Yeah Id really looks like they're hurting for money and resources after doing all their games for at least Windows and Linux and eventually giving their source code away.
All companies sure seem to have more than enough time to write Linux dedicated servers. If Windows is superior then they should only write dedicated servers for Windows too.
I highly doubt Jobs had invented all their recent innovations. They is too busy to be tinkering with gadgets all day *and* coming up with superior marketing to make their products really popular.
But everyone thinks they need Jobs which is a good reason to keep him on and get him to slowly disappear and ease people into the fact he's human and won't live forever.
Why is it so critical that generations worth of people, who did nothing to create the work get money out of it while tax payer money is spent protecting your work?
People were not born with the right to copyright. The government gave it to you with the understanding that it becomes becomes public domain after a certain period.
If copyright was indefinite eventually it would be so hard to create something without someone claiming you're infringing on their copyright so it has to end no matter how greedy an artist is.
For all you know, if copyright was indefinite your work might be similar enough for someone to take you to court.
Then I'd have to agree with you. You can't undo decades of Office documents by demanding ODF documents as nice of a thought as that may be.
His heart is in the right place but we should focus more on getting people using something that uses both document types and then getting them to change to ODF will be easy.
As we know, if everyone uses Word then to the average person Word is as open as they need.
I'm sure I'll get negatively modded for this but why has he been modded Troll? That's poor moderation.
Perhaps the parent's POV on what Stallman thinks of doc files might be a bit extreme to some people but he has a point. Most people don't care and that won't change until FOSS has marketing like MS or Apple as people don't realise how much of the internet is run on free or open software and how much it has done for them already.
After all good marketing has helped Apple come back from the brink of death.
I think the Uni and the student should have joint ownership of the patent but that probably doesn't happen anywhere and it won't because everyone will just accept their terms and only be upset when it bites them in the backside later so they do really only have themselves to blame.
Or worse yet in order to use the software you have to accept their terms. But to read the terms you have to open the product. If you open the product, disgree and try to return it you're called a thief and have to go through a hassle to get a refund.
It's in no way consumer friendly so most people won't disagree with their terms evne if they have the time to read 50 paragraphs of unnecessary BS which basically say you have no rights and they've done nothing wrong so they don't have to do a good job.
As it's been mentioned already most people will accept this because the bar has been set so low it doesn't take much to make people think they're getting a good deal.
It would be nice if people would actually stick together and push for something to be done about this but I don't see that happening any time soon.
I'm well aware of the fact other races are racist and yes blacks, at least in the US, can be racist against Jews. Then there are the Chinese and Japanese feelings towards each other in some cases. However that's not really relevant when it's quite likely it's the same AC making comments towards both Jews and Blacks in the discussion. Which likely means it's some redneck so I mentioned rednecks specifically.
Not to mention just because some black guy is a racist tit doesn't give any other race the right to be one as well.
You pay for the education which you will get either way.
IF you don't like their rules you don't have to go there so saying you have to pay means nothing as it's a free choice. What should the uni supply beer and easy women for your parties since you pay to be there?
It's the same with employment. Hell, ages ago I had a packing job. It was brain dead work that just got me some money to get by in my youth. I still had to sign something that said if I invent something within the company or with their resources then they own it.
I can see why a university thinks it should get ownership. You paid for the education and you're getting an education. Creating something new isn't necessarily part of that process and you may not have been able to do it without their resources.
Either way the patent should belong to both the student and the university. It was a combination of their resources / talent to get the patent so they should both reap the rewards.
Yeah because racism against the blacks and jews is a key trait to successful people and not backwards rednecks in poverty looking to blame everyone else for their miserable life.
The problem is we haven't left it alone for a long time. This is no more wrong than building millions of cars and factories to pollute the earth or cutting down a fair portion of our trees to pave over huge swaths of the planet.
As an American I am proud of what we've done but I'm also proud of the work the non-Americans have done to help us achieve what we wanted.
And in fact I think it goes to show we'd achieve a load more if we could unite and combine our strengths, like Voltron, rather than fight each other. Unfortunately that goes against our instinct and a global economy scares to religious freaks who believe that will bring on the end of the world.
I couldn't be bothered to read this whole thing at 3am but I will say this. There is no reason a $20 cert from GoDaddy is any less valid than a $500 verisign one. The largest difference is one is making you pay extra just as you would for a sports car but in the end both get the job done.
