My my! Our little timothy spent an hour and forty minutes on the phone! SHEESH! That certainly does warrant taking someone's life. I mean, just think- I bet there were people who had to spend *ghasp* 3 HOURS! on the phone! Someone's gotta tell me why this guy isn't dead already! Let me at 'em! Man, I had to wait in line at the store the otherday- anyone want to join me in a mob lynching?!
And such is the wonder known as the plant Cannabis! However, there's no way I'm using hash oil for fuel, that's just evil. Hemp seed oil would work pretty swell though!
The Apple Newton MessagePad 2000 and 2100. I have one, and it works wonderfully. Huge screen, real HWR (not character) recognition, flawless net access. And no hardware buttons.
Someone mod this up, and the other schlepp down. It's too mad/. works like this- the inflammatory goon with misinformation gets up to 4, and the guy with the real info is stuck at 1.
I wouldn't imagine this would suffice. Why?.NET apps likely have to be verified/whateverified through Passport, not just any ol' identification service. While you may have almost-.NET apps using a service like XNS, I would imagine that true.NET apps, ones that can run on Win32 and Linux/Unix would require access to Passport.
but hey, I just want to be able to ssh to/from the sucker and take advantage of the wonderful open-source community.
It seems to me that there are more effective ways of doing this on a PDA, and you even get a full-fledged PDA with it! Psion can do SSH, IIRC. But then again, you wouldn't have the ever-coveted Linux on a PDA bragging rights. Hmmm.
Same deal here. In 1998 I put together a PC for myself for $1000. When I saw the NetWinder, I almost wanted one- after all, I didn't really care about gaming, and just wanted a machine to do various not-terribly-resource-expensive sort of things. However, the NetWinders were, even when they came out, more costly and less powerful. It would've been nice to have a quiet and small machine, but it just didn't seem practical.
That said, I'm finally realizing that dream, and waiting for my iBook to ship, if it ever does...
Thank you! It won't shut up all of the Slashkiddies that blow smoke out of their ass about "Linux internet appliances," but it's good to see someone with the facts.:)
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I like how, for most Americans, only poor people ride the bus. After all, if someone had the money, they'd surely purchase an automobile (hopefully an SUV or some sports car) so they could show everyone!
You must admit it's sad that belief should have anything at all to do with this issue. This is science, not religion. While science isn't infallible, it is our vision of truth, as close as we can get it. It's sad when our society basic it's scientific views on something as meaningless as belief.
Evidence? Bah! Who cares! I have faith that counters the evidence! If I ignore it really hard it'll go away!
It's good too see someone has the good sense to post some evidence on here. Naturally, no one listens to it, here at least. Why listen when we can use such logic as: "But it was cold than usual here yesterday, so global warming must not exist!" or, another favorite: "But cold weather sucks! Global warming isn't happening, but if it was, I welcome it!"
Frankly, I'd have to agree with you. I know everyone loves to bash Jon Katz on here, so it's quite the cliche. I've never read any of his articles, and I know why now. Not clear writing is definately the way to put it.
Almost. It also has to be accessable to me in the US (the Psion Series 7, according to their site), I'd like a little more memory (16M?).
The Series 7 only gets, according to Psion's site, 8.5 hours of battery life. That's pretty nice, but when you're sacrificing *that* much compared to a desktop, it doesn't seem like that much of a gain. My Newton 2000 gets a lot more battery time than that, and excluding the built-in keyboard, doesn't seem to do much more. Not to mention the Series 7 is slower than my Newt.:)
As for the netBook, it just doesn't seem accessable to me. Not only do they not sell them to individuals (as far as I can tell),
Also, it costs almost much as an iBook, and probably as much as an iBook with a HD. The HD would be limited by the fact it'd have to be an IBM MicroDrive.
I'd also need to such a computer run an OS that ran the apps I do- I've not been able to find any indication that a mature version of Linux or any other non-EPOC OS runs on it.
Cool, but not mature enough, I suppose.
And that's one of the biggest reason's I'm buying one! While I prefer Macs, when it comes to a portable computer, I want something that can get good battery life. The iBook has a great battery life (I wish it was more!), but if I could get a StrongARM machine running reasonably fast, with an even better battery life, harddrive and all at a decent price, I most likely would reconsider.
I think it does support your point. I agree- a huge majority of those x86 Linux people out there have some flavor of Windows on another partition, but they seem to be in denial of it. On my G4 (selling it soon to buy an iBook), I have Mac OS X, Mac OS 9.1 and Linux installed. They can co-exist, and there's no reason for them not to!
