions of copies sold on the first day of release, and has been averaging 10 million per month. Did you not know these things before you decided to talk out your ass?
Go's fault is in trying to be a language instead of a class library for other languages.
As far as "highly concurrent".. there is ANOTHER movement in that area that is really taking off: stream processing.
While not attacking quite the same problem space, its attacking the one that matters most for most people. These libraries provide immediate advantages even on single systems.
Delphi, as with Pascal before it, is strong tho. Really.
The language just doesnt dominate a domain. C dominates on the low level, C and Java dominate embedded devices, C++ dominates application space, Java dominates the enterprise. VBA dominates the accounting department.
Delphi doesnt dominate anything, but its got its hands in all of it.
Languages that are more popular in business is really the only definition that matters.
If it is advantageous to use the language, then businesses will use it. If its not advantageous to use the language, then its just some minor obscurity that doesn't really mean shit.
These ranking have been under-representing Java, VB/VBA, and Python for years.
It needs to be pointed out that Massachusetts politicians have voted down in-state casinos several times in the past decade.
It isnt that the people don't want it.. it is because in neighboring Connecticut there are two casinos that happen to be THE LARGEST, AND MOST PROFITABLE, CASINOS IN THE COUNTRY.
These casinos are Foxwoods and the Mohegan Sun, which drag in a billion dollars a year each, in profits. These two casinos "spend" a lot of money making sure that no other casinos open up in the area.
There are two other casinos in the area, Twin Rivers in Rhode Island and Turning Stone in New York.
Combined, these casinos generate a lot of "grease the palms" pressure that keeps out other area casinos in Massachusetts while also generating laws that prohibit other competitive gambling venues.
Massachusetts will pass this law, but not actually allow casinos to be built in the state. The state is surrounded by casinos that will stop at nothing to prevent them being built. Mark my words.
For the record, every "tea bagger" that I know personally is a libertarian and thus does not benefit by swapping democrats for republicans. One of them is very active in the movement and runs a weekly radio show (called Tea Party Radio), organizes discussion groups, and has a very popular book club (called Freedom is Fundamental.)
I really think that it is YOU, sir, that are wearing welding glasses. YOU sir seem to think that the Tea Party movement is a centralized republican movement, when the reality, sir, is that its run by a disjoint mishmash of very alarmed people with no direct affiliations to this imaginary republican central command that you think exists.
I can tell that you are full of shit because you go "they", "they", and "they." You do that because you dont actually know anything. Can't even name a single person. Not a single person, sir.
Memory management is only trivial in trivial programs. I guess thats what you work on.
Try working in a team on a monolith sometime, and you can bet your ass that you wished the language was GC'd, because otherwise you dont know jack about whats going on memory-wise without a very extensive review.
Evidence: Firefox
The memory leaks were so bad that they had to write memory leak detection routines to pinpoint the problems for them, and it STILL leaks memory to this day.
At one point, you see a guy with what looks like an RPG-7 in the street, walking towards the buildings.
Now think about this. Enemies with AK47's and RPG's in the area.. and maybe the guy you know had an RPG-7 would have had to make a mad dash to get to where you see a guy with something shoulder mounted, apparently edging the building to keep the gunship in view.. with that group of AK47 guys..
is it the same guy, who made the mad dash? is it a different guy, but also with an RPG? is it a different guy, with something else?
The reporters were hanging out with men that had weapons, with an opposing gunship in the air right there. Is it really so surprising that they got caught up in the middle of it? Maybe it wasn't obvious to them that they were on what amounted to the front lines, but they were.
It wasn't just one person with a gun. Another had what was believed to be an RPG (the pilot or gunner said as much) and was positioning to fire at the helicopter (the pilot or gunner said as much.)
(I've seen the video)
I see no evidence to suggest that what I saw wasn't an RPG (sure looked like it) and it definitely wasn't one of the two reporters holding it (the video makes an effort to highlight the reporters when on screen.) The guy who carried it had it propped up on his shoulder and was edging the corner of the building, keeping the gunship in his sights, pointing it what appeared to be AT the gunship.
In light of this new information that you did not have, NOW what do you think about the use of a gunship, and the order to go ahead and fire?
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3DFX did deliver great GPU's to the market. When I finally upgraded from the Voodoo3 to the GeForce 4 ti (several generations beyond the voodoo3), that Voodoo *still* kicked its ass in multi-texturing fill rate.
Make what you want of that, but I say that 3DFX went under because of mismanagement, and not because the company couldn't deliver a great product. The company did in fact deliver a great product, right up to the end.