Lastly, trusting the government not to cock this up relies on all countries doing the same thing and it relies on governments sorting their acts out and stop fucking things up as virtually every government seems to do.
FOSS just need marketing fullstop which is hard to get when your business model involves giving things away for free.
Most people just care about getting things done rather than how they get it done. If they knew they could get it done for less with Linux they'd love that but most people are afraid of computers and wouldn't dare try something that looks remotely different from Windows. I think part of Vista's problem is more that they changed the look rather than it's a POS.
To be fair a lot of companies train people on upgraded software whether or not it's FOSS.
We had Lotus Notes 8 training recently and that's an hour out of my life where I struggled to stay away and could have used to code something useful but no, we have to pretend people are stupid and train them on anything where the UI changes a little.
So really you can't count training costs because companies will likely pay that whether or not they move from Office 2k3 to Office 2k7 or OOo.
In regards to going from Windows to Linux. I think the time to get people up to speed is relatively low because
A) In a corporate environment they shouldn't be allowed to install whatever they want so the finer details of Linux aren't needed.
B) Menu layouts are fairly standard thanks to Linux copying Windows who copies Apple.
My company is doing a mix between keeping Office 2k3 and very slowly attempting to get people using Lotus Symphony which isn't OOo but it uses the Open Document format. That is all we really need.. Imo, this isn't necessarily about OOo beating Office but getting people using something that allows you to use anything so there is no risk of losing access to your data.
Sounds like you don't want to provide support or code. I'm sure someone said CS was good for high paying jobs but unless you love what you're doing then you won't get far.
If you're not willing to code or provide tech support there isn't much you're going to be able to do at the bottom.
To an extent alot of jobs are going to be about customer support. Whether you're having to reboot someone's XP desktop because they've complained or reboot the server at 3am because someone's complained.
As well what exactly don't you like about coding? I know writing scripts to run server tasks isn't exactly like coding a desktop application but it's still coding to an extent. So server administrator might not be an option.
There's always project manager but then you have to deal with being the first in line to receive shit when things aren't going well and if you don't it well then you'll also get no respect from those you're managing.
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Yeah Id really looks like they're hurting for money and resources after doing all their games for at least Windows and Linux and eventually giving their source code away.
All companies sure seem to have more than enough time to write Linux dedicated servers. If Windows is superior then they should only write dedicated servers for Windows too.
I highly doubt Jobs had invented all their recent innovations. They is too busy to be tinkering with gadgets all day *and* coming up with superior marketing to make their products really popular.
But everyone thinks they need Jobs which is a good reason to keep him on and get him to slowly disappear and ease people into the fact he's human and won't live forever.
This has been covered numerous times already.
Why is it so critical that generations worth of people, who did nothing to create the work get money out of it while tax payer money is spent protecting your work?
People were not born with the right to copyright. The government gave it to you with the understanding that it becomes becomes public domain after a certain period.
If copyright was indefinite eventually it would be so hard to create something without someone claiming you're infringing on their copyright so it has to end no matter how greedy an artist is.
For all you know, if copyright was indefinite your work might be similar enough for someone to take you to court.
Then I'd have to agree with you. You can't undo decades of Office documents by demanding ODF documents as nice of a thought as that may be.
His heart is in the right place but we should focus more on getting people using something that uses both document types and then getting them to change to ODF will be easy.
As we know, if everyone uses Word then to the average person Word is as open as they need.
I'm sure I'll get negatively modded for this but why has he been modded Troll? That's poor moderation.
Perhaps the parent's POV on what Stallman thinks of doc files might be a bit extreme to some people but he has a point. Most people don't care and that won't change until FOSS has marketing like MS or Apple as people don't realise how much of the internet is run on free or open software and how much it has done for them already.
After all good marketing has helped Apple come back from the brink of death.
I think the Uni and the student should have joint ownership of the patent but that probably doesn't happen anywhere and it won't because everyone will just accept their terms and only be upset when it bites them in the backside later so they do really only have themselves to blame.
Or worse yet in order to use the software you have to accept their terms. But to read the terms you have to open the product. If you open the product, disgree and try to return it you're called a thief and have to go through a hassle to get a refund.
It's in no way consumer friendly so most people won't disagree with their terms evne if they have the time to read 50 paragraphs of unnecessary BS which basically say you have no rights and they've done nothing wrong so they don't have to do a good job.
As it's been mentioned already most people will accept this because the bar has been set so low it doesn't take much to make people think they're getting a good deal.
