Yeah, they reflexively look at the genre in an ironic way
This is supposed to be clever and origonal
Wes Craven's New nightmare was good and, much as the origonal elm street defined black comedic slashers created a new breed of self refernetial reflexive horror films
The Neverending story did it way before (although the only horror was the kid...)... Nuff said!
But then again I am the person who thought Blair Witch was generic, unscary badly acted tripe. So what would I know
As for Scream 3, it may be a good rflexive slasher, but Elm street 3 was a good slasher, albeit a tired one because it was an old and used formula. From what I have seen I will probably enjoy scream 3 but come out with an empty feeling as if I have seen it all before...
Roll on scream 6 when they parody the parody of media looking at a film of a parody of a horror parody being looked at by the media.
So you didn't notice it, do you think they would advertise the fact in the local paper?
There is a series of villages in almost a circle and near one of the villages is a small military instillation on a hill. Below that was the research facility which went under a couple of the villages. Around the Westerham area.
My father, 30 odd years ago worked in Nuclear weapons research for a year after university.
Every few weeks a russian nuclear warhead would turn up unnanounced outside their office and they would analyse it.
Once he asked how they smuggled it out joking 'Does somebody just walk out with it under their coat.'
The reply was a simple knowing look and then the supervisor walked off...
Scarily to the entire British Nuclear stockpile was held at the base he was at which was a small site near Seven Oaks in Kent which, like all research establishments was only about 2 percent above ground...
Well, they could try to go down the rediculous route they did with cryptography when they made it illegal to import and export crypto software... I think because the technology and concepts are very much in the public domain now they can not stop China et al. from producing clusters.
THey could slap an export restriction on the technology, but that isn't going to have a huge effect.
Ironically enough though although the US isn't allowed to produce any new weapons they are spending billions on making the ones they have more devestating...
Or they could do what they usually do and invade any small countries and attempt to put illegal puppet governments in place...
I agree, information sizes are growing at an inverse rate, although this isn't entirely because of content, I would say mainly through format.
Archiving should be all about finding effecient ways of storing information in retrievable ways for as long as possible
However, archival seems to have become all about storing all the information (take the British Library or Library of congress which can't really keep up with publishing in terms of space and resources...)
Maybe the answer is something like Guttenburg where plain text is used and a fluid medium is used, albeit one which seems to be stable (ie multiple mirrores servers with backup devices)
I think there needs to be a shift in focus from the sheer need to store to the methods of storing and the reasons for storing.
I think the internet is an interesting snapshot of our time, but I think it's transience and fluidity are then things that make it what it is and the things that make archival a difficult process...
Hmm, more thought needed... I would plug my pmployers now as information management and storage is our thing, but that would be crass... (unless anyone in the field of Information storage wants a scholorship, in which case mail me for details.
It just struck me that data storage times seems to be inversely proportional to the level of technology around in the age.
Books can have a life of hundreds, if not thousands of years if treated right. Even with abuse it will survive for years.
There is a problem of obsellescence of language, although usually there is a rosetta stone equivilent
With modern Media technology is progressing so fast in an almost throwaway way. At my previous company we had good backups, but we had no way of accessing them as before we went to DAT and then DLT we didn't actually posess the devices needed to read the tapes and before that disks.
It could be argued that with the internet archiving is going to be more dynamic and fluid, but where does this leave information, and especially information for future generations. It is all well and good moving from teh printed page to the digital page, but in 2000 years time will they be able to revive the contents of a hard disc, will the information on the internet evolved dynamically not leaving a snapshot. Or will they look through the books of our time???
The issue is about censorship and how it affects society.
I'll be the first to admit that I play devils advocate in free speech arguements, but I think this was a good victory and a just one.
The people pushing this campaign were using it as a test bed for others around the states. This was espeially highlighted with the proximity of the presidential compaigns which got rolled into the debate.
I personally live in the UK and the case was in the states. Why does it affect me
Mainly because the US's political hegemony is pretty much global now and if it appeared to be effective in the US then the UK would probably be more inclined to carry out the same processes.
Just because common all garden newspapers don't cater for every trend, demographic and subset of society doesn't mean that they have no use.
If you are going too look at tehm and critisize them on technology and cultural content I think you need include in your comparison the 'newspapers' that cater to the different cliques of society. Take Computer Weekly and Computing in the UK, or Network Week.
These all cover the areas you talk about in some technical depth and are relevant to the people who read them.
