CS is horrible, absolutely horrible. I prefer Tactical Ops for UT because it depends more on a player's skill than the server's random number generator.
Sometimes/dev/random is nice to me and sometimes it's a bitch.
There's nothing wrong with EverQuest or being addicted to it. I have a cable modem and that means people can phone me up on the voice phone line and badger me instead of talking to me on IRC like all my friends do.
Am I addicted to IRC?
And is there anything wrong with that?
It took Blizzard long enough to push Diablo 2 out.
As for Diablo I was never much of a fan, even when it first came out it was too boring and tedious to play. Here's something with REAL replay value: ADOM.
Gnutella search over-broadcasting is a bitch, yes.
Meanwhile, I think that our AUP does actually allow P2P filesharing as long as it's attended (see: your Gnutella 24/7 remark)
> Secondly, I have the Sun 1.3 JRE running Tomcat with a memory footprint of about 10 megs, and it is a much more complex application than freenet.
I'm not arguing, I just wanted to say...
PID TTY STAT TIME MAJFL TRS DRS RSS %MEM COMMAND
27034 pts/1 S 0:00 222 289 1458 996 1.5 -bash
27139 pts/1 S 0:00 192 289 1362 800 1.2 sh./freenet_server
27142 pts/1 S 0:02 1202 12 90459 15352 24.3/opt/IBMJava2-13/jre/bin/exe/java Freenet.node.Node
27147 pts/1 S 0:00 1 12 90459 15352 24.3/opt/IBMJava2-13/jre/bin/exe/java Freenet.node.Node
27148 pts/1 S 0:00 0 12 90459 15352 24.3/opt/IBMJava2-13/jre/bin/exe/java Freenet.node.Node
27149 pts/1 S 0:00 0 12 90459 15352 24.3/opt/IBMJava2-13/jre/bin/exe/java Freenet.node.Node
27150 pts/1 S 0:00 0 12 90459 15352 24.3/opt/IBMJava2-13/jre/bin/exe/java Freenet.node.Node
27151 pts/1 S 0:01 12 12 90459 15352 24.3/opt/IBMJava2-13/jre/bin/exe/java Freenet.node.Node
27153 pts/1 S 0:00 0 12 90459 15352 24.3/opt/IBMJava2-13/jre/bin/exe/java Freenet.node.Node
27154 pts/1 S 0:00 0 12 90459 15352 24.3/opt/IBMJava2-13/jre/bin/exe/java Freenet.node.Node
27155 pts/1 S 0:00 0 12 90459 15352 24.3/opt/IBMJava2-13/jre/bin/exe/java Freenet.node.Node
27156 pts/1 S 0:00 0 12 90459 15352 24.3/opt/IBMJava2-13/jre/bin/exe/java Freenet.node.Node
27174 pts/1 R 0:00 156 56 2275 680 1.0 ps v
^^^ ouch.
> So, Freenet takes up alot RAM, whoopdee freakin do. You think every application written in c is automatically less prone to memory leaks?
No, but I think that it would have a smaller memory overhead due to there being no interpreter.
> It's just as easy to write bad code or good code in java as it is in c.
Amen.
I'm sorry if my initial "Java does suck" comment seemed a bit harsh.
I've used Java, I've written code in Java.
I can appreciate portability and the fact that it's a good OO language, I just think (and maybe I'm wrong) that if Freenet were written in C/C++ it wouldn't lose out on portability, would gain in terms of an audience and would be a little bit leaner at runtime.;)
> I suppose now that your box is paging for your swap file and that makes Java too slow huh?
I never complained about speed. Besides, this is Freenet and Freenet isn't a raytracer or a fluid dynamics simulator.
> I wouldn't doubt it if you had sendmail, apache, samba, and 50 other processes running for no reason.
I did actually remove all those other processes.
> You cheap bastard, why don't you just break down and spend 40 bucks for some more RAM
Because I'm cheap, because I'm a student, because I'm poor. Because it's my firewall box, it's not the Gaming God Box.
> or use another jre
I was gonna use Kaffe but it didn't work (it says it doesn't in the Freenet readme file)
> or help tighten the freenet code
I'd rather help out with the C/C++ implementation. (Sorry)
> because it takes too long to pull down a 30k jar file for a web page on your 28.8 connnection.
CS is horrible, absolutely horrible. I prefer Tactical Ops for UT because it depends more on a player's skill than the server's random number generator.