Why is it on Jupiter?
Why would one offer them 100 mio for it if it's so worthless, for one.
Lets suppose it has 5 million users worldwide. Thats $20 per person. Thats not fucking bad, considering (A) you just purchased their eyeballs (the actual product of all social network businesses), and (B) you have their location.
What is a local television station worth? This service has all the advantages of local advertising markets, but with a global advertising infrastructure.
Did you think the offer was for their IP?
The IP isnt their product. Their product is users, and they rent them to advertisers.
Really shouldn't the Operating System be using hardware rendering for graphics calls?
Yes, thats exactly what the web needs. Operating System Specific issues that effect all browsers.
.. ummm... yeah... right... dummy.
Then the cry for "they should change the OS rendering to match web standards!!!!"
Define long term.
While you are doing your rapid research into the matter in order to reply with more alarmist stuff, I think that you are going to find that you were terribly mistaken about the "long term" effects of those two bombs.
One is a subset of the other, dumbshit.
I did say that they dont attack quite the same problem, right? In BOTH posts? Thats TWICE I said it, right? right?
You sir are an idiot for not realizing that the current generation of stream processors is not equivalent to data parallel, ala SIMD... thats what it was about 10 years ago.. thats not what it is today. These things perform concurrent execution, not just data parallel stuff.
Instead you claim that 35% of gamers haven't purchase a new machine this year because... you don't think they have? I'm not sure about the average replacement time for gaming machines, but 3 years doesn't sound terribly far fetched.
If you don't understand the gravity of your error in assuming a 3 year upgrade cycle, you can take a look at their survey instead of talking out your ass. There is no way that they have such a cycle. You are claiming that they "upgrade" their machine by buying similar hardware. For instance, CPU's from the same manfacturer operating at the same frequency and with the same number of cores and with the same video cards.
No, sir. Steam users are not replacing their machines at the rate you imagine in this economy, but they ARE buying windows 7.
Your google skills fail, or you are a liar.
Hey idiot.... hes telling the truth... you cant just copy mp3's to an ipod and expect them to play..
Can you get developer tools from Microsoft for free like you can with Apple?
Seriously? Are you really asking this? Not only can you get Microsoft developer tools for free, more that a couple Microsoft compilers are installed by default on Vista/7 and are delivered to XP with service pack 2.
Now I have to go check your other claims, because if you can be so wrong about this one.. while posting on slashdot.. then who the hell knows how much shit your are trying to throw.
Applesoft Basic was written by Microsoft... in fact.. almost every Basic (ROM's and otherwise) of the era was written by Microsoft.
You seem to be missing it.
Massive concurrency is had via OpenCL/CUDA/DirectCompute/...
Thats what you have missed in my argument. It is that people dont want to use a different language. They want to use the language they already use. Look at that.. plenty of C++ CUDA development.. oh, and C# CUDA development.. oh, and PYTHON CUDA development.. oh, and FORTRAN CUDA development.
The same is true for OpenCL.
Massive concurrency without dealing with the "problems" (memory models? execution semantics? please.) that you have imagined. As far as Simulink.. umm.. hello? Simulink has very little to do with implementing practical massive concurrency. OpenCL is doing it right now. CUDA is doing it right now. Very few are using custom languages or entire frameworks to get their concurrency.
They are using class libraries like OpenCL, CUDA, and DirectCompute. Thats the reality of the situation. Yes, it doesnt attack quite the same problem as Go, but the reality is also that people dont need to attack that problem, nor do they even have the resources to make Go advantageous, nor do their customers.
Go will fail precisely because other solutions exist that don't require adopting a pet language.
Facts not in evidence.
The rise of Win7 can be explained by computer sales.
On the steam survey, Win7/64 is already at 24.42% and Win7/32 is at 11.25%. You would have to believe that 35% of gamers have purchased a new machine, this year, in order to buy the crap you are selling....
It is undeniable that Win7 is moving at the retailer. We are talking about the largest software pre-order in history here. Millions of copies sold on the first day of release, and has been averaging 10 million per month. Did you not know these things before you decided to talk out your ass?
And every single one's philosophy can be summed up as follows: "Fuck you , I got mine."
My philosophy is simple: Obey the fucking constitution, assholes. If you don't like it, change it. Thats why we can change it, assholes.
Go's fault is in trying to be a language instead of a class library for other languages.
.. there is ANOTHER movement in that area that is really taking off: stream processing.
As far as "highly concurrent"
While not attacking quite the same problem space, its attacking the one that matters most for most people. These libraries provide immediate advantages even on single systems.