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I've had a look at F-Script, mostly because it is a Smalltalk-like language that has is closely tied with Cocoa, can interact with Objective-C objects with no problem, and thus has a AppKit binding with Mac OS X. If you have a look at the Array class (in the Users Classes section of the F-Script manual), you'll see the \ method is basically a somewhat-more-sense-making #inject:into: method.
The F-Script example:
{1,2,3,4,5} \ #+
is executed as if it were 1+2+3+4+5 and returns 15.
F-Script is pretty interesting, and looks like a promising alternative to Objective-C, C, and C++ for Mac developers.
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You got it almost right. Simula is missing OO features that are found in Smalltalk. One is, Simula lacks class variables. Relatively minor, and a missing feature in a lot of so-called OO languages.
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A necessary part (as stated by Alan Kay) of OO is that it must support inheritence, or else it's not truly OO. While you may not yourself think it important, it is a vital part of OO.
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Iterators ala C++ and Java are not an inherent weakness of OO language, simply of languages that use them. Smalltalk, the original, fully OO language has nothing like Java/C++ implementors. I don't think you understand the way Ruby interates/enumerates, as it also doesn't have iterators like Java/C++. Things between begin and end in Ruby are first class closures, IIRC.
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I must admit, one of the things I do like about Ruby is it's sensical enumeration/iteration, which really borrows from Smalltalk. C++ and Java with their Iterators, Perl with foreach, Python with for x in... - they all just seem so messy compared to the Smalltalk and Ruby way of doing things.
Your example in Smalltalk:
myList do: [:object | object someMethod ].
It doesn't end there. Smalltalk's Collection classes have a bunch of really cool methods that do various kinds of iteration.
"returns a new collection with the results of sending the #hash message (or in the parlance of other languages, calling a method) to each of the objects in myList."
myList collect: [:object | object hash ].
"returns all objects that are greater than 5. this can be used for anything, not just numbers. returns a collection with all objects that respond with true."
| anArray | "declare a temp. variable"
anArray:= #(1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10). "array literal"
anArray select: [:num | num > 5].
"returns a collection with uppercase characters"
| anArray |
anArray:= #($a $b $C $d $O). "array of characters"
anArray reject: [:aChar | aChar isLowercase].
There are a bunch more, but I would say those are the most common. It just makes for a really clean way to deal with all sorts of collections, and I'm glad to see that Ruby adopted this way (roughly), and didn't stick with the archaic ways found in Perl, Python, C++, and Java.
Heh. I remember people used to have ANSI fancy-pants command prompts in DOS. Why, if you didn't have something aside $p$g, you were totally l4m3, and definately not a k-rad hacker.
Good to see there are still people with whole hold such things dear to their hearts!
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My my! Our little timothy spent an hour and forty minutes on the phone! SHEESH! That certainly does warrant taking someone's life. I mean, just think- I bet there were people who had to spend *ghasp* 3 HOURS! on the phone! Someone's gotta tell me why this guy isn't dead already! Let me at 'em! Man, I had to wait in line at the store the otherday- anyone want to join me in a mob lynching?!
And such is the wonder known as the plant Cannabis! However, there's no way I'm using hash oil for fuel, that's just evil. Hemp seed oil would work pretty swell though!
But honestly, we have to be economical- how about a few drums of hash oil? I mean, we only have so much space!
He won't, naturally, answer to that, because he's right! and that's the end of the story.
The Apple Newton MessagePad 2000 and 2100. I have one, and it works wonderfully. Huge screen, real HWR (not character) recognition, flawless net access. And no hardware buttons.
You can find them here.
Someone mod this up, and the other schlepp down. It's too mad /. works like this- the inflammatory goon with misinformation gets up to 4, and the guy with the real info is stuck at 1.
And that's Microsoft's strategy.
It seems to me that there are more effective ways of doing this on a PDA, and you even get a full-fledged PDA with it! Psion can do SSH, IIRC. But then again, you wouldn't have the ever-coveted Linux on a PDA bragging rights. Hmmm.
Just out of curiousity, where exactly is the fun in retarded trolls?
That said, I'm finally realizing that dream, and waiting for my iBook to ship, if it ever does...
Thank you! It won't shut up all of the Slashkiddies that blow smoke out of their ass about "Linux internet appliances," but it's good to see someone with the facts. :)
I like how, for most Americans, only poor people ride the bus. After all, if someone had the money, they'd surely purchase an automobile (hopefully an SUV or some sports car) so they could show everyone!
Evidence? Bah! Who cares! I have faith that counters the evidence! If I ignore it really hard it'll go away!
