ARM is capable of performing at or near Jaguar levels.
That's something you are going to have to back up.
There's plenty of games out there already for iOS/Android so the architecture isn't a roadblock.
Plenty of games out there for 68K too. That does not mean it is as capable is x86. I do not care what games you play on your phone. They are not the same class as big PC games like Half Life. It is a simple fact that x86 has more raw power than ARM. There is no technical reason ARM could not be improved to a point that it is as powerful as x86 but it is not there now.
Architecture is a roadblock when one architecture provides serious performance gains.
Exactly. It's stupid because you don't do it. It doesn't matter how much reasoning you tack on. It's clear you've decided it's stupid because you don't want to do it.
People do this kind of thing because it's fun and enjoyable. Instead of blaming the victim why don't we blame the assholes that are ruining the fun for the rest of us?
Carmageddon?! That's your example? An MS-DOS game? An older game indeed. I don't think people are going to be lining up to buy a device that will only play 16 year old games.
You and the rest of the world may have a largely different definition of "graphically intensive".
If 8 Bobcat derived cores can handle the PS4/XBox One, then a collection of high end ARM cores can handle a decent GPU
That does not follow. Jaguar (the bobcat derived you were talking about) is still an x86 architecture. It also includes many of the fancy x86 features. Why do you think everyone is using x86 for these things? Because it is up to the task now. They don't have to design/fab some complex new ARM design that no one knows how to use just to compete with what already exists in the x86 space. Remember how well Cell worked out for IBM and Sony?
You haven't used many live CDs have you? Yes you can run purely from the CD, and yes, then you can't save anything. But most allow you to save to hard disk just like any other OS.
I've used them extensively. Where is your live CD going to save stuff on the harddrive? Is it going to just make itself a partition? Or are you expecting gamers to figure this out without constantly breaking their machines?
And the idea that "Messing around with the boot loader is not very easy" is just silly. every modern Linux distro out there offers to install a bootloader for you if you already have windows. It rarely causes problems and people who have no idea what they are doing successfully complete installs all the time.
If you are installing Linux then you either have an idea of what a bootloader is or can quickly figure it out but most likely you have fairly intricate knowledge of how the bootloader works because you've had it broken multiple times in the past. If you work a lot with multi-boot systems you've most likely had a bootloader failure at some point or another. Luckily Grub and the Windows boot loader are painless to fix once you've had to do it a couple of times.
There is a reason why the popular OSes pretty much just claim a computer as wholly their own.
There is an update and you must download and burn a new disc to continue playing this game.
That, among many other reasons, is why such a thing would not work as a live CD. Messing with a user's bootloader when the user has no idea what that is is not "very easy". It is a sure path to failure.
it'll probably work the same way games are released for Windows, OS X, and desktop Linux
The fact that they all run the same architecture? Hint: x86 not ARM.
You don't actually think a game that requires a GPU that takes probably an order of magnitude more power than an entire ARM device is just a recompile away do you?
Why do you keep posting this?! The whole point of responsive design is to adapt to the user. If you want two windows side-by-side it will work. If I want one big window on then it will also work. Do you not see how that is better? And foolishly limiting what the user can do is seen as worse?
So if your monitor is as big as a two-page monitor, you can unmaximize your and display two web pages in 960-pixel-wide windows
I have two screens for that. And it is still not an excuse to dictate the width of the content. If the content filled the width of the viewport then I can choose to have it fullscreen or halfscreen and both would work well.
Being able to refer to the article in replies to other Slashdot users' comments is a one-way ticket to more (Score:5, Informative) posts.
You're not even new here.. You should know by now that being correct is one of the least reliable means of getting +5.
Because a user's data is so very often mixed with other users' data. Sometimes it is not easily identified as a certain user's data. And sometimes there are just no provisions for removing that stuff and doing so would be labour intensive.
There is a picture with 5 people in it. One person wants their data removed (not untagged; removed). What about the other four people in the picture? Too bad for them the picture's gone?
A forum user wants their data removed. Entire threads would have to be purged from the forum that the user commented in. What about all the other users' posts? What about historically interesting things?
But we were talking about the how the concept of being stopped is somehow operating is a bullshit concept in the law in this case. Hence I know what the law technically says and think it is wrong and gave various reasons. In fact this all started when I said we should be more concerned with safety than giving fines for technical violations.