Daily NEWSpapers are there to let people know the news of what has happened over th elast day and night from around the world and local.
Personally my mornign starts at work with me reading Slashdot, ZDNet UK News, the Independant website and the BBC news online service. Occasionally I check out the Washington Post, New Your Times, or Ft.COM all online to catch up on different perspectives.
Personally I would prefer to read them in paper format, but I don't have the time in teh mornign to pick them up
You say that newspapers are no longer relevant to culture... I say they are. At various times I have read various papers to get information on various things and it tends to be informative and more trustworthy than web content, biased sure, but there is a higher percentage of BS on th eweb than in the mainstream papers.
I would assert that the papers are here, they perform their function well to the larger part of society and that the assertation that they will be destroyed by the net is akin to the same arguements used when radio and television come about.
I guess it's patent based around process and discovery of process. Much in the same way you can have the madness of naturally occuring genetic material being patented by companies... Justified through process of use and extraction...
I think the issue is what the groups use the net for
If it is as a primary method of communication then there could be social isolation occuring.
If it is used as I use it as an aid to communication and interaction then I would say that the net is actively increasing my social intereaction.
I think one of the biggest problems is that people see the net becoming a primary social interaction device rather than as a tool to enhance,rather than replace traditional communications.
Also it would be interesting to see the study to see how it defines online use and online interaction.
I would hypothesise that if you broke down the results into categories based around what people mainly use the net for then you would ge tmore interesting and more informative results.
Firstly I would say that people who primarily use e-mail would probably use it as a communication enhancer to catch up with people and arrange face to face meetings.
People who primarily surf or use IRC and talkers maybe the ones who are less inclined to use it for enhancing IRL experience.
Although it would be a less attention grabbing headline
'People shown to derive variable benefit depending on context of internet use...'
Suppose you make guns. I don't care any type of guns. Now suppose a couple of stupid kids decide to shoot up a high school? Sound familiar. Are you then to blame because someone did something stupid?
If you have made something that's sole purpose is to cause harm them you should be big enough to take some of the blame when it is used for such matters.
Look at Nobel who became a pacifict and campaigned against his own invention when he realised it created one of the most effective ways to kill people.
Look at Oppenheimer, and many others through history.
As for hammers, their sole purpose isn't to cause harm and kill.
Another example. I create a genetically mutated virus that kills all people with blue eyes, but keep it safe. If someone breaks in and releases it, I am still the one who brought it into exstance and I am morally implicated in the genocide for creating the tool with a primary role of destruction in the first place.
As for the bit about the public domain, I put that in because he knew the effect it would have and shouldn't denythe consequences of his action.
No. The fact that I authored these tools does in no way mean that I condone their active use. I must admit I was quite shocked to hear about the latest attacks. It seems that the attackers are pretty clueless people who misuse powerful resources and tools for generally harmful and senseless activities just "because they can."
Reminds me of most weapons makers who dissolve themselves from blame as the creators by saying that theirs is a tool that is misused.
There is more than a hint of ego in this guys work (if indeed it was him) by putting it in a public forum (albeit for good reasons) he knew that people were going to abuse his creation.
Maybe he should have let the relevant people know abot the problem before putting the code in the public domain.
In many ways I suspect he wanted an attack to vindicate himself, show off his skills whilst remaining on the side of the light and generally bask in the publicity...
Until recently the internet has been the tool of the underground grassroots political campaigner. It has been used effectively to gather support and create networks of information and disinformation. The current mainstream politics seems to be now using the medium more, do you think there is much you can learn from the experiences of grassroots campaigners on the internet?
>However I would say that CCTV is a necessary >evil. We may not like being watched, but I >prefer it to being attacked in the street.
I have been attacked in the street by three thugs and guess what? I'd rather live with the danger of being attacked than the greater danger of having cameras everywhere. It's people like you that created the oppressive laws like this one!
Well, you make personal attacks on me behind the AC tag, which says it all really.
I've been attacked, I've seen friends put into hospital, we've seen many cases of attacks resulting in deaths where they can't prosecute because there is no evidence.
Stuff I do in private is private, stuff in public is under the scrutiny of the public eye.
I fought the CJA, sometimes physically as it contained genuine attacks on the freedoms of individuals to carry out their lives in a peaceful and non hamrful way.
If you can give me one example of how CCTV stops someone from carrying out lawful and peaceful activity then I would be very suprised.
And delusional paranoid fantasies about big brother tracking you day and night are just that.
