If you have to continuously repeat that you are part of the "non-idiot group" it really looks like you are just trying to convince yourself of that more than anything else.
If more women than men were dying in games you wouldn't be calling it a "simplistic" mentality. You just have a myopic attitude of anything that happens to women (or imaginary women) is bad and you try to rationalize it after.
The female body is used as an attention grabber in literally every thing ever done by humans. Even feminists use this.
Who cares? Men have their little "save the woman" fantasy- women have their little Twilight, 50 Shades, etc, etc, fantasies. There are plenty of stories and games that don't fit that mold and women are free to play and create what ever they want. Just because not everything panders to certain insufferable women (remember that plenty of women have been playing and loving these games for ever) doesn't make it misogynistic.
If you shove your way into a group and say "you gotta do things that I want because I don't like what you're doing now" nobody is going to like you. That isn't misogyny.
Would you dense nitwits take your strawmen and go home? No one gives a damn how many men she slept with. It's the journalistic integrity involved in a situation in which people are promoting each other and secretly sleeping together.
Actually that is exactly what the no true Scotsman fallacy is. The whole point of it is just because you think someone shouldn't be lumped in your group at this moment doesn't mean you get to exclude them for being not a "real" feminist- er I mean Scotsman.
They get called that because they go on a warriors crusade for what they dogmatically consider "social justice". It's a play on words of "keyboard warrior".
I'm not sure what about it seems like a paranoid conspiracy. Just a group of people all behaving in a similar manner, grouping together, ganging up on others and self-identifying as their own in-group. Heaven forbid they get called a name you don't like.
Fictional stereotypes? This is a story about feminists labeling an entire group of people misogynists. They clearly don't have a problem with using the paint brush set to "wide".
Additionally there have been and still are feminists that claim that all heterosexual sex is rape. Which would make pretty much all men rapist. So again, not fictional.
It can certainly be evidence that the person you are labeling a "victim" is antagonizing people. For instance sometimes a group of people stand up to a bully and what is the first thing that bully does? Plays victim.
That said, 10-20 people is not enough for that. That's a sports team. Or a group of friends.
There's "no actual evidence"? I'm sorry but do you even understand what that word means? Guy was sleeping with her while promoting her work and didn't disclose that fact. That is clearly against the ethics of journalism.
The two of them were using their close personal ties to promote her "interactive novel" to the top of the list of indie games.
It strikes me as being purposefully obtuse to continually refuse to acknowledge evidence because you are trying to define it as "confession" to derail the conversation.
People are objecting not because Quinn and Sarkeesian are angels,
No, you are standing up for them because they are women. Women that, as you have admitted, have done bad things. But it's everyone else that are the sexists.
He says billions of new games come out every day. Then gives a picture of her game as the only picture in the article and lists it as the number one stand out. You call that "in passing"? I call that "favourable".
How the hell do you demonstrate that? Do I need to find her on video stating she was purposefully sleeping with people? She slept with this guy and "coincidentally" her game floated to the top of his list. At the very least it is a conflict of interest.
The only people focusing on Zoe is the gaming media. Most of the gaming community is trying to focus on the gaming media. People are saying the media is being dishonest. Dishonest like giving their close personal relationships very favourable reviews. Funny how that never seems to get addressed. Just endless repetition of how everyone is attacking this woman. Also focusing solely on her personal sexual relationships is all the gaming media involved in the scandal will cover. None of the other things the gaming community has been accusing her of. Almost like they're trying to spin a narrative.
You mean like all the great references from the article? Hey let's ask the people that are trying to downplay this situation what their take on the whole thing is?
But here you go: reference. He didn't review it. He just gave it title spot and listed it as a stand out.
I found this by actually following one of the references from the article.
If you're into spicy food that works well too. There is some evidence that it naturally increases metabolism and decreases hunger. If you go slightly above your comfort level it will ensure you drink lots of water and eat slower as well.
If you are consistently consuming more calories than you need and you raise your metabolism with exercise without paying attention to your diet chances are you will still consume more calories than you need. More exercise makes you more hungry which causes most people to want to eat more.
Is there some specific reason that men being sexually attracted to women and thus liking sexually attractive women in their media is bad? Why does male sexuality threaten you so much? Is it because it paints an unrealistic model of women? Ever read a romance novel? Ever watched a Rom-Com? Turns out people enjoy media that depicts idealized members of their preferred gender.
It kind of seems like people are slut shaming video game characters. It's very odd.
The cherry picking is in asserting that her examples are the only way things are. Pretending that numerous counter examples don't exist and framing things to fit her narrative.
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If you have to continuously repeat that you are part of the "non-idiot group" it really looks like you are just trying to convince yourself of that more than anything else.
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If more women than men were dying in games you wouldn't be calling it a "simplistic" mentality. You just have a myopic attitude of anything that happens to women (or imaginary women) is bad and you try to rationalize it after.
The female body is used as an attention grabber in literally every thing ever done by humans. Even feminists use this.