So when you blurted out: "Selfish assholes distracting themselves while operating a motor vehicle very much is a safety issue." Which, as I explained, is a strawman because using a cell phone while stopped is the safe way to do it but you left out the stopped part and tried to make it about something else. Whether trying to ignore the stopped part and talk about operating(driving) or using legal definitions is the superficially similar replacement. I wasn't talking about either of those.
One would think, considering that your argument is pretty much a field of them, scattered with an utter lack of understanding in regards to how the US legal system operates.
I'm not quite sure what "one would think" in this case? Did you forget to finish the sentence? A field of what? Strawmen? I didn't make any; I was always talking about the very specific case of being stopped. My knowledge of the US legal system has absolutely no effect on my reasoning or beliefs about this being a bogus use of the legal system. Trying to allude that I'm somehow wrong because of lack of knowledge on an unrelated topic is yet another logical fallacy.
However, indicating that I know that it is technically considered operating in the legal sense and that I believe that that is wrong indicates that I do have at least a little understanding of the US legal system. So I guess you missed the mark again.
To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and to refute it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.
By changing "stopped at a red light" to "operating" you have set up a strawman because you are ignoring the whole stopped part. This makes you think you've made a compelling argument because operation of a vehicle should not be done while unreasonably distracted. Most people would not consider "stopped" to be a form of "operating" and it is definitely not "driving".
Yea, good luck using that defense in court.
I am not defending it in court nor does that have any bearing on my reasoning on whether or not ticketing a stopped car is bogus. Try reading this as well to learn why that is also a useless argument.
So you see I do know what a strawman is. Hopefully now you do as well.
What is your reasoning for that? None of the other cops are doing this so it is obvious that this particular one is an "ass hat". There is absolutely nothing wrong with blaming everyone involved with bad laws.
when they banned his IP and MAC address, Aaron Swartz simply changed them both. That's not acting in good faith
You mean kind of like knowing writing fake reviews on Yelp is against their end user agreement so using ip spoofing to avoid detection? Sounds like it's almost the identical thing to me.
Why are you calling tech support with such absurd questions? Just to be indignant and rude to them? These people are there to support people that can't get their computer to work. If you want to ask awkwardly worded questions about gaming performance and insult people then go to gaming forums. That's what they specialise in. Do you really think companies should try to hire a bunch of incredibly well educated engineers to constantly answer: "Your PC won't turn on because it's unplugged" ?
Cultural differences are going to cause problems but I don't see how "highly detailed specs" could be misinterpreted based on not interacting with locals. Specs should be specs. Is it possible for you to go into more detail? I'm fairly curious now.
Why does somebody have to hire an entire team (I'm sure there are some BB10 teams Apple or Google would be interested in though). Whether those teams go to a new company together, apart or stay where they are is definitely a topic of discussion. No matter how you spin it there is a talented pool of devs whose jobs are a little in the air right now. Where might they go? How might they go? Who would benefit?
The reason I mentioned WebOS was because of this man: Matias Duarte. He left Palm after its acquisition to become a major and positive contribution to Android.
From what I can see their market share only just fell below Windows Phone in Q2-2013 and even then just barely. So although still bad not quite as awful as you paint it.
1) their workforce, which isn't worth much since they're experts in a dead OS
I know right? All of those people that worked on the now dead Palm WebOS were useless afterwards and never went on to do anything successful... The people that wrote NextStep too. Nothing good came out of that.
One of the nice things about software development (or indeed most anything) is all the things you learn at one job make you more prepared for any subsequent job.
2) their patents.
Which seems to be a favourite topic here at Slashdot.
Obviously it is something worth discussing or it wouldn't be here with a bunch of people discussing it. Unless Dice really has decided Slashdot is worth nothing more than lame, overplayed sex jokes.
What are you talking about? First of all BlackBerry is a Canadian company so your spiel about the tea party and foodstamps is more trite garbage.
They still have a large workforce, tonnes of patents and their own OS ecosystem. There interesting things to be discussed other than lame jokes. I know Slashdot has made lame and tired jokes into an art-form but it would be nice if it didn't fully take the place of real discussion.
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ARM is capable of performing at or near Jaguar levels.
That's something you are going to have to back up.
There's plenty of games out there already for iOS/Android so the architecture isn't a roadblock.
Plenty of games out there for 68K too. That does not mean it is as capable is x86. I do not care what games you play on your phone. They are not the same class as big PC games like Half Life. It is a simple fact that x86 has more raw power than ARM. There is no technical reason ARM could not be improved to a point that it is as powerful as x86 but it is not there now.