When it comes down to it CCTV cuts crime, increases incarceration rate for violent crimes.
You want to see real oppression move to Indonesia and grow up.
Under UK law as it stande the Police should ask if the person is the driver of the car and it is an offence not to answer (whether that is right or wrong is not the point here) in this case her lawyer used this as a technicallity to get her off even though she admitted being drunk and having driven...
What just in case they want to access a DVD you encyppted yourself using that key...
And DeCSS is illegal in the uk due to the strong anti-reverse engineering of encryption which was rushed through the statute books after satelite decoders were hacked in this country.
I agree with parts of this but I think the picture isn't that simple.
The Anti-Protestor and traveller sections tacked onto an otherwise sound Criminal Justice Bill were badly thought out, reactionary and tantamount to legitimised bigotry and destruction of the rights to peaceful protest.
However I would say that CCTV is a necessary evil. We may not like being watched, but I prefer it to being attacked in the street.
I think the sale of the images to private organisations is however a bad thing (although having worked where part of my job involved operating laser sighting infra red cameras I must admit I loved them *grin*)
The crime reduction, especially with violent crime, attacks, muggings, rapes, etc. far outweighs privacy issues, especially when they are in public places (bugging and covert surveilence are other matters) If an individual is in a public place they are on display and therefore should have no complaints about their movements being watched as evedience in case they commit a crime.
Overexaggeration based around paranioa doesn't see the whole picture.
Difficult as the case in question was not precedint setting as it was based around a legal technicallity whereby the police are not allowed to 'force' you to say anythins (although non disclosure is now admissable as evidence in courts)
The case in question pertained to a woman caught drink driving who under UK law had to say whether she was the driver of the car. However under EU law you have to give the individual the right not to respond. The simple answer to the speeding question is to fine the legal owner of the vehical unless they give the name of the driver or have reported it stolen.
As for the encryption this should only apply if there is a court order for the information which is no different to the use of a search warrant.
Would you sat that unencrypted files or paper documents are covered in free speech legislation.
For example, if a heroin dealer has book with details of all his dealings then according to the free speach arguement he should be able to withold these as evidence...
Now my science may be a bit rusty, but shurely this isn't about Primordial soup but primordial matter???
Please correct me, and I know you will if I am wrong, but isn't Primordial soup a generic term for the beginnings of life, is the simple amenio-acids that were formed in the past.
This experiment is about Primordial matter, discovering the origins of matter rather than 'life'
Do you want me to telegraph my sarcasm in future? I would have thought the header and the following paragraphs would have given it away. Although you are from the US so I forgive you for not noticing.
Well, even though I'm not in the states this freaks me totally.
With my next pc I'm going to invest in a cd writer, imaging software and the biggest electromagnet I can get my hands on. Maybe companies should start this as a package for the paranoid masses.
Slashdot Mirror
Yeah, they're good slasher movies.
Yeah, they reflexively look at the genre in an ironic way
This is supposed to be clever and origonal
Wes Craven's New nightmare was good and, much as the origonal elm street defined black comedic slashers created a new breed of self refernetial reflexive horror films
The Neverending story did it way before (although the only horror was the kid...)... Nuff said!
But then again I am the person who thought Blair Witch was generic, unscary badly acted tripe. So what would I know
As for Scream 3, it may be a good rflexive slasher, but Elm street 3 was a good slasher, albeit a tired one because it was an old and used formula. From what I have seen I will probably enjoy scream 3 but come out with an empty feeling as if I have seen it all before...
Roll on scream 6 when they parody the parody of media looking at a film of a parody of a horror parody being looked at by the media.
Better to go to a lunar calendar with variable rates of time based on percentages of daylight/darkness ratios.
There is a series of villages in almost a circle and near one of the villages is a small military instillation on a hill. Below that was the research facility which went under a couple of the villages. Around the Westerham area.
My father, 30 odd years ago worked in Nuclear weapons research for a year after university.
Every few weeks a russian nuclear warhead would turn up unnanounced outside their office and they would analyse it.
Once he asked how they smuggled it out joking 'Does somebody just walk out with it under their coat.'
The reply was a simple knowing look and then the supervisor walked off...
Scarily to the entire British Nuclear stockpile was held at the base he was at which was a small site near Seven Oaks in Kent which, like all research establishments was only about 2 percent above ground...
Oops, just breached national security... Bugger.
THey could slap an export restriction on the technology, but that isn't going to have a huge effect.