It's good too see someone has the good sense to post some evidence on here. Naturally, no one listens to it, here at least. Why listen when we can use such logic as: "But it was cold than usual here yesterday, so global warming must not exist!" or, another favorite: "But cold weather sucks! Global warming isn't happening, but if it was, I welcome it!"
Nevermind science, I'm a product of pop culture! And boy, I sure do like hot weather!
Frankly, I'd have to agree with you. I know everyone loves to bash Jon Katz on here, so it's quite the cliche. I've never read any of his articles, and I know why now. Not clear writing is definately the way to put it.
Almost. It also has to be accessable to me in the US (the Psion Series 7, according to their site), I'd like a little more memory (16M?). The Series 7 only gets, according to Psion's site, 8.5 hours of battery life. That's pretty nice, but when you're sacrificing *that* much compared to a desktop, it doesn't seem like that much of a gain. My Newton 2000 gets a lot more battery time than that, and excluding the built-in keyboard, doesn't seem to do much more. Not to mention the Series 7 is slower than my Newt. :)
As for the netBook, it just doesn't seem accessable to me. Not only do they not sell them to individuals (as far as I can tell),
Also, it costs almost much as an iBook, and probably as much as an iBook with a HD. The HD would be limited by the fact it'd have to be an IBM MicroDrive.
I'd also need to such a computer run an OS that ran the apps I do- I've not been able to find any indication that a mature version of Linux or any other non-EPOC OS runs on it.
Cool, but not mature enough, I suppose.
And that's one of the biggest reason's I'm buying one! While I prefer Macs, when it comes to a portable computer, I want something that can get good battery life. The iBook has a great battery life (I wish it was more!), but if I could get a StrongARM machine running reasonably fast, with an even better battery life, harddrive and all at a decent price, I most likely would reconsider.
I think it does support your point. I agree- a huge majority of those x86 Linux people out there have some flavor of Windows on another partition, but they seem to be in denial of it. On my G4 (selling it soon to buy an iBook), I have Mac OS X, Mac OS 9.1 and Linux installed. They can co-exist, and there's no reason for them not to!
I've had a look at F-Script, mostly because it is a Smalltalk-like language that has is closely tied with Cocoa, can interact with Objective-C objects with no problem, and thus has a AppKit binding with Mac OS X. If you have a look at the Array class (in the Users Classes section of the F-Script manual), you'll see the \ method is basically a somewhat-more-sense-making #inject:into: method.
:subTotal :next | subTotal + next].
The F-Script example:
{1,2,3,4,5} \ #+
is executed as if it were 1+2+3+4+5 and returns 15.
In Smalltalk:
#(1 2 3 4 5) inject: 0 into: [
F-Script is pretty interesting, and looks like a promising alternative to Objective-C, C, and C++ for Mac developers.
You got it almost right. Simula is missing OO features that are found in Smalltalk. One is, Simula lacks class variables. Relatively minor, and a missing feature in a lot of so-called OO languages.
A necessary part (as stated by Alan Kay) of OO is that it must support inheritence, or else it's not truly OO. While you may not yourself think it important, it is a vital part of OO.
Iterators ala C++ and Java are not an inherent weakness of OO language, simply of languages that use them. Smalltalk, the original, fully OO language has nothing like Java/C++ implementors. I don't think you understand the way Ruby interates/enumerates, as it also doesn't have iterators like Java/C++. Things between begin and end in Ruby are first class closures, IIRC.
I must admit, one of the things I do like about Ruby is it's sensical enumeration/iteration, which really borrows from Smalltalk. C++ and Java with their Iterators, Perl with foreach, Python with for x in... - they all just seem so messy compared to the Smalltalk and Ruby way of doing things.
:object | object someMethod ].
:object | object hash ].
:= #(1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10). "array literal"
:num | num > 5].
:= #($a $b $C $d $O). "array of characters"
:aChar | aChar isLowercase].
Your example in Smalltalk:
myList do: [
It doesn't end there. Smalltalk's Collection classes have a bunch of really cool methods that do various kinds of iteration.
"returns a new collection with the results of sending the #hash message (or in the parlance of other languages, calling a method) to each of the objects in myList."
myList collect: [
"returns all objects that are greater than 5. this can be used for anything, not just numbers. returns a collection with all objects that respond with true."
| anArray | "declare a temp. variable"
anArray
anArray select: [
"returns a collection with uppercase characters"
| anArray |
anArray
anArray reject: [
There are a bunch more, but I would say those are the most common. It just makes for a really clean way to deal with all sorts of collections, and I'm glad to see that Ruby adopted this way (roughly), and didn't stick with the archaic ways found in Perl, Python, C++, and Java.
Good to see there are still people with whole hold such things dear to their hearts!