Architecture is a roadblock when one architecture provides serious performance gains.
If she's stupid enough to let people see her wearing that then she deserves what she gets!
Stay classy slashdot. Keep blaming the victim.
Exactly. It's stupid because you don't do it. It doesn't matter how much reasoning you tack on. It's clear you've decided it's stupid because you don't want to do it.
People do this kind of thing because it's fun and enjoyable. Instead of blaming the victim why don't we blame the assholes that are ruining the fun for the rest of us?
there have been some upgrades
Making the texture resolution a little bigger and turning on smooth-shading and anti-aliasing is still not graphically intensive.
It's no Crysis
You're damn right it's not. It's also no Half Life 1 yet you are using it as an example of how Half Life 3 will work on an ARM system.
Carmageddon is in no way graphically intensive by today's standards (or any standards in the last 10 years). That is why you see it on a phone.
Carmageddon?! That's your example? An MS-DOS game? An older game indeed. I don't think people are going to be lining up to buy a device that will only play 16 year old games.
You and the rest of the world may have a largely different definition of "graphically intensive".
If 8 Bobcat derived cores can handle the PS4/XBox One, then a collection of high end ARM cores can handle a decent GPU
That does not follow. Jaguar (the bobcat derived you were talking about) is still an x86 architecture. It also includes many of the fancy x86 features. Why do you think everyone is using x86 for these things? Because it is up to the task now. They don't have to design/fab some complex new ARM design that no one knows how to use just to compete with what already exists in the x86 space. Remember how well Cell worked out for IBM and Sony?
You haven't used many live CDs have you? Yes you can run purely from the CD, and yes, then you can't save anything. But most allow you to save to hard disk just like any other OS.
I've used them extensively. Where is your live CD going to save stuff on the harddrive? Is it going to just make itself a partition? Or are you expecting gamers to figure this out without constantly breaking their machines?
And the idea that "Messing around with the boot loader is not very easy" is just silly. every modern Linux distro out there offers to install a bootloader for you if you already have windows. It rarely causes problems and people who have no idea what they are doing successfully complete installs all the time.
If you are installing Linux then you either have an idea of what a bootloader is or can quickly figure it out but most likely you have fairly intricate knowledge of how the bootloader works because you've had it broken multiple times in the past. If you work a lot with multi-boot systems you've most likely had a bootloader failure at some point or another. Luckily Grub and the Windows boot loader are painless to fix once you've had to do it a couple of times.
There is a reason why the popular OSes pretty much just claim a computer as wholly their own.
There is an update and you must download and burn a new disc to continue playing this game.
That, among many other reasons, is why such a thing would not work as a live CD. Messing with a user's bootloader when the user has no idea what that is is not "very easy". It is a sure path to failure.
it'll probably work the same way games are released for Windows, OS X, and desktop Linux
The fact that they all run the same architecture? Hint: x86 not ARM.
You don't actually think a game that requires a GPU that takes probably an order of magnitude more power than an entire ARM device is just a recompile away do you?
Why do you keep posting this?! The whole point of responsive design is to adapt to the user. If you want two windows side-by-side it will work. If I want one big window on then it will also work. Do you not see how that is better? And foolishly limiting what the user can do is seen as worse?
So if your monitor is as big as a two-page monitor, you can unmaximize your and display two web pages in 960-pixel-wide windows
I have two screens for that. And it is still not an excuse to dictate the width of the content. If the content filled the width of the viewport then I can choose to have it fullscreen or halfscreen and both would work well.
Being able to refer to the article in replies to other Slashdot users' comments is a one-way ticket to more (Score:5, Informative) posts.
You're not even new here.. You should know by now that being correct is one of the least reliable means of getting +5.
I guess that's why we all abandoned Slashdot years ago...
Because a user's data is so very often mixed with other users' data. Sometimes it is not easily identified as a certain user's data. And sometimes there are just no provisions for removing that stuff and doing so would be labour intensive.
There is a picture with 5 people in it. One person wants their data removed (not untagged; removed). What about the other four people in the picture? Too bad for them the picture's gone?
A forum user wants their data removed. Entire threads would have to be purged from the forum that the user commented in. What about all the other users' posts? What about historically interesting things?
But we were talking about the how the concept of being stopped is somehow operating is a bullshit concept in the law in this case. Hence I know what the law technically says and think it is wrong and gave various reasons. In fact this all started when I said we should be more concerned with safety than giving fines for technical violations.