It would be nice if people would actually stick together and push for something to be done about this but I don't see that happening any time soon.
I'm well aware of the fact other races are racist and yes blacks, at least in the US, can be racist against Jews. Then there are the Chinese and Japanese feelings towards each other in some cases. However that's not really relevant when it's quite likely it's the same AC making comments towards both Jews and Blacks in the discussion. Which likely means it's some redneck so I mentioned rednecks specifically.
Not to mention just because some black guy is a racist tit doesn't give any other race the right to be one as well.
Giant robots are sweet and who doesn't know Voltron?
You pay for the education which you will get either way.
IF you don't like their rules you don't have to go there so saying you have to pay means nothing as it's a free choice. What should the uni supply beer and easy women for your parties since you pay to be there?
It's the same with employment. Hell, ages ago I had a packing job. It was brain dead work that just got me some money to get by in my youth. I still had to sign something that said if I invent something within the company or with their resources then they own it.
I can see why a university thinks it should get ownership. You paid for the education and you're getting an education. Creating something new isn't necessarily part of that process and you may not have been able to do it without their resources.
Either way the patent should belong to both the student and the university. It was a combination of their resources / talent to get the patent so they should both reap the rewards.
So this is an acceptable solution.
Yeah because racism against the blacks and jews is a key trait to successful people and not backwards rednecks in poverty looking to blame everyone else for their miserable life.
The problem is we haven't left it alone for a long time. This is no more wrong than building millions of cars and factories to pollute the earth or cutting down a fair portion of our trees to pave over huge swaths of the planet.
The best part about the Xmas holiday ending is all the kids going back to school giving them less time to shit all over the internet.
Now I can get dysentery from the comfort of my sofa!
As an American I am proud of what we've done but I'm also proud of the work the non-Americans have done to help us achieve what we wanted.
And in fact I think it goes to show we'd achieve a load more if we could unite and combine our strengths, like Voltron, rather than fight each other. Unfortunately that goes against our instinct and a global economy scares to religious freaks who believe that will bring on the end of the world.
And masturbate a lot. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3072021.stm
I couldn't be bothered to read this whole thing at 3am but I will say this. There is no reason a $20 cert from GoDaddy is any less valid than a $500 verisign one. The largest difference is one is making you pay extra just as you would for a sports car but in the end both get the job done.
Lastly, trusting the government not to cock this up relies on all countries doing the same thing and it relies on governments sorting their acts out and stop fucking things up as virtually every government seems to do.
FOSS just need marketing fullstop which is hard to get when your business model involves giving things away for free.
Most people just care about getting things done rather than how they get it done. If they knew they could get it done for less with Linux they'd love that but most people are afraid of computers and wouldn't dare try something that looks remotely different from Windows. I think part of Vista's problem is more that they changed the look rather than it's a POS.
To be fair a lot of companies train people on upgraded software whether or not it's FOSS.
We had Lotus Notes 8 training recently and that's an hour out of my life where I struggled to stay away and could have used to code something useful but no, we have to pretend people are stupid and train them on anything where the UI changes a little.
So really you can't count training costs because companies will likely pay that whether or not they move from Office 2k3 to Office 2k7 or OOo.
In regards to going from Windows to Linux. I think the time to get people up to speed is relatively low because
A) In a corporate environment they shouldn't be allowed to install whatever they want so the finer details of Linux aren't needed.
B) Menu layouts are fairly standard thanks to Linux copying Windows who copies Apple.
My company is doing a mix between keeping Office 2k3 and very slowly attempting to get people using Lotus Symphony which isn't OOo but it uses the Open Document format. That is all we really need.. Imo, this isn't necessarily about OOo beating Office but getting people using something that allows you to use anything so there is no risk of losing access to your data.
Sounds like you don't want to provide support or code. I'm sure someone said CS was good for high paying jobs but unless you love what you're doing then you won't get far.
If you're not willing to code or provide tech support there isn't much you're going to be able to do at the bottom.
To an extent alot of jobs are going to be about customer support. Whether you're having to reboot someone's XP desktop because they've complained or reboot the server at 3am because someone's complained.
As well what exactly don't you like about coding? I know writing scripts to run server tasks isn't exactly like coding a desktop application but it's still coding to an extent. So server administrator might not be an option.
There's always project manager but then you have to deal with being the first in line to receive shit when things aren't going well and if you don't it well then you'll also get no respect from those you're managing.
You're right because you're more likely to find people who don't like to code working at MS which explains the quality of their software.