Ironically enough though although the US isn't allowed to produce any new weapons they are spending billions on making the ones they have more devestating...
Or they could do what they usually do and invade any small countries and attempt to put illegal puppet governments in place...
Go figure the fairness in that...
Archiving should be all about finding effecient ways of storing information in retrievable ways for as long as possible
However, archival seems to have become all about storing all the information (take the British Library or Library of congress which can't really keep up with publishing in terms of space and resources...)
Maybe the answer is something like Guttenburg where plain text is used and a fluid medium is used, albeit one which seems to be stable (ie multiple mirrores servers with backup devices)
I think there needs to be a shift in focus from the sheer need to store to the methods of storing and the reasons for storing.
I think the internet is an interesting snapshot of our time, but I think it's transience and fluidity are then things that make it what it is and the things that make archival a difficult process...
Hmm, more thought needed... I would plug my pmployers now as information management and storage is our thing, but that would be crass... (unless anyone in the field of Information storage wants a scholorship, in which case mail me for details.
Books can have a life of hundreds, if not thousands of years if treated right. Even with abuse it will survive for years.
There is a problem of obsellescence of language, although usually there is a rosetta stone equivilent
With modern Media technology is progressing so fast in an almost throwaway way. At my previous company we had good backups, but we had no way of accessing them as before we went to DAT and then DLT we didn't actually posess the devices needed to read the tapes and before that disks.It could be argued that with the internet archiving is going to be more dynamic and fluid, but where does this leave information, and especially information for future generations. It is all well and good moving from teh printed page to the digital page, but in 2000 years time will they be able to revive the contents of a hard disc, will the information on the internet evolved dynamically not leaving a snapshot. Or will they look through the books of our time???
What will be our dead sea scrolls?
I'll be the first to admit that I play devils advocate in free speech arguements, but I think this was a good victory and a just one.
The people pushing this campaign were using it as a test bed for others around the states. This was espeially highlighted with the proximity of the presidential compaigns which got rolled into the debate.
I personally live in the UK and the case was in the states. Why does it affect me
Mainly because the US's political hegemony is pretty much global now and if it appeared to be effective in the US then the UK would probably be more inclined to carry out the same processes.
Just because common all garden newspapers don't cater for every trend, demographic and subset of society doesn't mean that they have no use.
If you are going too look at tehm and critisize them on technology and cultural content I think you need include in your comparison the 'newspapers' that cater to the different cliques of society. Take Computer Weekly and Computing in the UK, or Network Week.
These all cover the areas you talk about in some technical depth and are relevant to the people who read them.
Daily NEWSpapers are there to let people know the news of what has happened over th elast day and night from around the world and local.
Personally my mornign starts at work with me reading Slashdot, ZDNet UK News, the Independant website and the BBC news online service. Occasionally I check out the Washington Post, New Your Times, or Ft.COM all online to catch up on different perspectives.
Personally I would prefer to read them in paper format, but I don't have the time in teh mornign to pick them up
You say that newspapers are no longer relevant to culture... I say they are. At various times I have read various papers to get information on various things and it tends to be informative and more trustworthy than web content, biased sure, but there is a higher percentage of BS on th eweb than in the mainstream papers.
I would assert that the papers are here, they perform their function well to the larger part of society and that the assertation that they will be destroyed by the net is akin to the same arguements used when radio and television come about.
I guess it's patent based around process and discovery of process. Much in the same way you can have the madness of naturally occuring genetic material being patented by companies... Justified through process of use and extraction...
If it is as a primary method of communication then there could be social isolation occuring.
If it is used as I use it as an aid to communication and interaction then I would say that the net is actively increasing my social intereaction.
I think one of the biggest problems is that people see the net becoming a primary social interaction device rather than as a tool to enhance,rather than replace traditional communications.
Also it would be interesting to see the study to see how it defines online use and online interaction.
I would hypothesise that if you broke down the results into categories based around what people mainly use the net for then you would ge tmore interesting and more informative results.
Firstly I would say that people who primarily use e-mail would probably use it as a communication enhancer to catch up with people and arrange face to face meetings.
People who primarily surf or use IRC and talkers maybe the ones who are less inclined to use it for enhancing IRL experience.
Although it would be a less attention grabbing headline
AFAIR Sir Paul McCartney tried and failed a few years ago.
I know the definition, I know a lot of old school hackers, I also know a lot of crackers, I definately put him in the first category.
If you have made something that's sole purpose is to cause harm them you should be big enough to take some of the blame when it is used for such matters.