So when you blurted out: "Selfish assholes distracting themselves while operating a motor vehicle very much is a safety issue." Which, as I explained, is a strawman because using a cell phone while stopped is the safe way to do it but you left out the stopped part and tried to make it about something else. Whether trying to ignore the stopped part and talk about operating(driving) or using legal definitions is the superficially similar replacement. I wasn't talking about either of those.
One would think, considering that your argument is pretty much a field of them, scattered with an utter lack of understanding in regards to how the US legal system operates.
I'm not quite sure what "one would think" in this case? Did you forget to finish the sentence? A field of what? Strawmen? I didn't make any; I was always talking about the very specific case of being stopped. My knowledge of the US legal system has absolutely no effect on my reasoning or beliefs about this being a bogus use of the legal system. Trying to allude that I'm somehow wrong because of lack of knowledge on an unrelated topic is yet another logical fallacy.
However, indicating that I know that it is technically considered operating in the legal sense and that I believe that that is wrong indicates that I do have at least a little understanding of the US legal system. So I guess you missed the mark again.
To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and to refute it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.
Straw man
By changing "stopped at a red light" to "operating" you have set up a strawman because you are ignoring the whole stopped part. This makes you think you've made a compelling argument because operation of a vehicle should not be done while unreasonably distracted. Most people would not consider "stopped" to be a form of "operating" and it is definitely not "driving".
Yea, good luck using that defense in court.
I am not defending it in court nor does that have any bearing on my reasoning on whether or not ticketing a stopped car is bogus. Try reading this as well to learn why that is also a useless argument.
So you see I do know what a strawman is. Hopefully now you do as well.
They are no more operating a motor vehicle than if they are stopped in a parking lot. Give it up with the strawmen.
Or, you know.. you could start being more concerned about safety than giving fines.
What is your reasoning for that? None of the other cops are doing this so it is obvious that this particular one is an "ass hat". There is absolutely nothing wrong with blaming everyone involved with bad laws.
when they banned his IP and MAC address, Aaron Swartz simply changed them both. That's not acting in good faith
You mean kind of like knowing writing fake reviews on Yelp is against their end user agreement so using ip spoofing to avoid detection? Sounds like it's almost the identical thing to me.
Why are you calling tech support with such absurd questions? Just to be indignant and rude to them? These people are there to support people that can't get their computer to work. If you want to ask awkwardly worded questions about gaming performance and insult people then go to gaming forums. That's what they specialise in. Do you really think companies should try to hire a bunch of incredibly well educated engineers to constantly answer: "Your PC won't turn on because it's unplugged" ?
Cultural differences are going to cause problems but I don't see how "highly detailed specs" could be misinterpreted based on not interacting with locals. Specs should be specs. Is it possible for you to go into more detail? I'm fairly curious now.
Why does somebody have to hire an entire team (I'm sure there are some BB10 teams Apple or Google would be interested in though). Whether those teams go to a new company together, apart or stay where they are is definitely a topic of discussion. No matter how you spin it there is a talented pool of devs whose jobs are a little in the air right now. Where might they go? How might they go? Who would benefit?
The reason I mentioned WebOS was because of this man: Matias Duarte. He left Palm after its acquisition to become a major and positive contribution to Android.
From what I can see their market share only just fell below Windows Phone in Q2-2013 and even then just barely. So although still bad not quite as awful as you paint it.
1) their workforce, which isn't worth much since they're experts in a dead OS
I know right? All of those people that worked on the now dead Palm WebOS were useless afterwards and never went on to do anything successful... The people that wrote NextStep too. Nothing good came out of that.
One of the nice things about software development (or indeed most anything) is all the things you learn at one job make you more prepared for any subsequent job.
2) their patents.
Which seems to be a favourite topic here at Slashdot.
Obviously it is something worth discussing or it wouldn't be here with a bunch of people discussing it. Unless Dice really has decided Slashdot is worth nothing more than lame, overplayed sex jokes.
What are you talking about? First of all BlackBerry is a Canadian company so your spiel about the tea party and foodstamps is more trite garbage.
They still have a large workforce, tonnes of patents and their own OS ecosystem. There interesting things to be discussed other than lame jokes. I know Slashdot has made lame and tired jokes into an art-form but it would be nice if it didn't fully take the place of real discussion.
The adults would like to discuss the effects of a major tech company being sold off. Please go back to commenting on YouTube.