Obviously not a philosopher......you forget that as for explaining everything out of nothing there is no theory. No one has ever said that there was nothing before the Big Bang because it would be philosophically preposterous. There was always some force that acted on another force. Where on earth (or in heaven) did these forces come from. If there was nothing then there was no energy. And if there was energy before the Big Bang then it would have to be eternal and self-sustaining to not need another theory to explain it. Eternal and self sustaining sounds a lot like a monotheistic God to me.
I love the fact that you compared scientific theories - a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact - with made up fairy tales. The truth is that science was never designed to testify for historical events. Think about it for a moment. The scientific theory only "proves" what is likely to happen in the future. The scientific theory "proves" that the magnetic needle in a compass will always point north, yet there are legitimate scientific evidence that proves that the poles flip flop also. Supposedly within the next 1000 years a scientific fact as sure as the compass on a needle pointing north will change. Science can not even prove that George Washington was the president of the United States. You know what proves that? Historical testimony, that is something that creationism has much more of on it's side. I think that testimony should weigh into the discussion some and not be completely discredited for the sake of science. If you want to explain what is going to happen tomorrow with science that might be ok, but science can not and was never ment to explain the past.
I do find it funny that Galileo fought so hard to overthrow the tyranny of the Catholic Church being so closed minded to different ideas and yet little did he know that he was paving the way for the tyranny of scientists who refuse to allow equal expression of different ideas.....why can't we let the kids decide for themselves?.....i thought that was the beauty of a an educational system.....equipping people to make decisions not just be handed them.
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Obviously not a philosopher......you forget that as for explaining everything out of nothing there is no theory. No one has ever said that there was nothing before the Big Bang because it would be philosophically preposterous. There was always some force that acted on another force. Where on earth (or in heaven) did these forces come from. If there was nothing then there was no energy. And if there was energy before the Big Bang then it would have to be eternal and self-sustaining to not need another theory to explain it. Eternal and self sustaining sounds a lot like a monotheistic God to me.
I love the fact that you compared scientific theories - a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact - with made up fairy tales. The truth is that science was never designed to testify for historical events. Think about it for a moment. The scientific theory only "proves" what is likely to happen in the future. The scientific theory "proves" that the magnetic needle in a compass will always point north, yet there are legitimate scientific evidence that proves that the poles flip flop also. Supposedly within the next 1000 years a scientific fact as sure as the compass on a needle pointing north will change. Science can not even prove that George Washington was the president of the United States. You know what proves that? Historical testimony, that is something that creationism has much more of on it's side. I think that testimony should weigh into the discussion some and not be completely discredited for the sake of science. If you want to explain what is going to happen tomorrow with science that might be ok, but science can not and was never ment to explain the past.
I do find it funny that Galileo fought so hard to overthrow the tyranny of the Catholic Church being so closed minded to different ideas and yet little did he know that he was paving the way for the tyranny of scientists who refuse to allow equal expression of different ideas.....why can't we let the kids decide for themselves?.....i thought that was the beauty of a an educational system.....equipping people to make decisions not just be handed them.