Look at Nobel who became a pacifict and campaigned against his own invention when he realised it created one of the most effective ways to kill people.
Look at Oppenheimer, and many others through history.
As for hammers, their sole purpose isn't to cause harm and kill.
Another example. I create a genetically mutated virus that kills all people with blue eyes, but keep it safe. If someone breaks in and releases it, I am still the one who brought it into exstance and I am morally implicated in the genocide for creating the tool with a primary role of destruction in the first place.
As for the bit about the public domain, I put that in because he knew the effect it would have and shouldn't denythe consequences of his action.
With liberty comes responsibility.
There is more than a hint of ego in this guys work (if indeed it was him) by putting it in a public forum (albeit for good reasons) he knew that people were going to abuse his creation.
Maybe he should have let the relevant people know abot the problem before putting the code in the public domain.
In many ways I suspect he wanted an attack to vindicate himself, show off his skills whilst remaining on the side of the light and generally bask in the publicity...
Until recently the internet has been the tool of the underground grassroots political campaigner. It has been used effectively to gather support and create networks of information and disinformation. The current mainstream politics seems to be now using the medium more, do you think there is much you can learn from the experiences of grassroots campaigners on the internet?
WHich is why you should always give your keys to someone else whilst sleeping it off in teh car...
I have been attacked in the street by three thugs and guess what? I'd rather live with the danger of being attacked than the greater danger of having cameras everywhere. It's people like you that created the oppressive laws like this one!
Well, you make personal attacks on me behind the AC tag, which says it all really.
I've been attacked, I've seen friends put into hospital, we've seen many cases of attacks resulting in deaths where they can't prosecute because there is no evidence.
Stuff I do in private is private, stuff in public is under the scrutiny of the public eye.
I fought the CJA, sometimes physically as it contained genuine attacks on the freedoms of individuals to carry out their lives in a peaceful and non hamrful way.
If you can give me one example of how CCTV stops someone from carrying out lawful and peaceful activity then I would be very suprised.
And delusional paranoid fantasies about big brother tracking you day and night are just that.
When it comes down to it CCTV cuts crime, increases incarceration rate for violent crimes.
You want to see real oppression move to Indonesia and grow up.
Under UK law as it stande the Police should ask if the person is the driver of the car and it is an offence not to answer (whether that is right or wrong is not the point here) in this case her lawyer used this as a technicallity to get her off even though she admitted being drunk and having driven...
And DeCSS is illegal in the uk due to the strong anti-reverse engineering of encryption which was rushed through the statute books after satelite decoders were hacked in this country.
The Anti-Protestor and traveller sections tacked onto an otherwise sound Criminal Justice Bill were badly thought out, reactionary and tantamount to legitimised bigotry and destruction of the rights to peaceful protest.
However I would say that CCTV is a necessary evil. We may not like being watched, but I prefer it to being attacked in the street.
I think the sale of the images to private organisations is however a bad thing (although having worked where part of my job involved operating laser sighting infra red cameras I must admit I loved them *grin*)
The crime reduction, especially with violent crime, attacks, muggings, rapes, etc. far outweighs privacy issues, especially when they are in public places (bugging and covert surveilence are other matters) If an individual is in a public place they are on display and therefore should have no complaints about their movements being watched as evedience in case they commit a crime.
Overexaggeration based around paranioa doesn't see the whole picture.
The case in question pertained to a woman caught drink driving who under UK law had to say whether she was the driver of the car. However under EU law you have to give the individual the right not to respond. The simple answer to the speeding question is to fine the legal owner of the vehical unless they give the name of the driver or have reported it stolen.
As for the encryption this should only apply if there is a court order for the information which is no different to the use of a search warrant.
Would you sat that unencrypted files or paper documents are covered in free speech legislation.
For example, if a heroin dealer has book with details of all his dealings then according to the free speach arguement he should be able to withold these as evidence...
Think about it...
Please correct me, and I know you will if I am wrong, but isn't Primordial soup a generic term for the beginnings of life, is the simple amenio-acids that were formed in the past.
This experiment is about Primordial matter, discovering the origins of matter rather than 'life'
Do you want me to telegraph my sarcasm in future? I would have thought the header and the following paragraphs would have given it away. Although you are from the US so I forgive you for not noticing.
With my next pc I'm going to invest in a cd writer, imaging software and the biggest electromagnet I can get my hands on. Maybe companies should start this as a package for the paranoid masses.