Who cares? Men have their little "save the woman" fantasy- women have their little Twilight, 50 Shades, etc, etc, fantasies. There are plenty of stories and games that don't fit that mold and women are free to play and create what ever they want. Just because not everything panders to certain insufferable women (remember that plenty of women have been playing and loving these games for ever) doesn't make it misogynistic.
If you shove your way into a group and say "you gotta do things that I want because I don't like what you're doing now" nobody is going to like you. That isn't misogyny.
It was right in the twitter feed linked as a reference. He was definitely promoting her work.
Would you dense nitwits take your strawmen and go home? No one gives a damn how many men she slept with. It's the journalistic integrity involved in a situation in which people are promoting each other and secretly sleeping together.
Actually that is exactly what the no true Scotsman fallacy is. The whole point of it is just because you think someone shouldn't be lumped in your group at this moment doesn't mean you get to exclude them for being not a "real" feminist- er I mean Scotsman.
They get called that because they go on a warriors crusade for what they dogmatically consider "social justice". It's a play on words of "keyboard warrior".
I'm not sure what about it seems like a paranoid conspiracy. Just a group of people all behaving in a similar manner, grouping together, ganging up on others and self-identifying as their own in-group. Heaven forbid they get called a name you don't like.
Fictional stereotypes? This is a story about feminists labeling an entire group of people misogynists. They clearly don't have a problem with using the paint brush set to "wide".
Additionally there have been and still are feminists that claim that all heterosexual sex is rape. Which would make pretty much all men rapist. So again, not fictional.
It can certainly be evidence that the person you are labeling a "victim" is antagonizing people. For instance sometimes a group of people stand up to a bully and what is the first thing that bully does? Plays victim.
That said, 10-20 people is not enough for that. That's a sports team. Or a group of friends.
Who's an MRA? What the hell are you talking about?
There's "no actual evidence"? I'm sorry but do you even understand what that word means? Guy was sleeping with her while promoting her work and didn't disclose that fact. That is clearly against the ethics of journalism.
The two of them were using their close personal ties to promote her "interactive novel" to the top of the list of indie games.
It strikes me as being purposefully obtuse to continually refuse to acknowledge evidence because you are trying to define it as "confession" to derail the conversation.
People are objecting not because Quinn and Sarkeesian are angels,
No, you are standing up for them because they are women. Women that, as you have admitted, have done bad things. But it's everyone else that are the sexists.
They are grouped together based on certain traits. The biggest of which is that they label anybody that disagrees with them "misogynists".
He says billions of new games come out every day. Then gives a picture of her game as the only picture in the article and lists it as the number one stand out. You call that "in passing"? I call that "favourable".
Oh they do. But conveniently these journalists "miss" this backlash and so don't report on it like it doesn't exist.
How the hell do you demonstrate that? Do I need to find her on video stating she was purposefully sleeping with people? She slept with this guy and "coincidentally" her game floated to the top of his list. At the very least it is a conflict of interest.
The only people focusing on Zoe is the gaming media. Most of the gaming community is trying to focus on the gaming media. People are saying the media is being dishonest. Dishonest like giving their close personal relationships very favourable reviews. Funny how that never seems to get addressed. Just endless repetition of how everyone is attacking this woman. Also focusing solely on her personal sexual relationships is all the gaming media involved in the scandal will cover. None of the other things the gaming community has been accusing her of. Almost like they're trying to spin a narrative.
That was written by one of the people she slept with. The one that the article said claimed never wrote a favourable review of her game.
Personally I would count "There are thousands of these games and this one stands out the most" to be a pretty favourable review.
You mean like all the great references from the article? Hey let's ask the people that are trying to downplay this situation what their take on the whole thing is?
But here you go: reference. He didn't review it. He just gave it title spot and listed it as a stand out.
I found this by actually following one of the references from the article.
If you're into spicy food that works well too. There is some evidence that it naturally increases metabolism and decreases hunger. If you go slightly above your comfort level it will ensure you drink lots of water and eat slower as well.
If you are consistently consuming more calories than you need and you raise your metabolism with exercise without paying attention to your diet chances are you will still consume more calories than you need. More exercise makes you more hungry which causes most people to want to eat more.
Is there some specific reason that men being sexually attracted to women and thus liking sexually attractive women in their media is bad? Why does male sexuality threaten you so much? Is it because it paints an unrealistic model of women? Ever read a romance novel? Ever watched a Rom-Com? Turns out people enjoy media that depicts idealized members of their preferred gender.
It kind of seems like people are slut shaming video game characters. It's very odd.
Apparently they don't have a problem with the industry then. Why are you ignoring their voices? Is it because they are female?
"Your games offend me and I don't want to play them. Therefore you have to make games that nobody wants to play".
But stereotypes about a demographic are bad?
The cherry picking is in asserting that her examples are the only way things are. Pretending that numerous counter examples don't exist and framing things to fit her narrative.