But if you meant better than C for systems programming, I don't believe such a language exists.
Its called Assembly.
Delphi, as with Pascal before it, is strong tho. Really.
The language just doesnt dominate a domain. C dominates on the low level, C and Java dominate embedded devices, C++ dominates application space, Java dominates the enterprise. VBA dominates the accounting department.
Delphi doesnt dominate anything, but its got its hands in all of it.
Languages that are more popular in business is really the only definition that matters.
If it is advantageous to use the language, then businesses will use it. If its not advantageous to use the language, then its just some minor obscurity that doesn't really mean shit.
These ranking have been under-representing Java, VB/VBA, and Python for years.
It needs to be pointed out that Massachusetts politicians have voted down in-state casinos several times in the past decade.
It isnt that the people don't want it.. it is because in neighboring Connecticut there are two casinos that happen to be THE LARGEST, AND MOST PROFITABLE, CASINOS IN THE COUNTRY.
These casinos are Foxwoods and the Mohegan Sun, which drag in a billion dollars a year each, in profits. These two casinos "spend" a lot of money making sure that no other casinos open up in the area.
There are two other casinos in the area, Twin Rivers in Rhode Island and Turning Stone in New York.
Combined, these casinos generate a lot of "grease the palms" pressure that keeps out other area casinos in Massachusetts while also generating laws that prohibit other competitive gambling venues.
Massachusetts will pass this law, but not actually allow casinos to be built in the state. The state is surrounded by casinos that will stop at nothing to prevent them being built. Mark my words.
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For the record, every "tea bagger" that I know personally is a libertarian and thus does not benefit by swapping democrats for republicans. One of them is very active in the movement and runs a weekly radio show (called Tea Party Radio), organizes discussion groups, and has a very popular book club (called Freedom is Fundamental.)
I really think that it is YOU, sir, that are wearing welding glasses. YOU sir seem to think that the Tea Party movement is a centralized republican movement, when the reality, sir, is that its run by a disjoint mishmash of very alarmed people with no direct affiliations to this imaginary republican central command that you think exists.
I can tell that you are full of shit because you go "they", "they", and "they." You do that because you dont actually know anything. Can't even name a single person. Not a single person, sir.
It doesnt sit there spinning when it has nothing better to do?
Are you serious?
Memory management is only trivial in trivial programs. I guess thats what you work on.
Try working in a team on a monolith sometime, and you can bet your ass that you wished the language was GC'd, because otherwise you dont know jack about whats going on memory-wise without a very extensive review.
Evidence: Firefox
The memory leaks were so bad that they had to write memory leak detection routines to pinpoint the problems for them, and it STILL leaks memory to this day.
ALL memory leaks are bugs.
Remember that a program that sits idle 90% of the time, but spends 5% of the time in malloc()...
...will save an effective 25% processor load by doubling the performance of malloc... which means longer battery life, and so forth.
Also, there are plenty of inner loops with malloc in them. Really. Most programs are not optimized, at all.
At one point, you see a guy with what looks like an RPG-7 in the street, walking towards the buildings.
Now think about this. Enemies with AK47's and RPG's in the area.. and maybe the guy you know had an RPG-7 would have had to make a mad dash to get to where you see a guy with something shoulder mounted, apparently edging the building to keep the gunship in view.. with that group of AK47 guys..
is it the same guy, who made the mad dash? is it a different guy, but also with an RPG? is it a different guy, with something else?
The reporters were hanging out with men that had weapons, with an opposing gunship in the air right there. Is it really so surprising that they got caught up in the middle of it? Maybe it wasn't obvious to them that they were on what amounted to the front lines, but they were.
It wasn't just one person with a gun. Another had what was believed to be an RPG (the pilot or gunner said as much) and was positioning to fire at the helicopter (the pilot or gunner said as much.)
(I've seen the video)
I see no evidence to suggest that what I saw wasn't an RPG (sure looked like it) and it definitely wasn't one of the two reporters holding it (the video makes an effort to highlight the reporters when on screen.) The guy who carried it had it propped up on his shoulder and was edging the corner of the building, keeping the gunship in his sights, pointing it what appeared to be AT the gunship.
In light of this new information that you did not have, NOW what do you think about the use of a gunship, and the order to go ahead and fire?
HadAT0? "These are the "raw" station level data used as input to our QC procedure. In reality they are all post-processed to some extent."
THEY put the word raw in quotes, and then explain that it doesnt mean what is traditionally meant.