/dev/random is nice to me and sometimes it's a bitch.
Sometimes
There's nothing wrong with EverQuest or being addicted to it. I have a cable modem and that means people can phone me up on the voice phone line and badger me instead of talking to me on IRC like all my friends do.
Am I addicted to IRC?
And is there anything wrong with that?
It took Blizzard long enough to push Diablo 2 out.
As for Diablo I was never much of a fan, even when it first came out it was too boring and tedious to play. Here's something with REAL replay value: ADOM.
They won't design there?
Well, I won't design there either.
Gnutella search over-broadcasting is a bitch, yes.
Meanwhile, I think that our AUP does actually allow P2P filesharing as long as it's attended (see: your Gnutella 24/7 remark)
> First off, you are full of shit
./freenet_server
/opt/IBMJava2-13/jre/bin/exe/java Freenet.node.Node
/opt/IBMJava2-13/jre/bin/exe/java Freenet.node.Node
/opt/IBMJava2-13/jre/bin/exe/java Freenet.node.Node
/opt/IBMJava2-13/jre/bin/exe/java Freenet.node.Node
/opt/IBMJava2-13/jre/bin/exe/java Freenet.node.Node
/opt/IBMJava2-13/jre/bin/exe/java Freenet.node.Node
/opt/IBMJava2-13/jre/bin/exe/java Freenet.node.Node
/opt/IBMJava2-13/jre/bin/exe/java Freenet.node.Node
/opt/IBMJava2-13/jre/bin/exe/java Freenet.node.Node
/opt/IBMJava2-13/jre/bin/exe/java Freenet.node.Node
;)
Now now, play nice. =)
> Secondly, I have the Sun 1.3 JRE running Tomcat with a memory footprint of about 10 megs, and it is a much more complex application than freenet.
I'm not arguing, I just wanted to say...
PID TTY STAT TIME MAJFL TRS DRS RSS %MEM COMMAND
27034 pts/1 S 0:00 222 289 1458 996 1.5 -bash
27139 pts/1 S 0:00 192 289 1362 800 1.2 sh
27142 pts/1 S 0:02 1202 12 90459 15352 24.3
27147 pts/1 S 0:00 1 12 90459 15352 24.3
27148 pts/1 S 0:00 0 12 90459 15352 24.3
27149 pts/1 S 0:00 0 12 90459 15352 24.3
27150 pts/1 S 0:00 0 12 90459 15352 24.3
27151 pts/1 S 0:01 12 12 90459 15352 24.3
27153 pts/1 S 0:00 0 12 90459 15352 24.3
27154 pts/1 S 0:00 0 12 90459 15352 24.3
27155 pts/1 S 0:00 0 12 90459 15352 24.3
27156 pts/1 S 0:00 0 12 90459 15352 24.3
27174 pts/1 R 0:00 156 56 2275 680 1.0 ps v
^^^ ouch.
> So, Freenet takes up alot RAM, whoopdee freakin do. You think every application written in c is automatically less prone to memory leaks?
No, but I think that it would have a smaller memory overhead due to there being no interpreter.
> It's just as easy to write bad code or good code in java as it is in c.
Amen.
I'm sorry if my initial "Java does suck" comment seemed a bit harsh.
I've used Java, I've written code in Java.
I can appreciate portability and the fact that it's a good OO language, I just think (and maybe I'm wrong) that if Freenet were written in C/C++ it wouldn't lose out on portability, would gain in terms of an audience and would be a little bit leaner at runtime.
> I suppose now that your box is paging for your swap file and that makes Java too slow huh?
I never complained about speed. Besides, this is Freenet and Freenet isn't a raytracer or a fluid dynamics simulator.
> I wouldn't doubt it if you had sendmail, apache, samba, and 50 other processes running for no reason.
I did actually remove all those other processes.
> You cheap bastard, why don't you just break down and spend 40 bucks for some more RAM
Because I'm cheap, because I'm a student, because I'm poor. Because it's my firewall box, it's not the Gaming God Box.
> or use another jre
I was gonna use Kaffe but it didn't work (it says it doesn't in the Freenet readme file)
> or help tighten the freenet code
I'd rather help out with the C/C++ implementation. (Sorry)
> because it takes too long to pull down a 30k jar file for a web page on your 28.8 connnection.
It's cable actually. <grin>