by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 13, @05:52PM EDT (#176) Have you ever used AOL? yes, its slow like any dialup: But What about the HISH SPEED AOL PROMISES? Been spammed by AOL? yes, but also been spammed from about every domain out there.. most spammers don't use a real email anyways. YOU ARE RIGHT OF COURSE, BUT SOMEHOW AOL GETS MORE THAN ITS FAIR SHARE Been repeatedly knocked offline by AOL because you were eating supper and trying to download new drivers for a video card at the 'high speeds' and didn't feel like sitting in front of a computer to hit the anti-idle popup while watching the bar roll slowly across the screen? yes, many years ago when i had dialup i experienced this... but guess what the great thing about tci is, they provide you with a 24/7 connection.. no idle knockoffs UNLESS AOL DOES ITS WONDERFUL LITTLE DISC AND RECONNECT LIKE THEY DID WITH DIALUP Yes I am upset that AOL chooses to invade a perfectly good ISP. Now what will the results be from this? the results will be alot more people will get to use a "perfectly good ISP" like me and you are currently doing ISNT THIS ALL WE NEED? PERHAPS THEY SHOULD WORK ON THE BACKBONE BEFORE THEY ADD MORE CUSTOMERS? HMMM? Perhaps a 'great' AOL login? tci made the decision last year to remove all login software for 2 reasons: 1) it was annoying to customers 2) to allow users to choose any operating system to use with the service. the login program is gone in over half the cities and is being removed in the rest, most cities now work based on your adapter address OH BUT WE MIGHT GO BACK TO AOL LOGIN"S>>>HMMM ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE NOT LOOKING AT THE FUTURE TOO MUCH How about support for my Linux boxes? see the last answer, tci is committed to making the customer happy and relized they needed to make it easier for linux, *bsd, beos and other o/s users to get on... but they do not offer technical support for these o/s's (unless you call and get a friendly tech) If AOL leaves current RR customers alone, will their service be degraded in favor of those who have both cable and AOL? we probably won't see a merger of rr and aol, aol will likely get on the cable lines but thats about the closest they'll come. SO YOU WORK FOR THEM? YOU HAVE SEEN THE INSIDE OF STEVE CASE'S MIND? HOW YA DOING GOD... My area currently has between 40-50 thousand RR users. -and what area is this? there are only 200,000 rr customers nationwide...YOU MIGHT WANT TO BONE UP ON A FEW MORE FACTS...CHECK THE STATS FOR SAN DIEGO COUNTY...IT HAPPENS TO HAVE THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF INET CONNECTION IN AMERICA We experience routine outages and have had upload speeds capped to 30kBytes(I'm sure some people find this to be fast) where as it had been well over 100kBytes. -tci has not capped any upload or download speeds anywhere, but as more users do log on it may seem as though they are capped..PERHAPS YOU CAN'T QUITE READ...A CAP MEANS CONSTANT MAX...IF IT WAS DUE TO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THEN I WOULD SEE MORE VERY LATE AT NITE AND THE 30K DURING THE DAY OR PEAK TIMES..INSTEAD IT STAYS CONSTANT --30K-- HMM THIS SOUNDS LIKE A CAP TO ME AND SINCE @HOME CUSTOMERS ARE NOT EXPERIENCING THE SAME KIND OF CAP..IT WOULD STAND TO REASON THAT THERE IS INDEED A CAP..MORON Perhaps this merger will result in more speed for the home users, but more speed at the cost of using a dumbed down interface does not equal anywhere near good news. Judging by other replies to this merger I am quite sure many people feel the same way. - a bunch of people complaining when they're not educated about the topic makes them right? WELL YOU DO SEEM PRETTY EDUCATED..WHAT ABOUT 5TH GRADE? MOST PEOPLE HAVE USED AOL AND FOUND IT NOT QUITE UP TO THEIR STANDARDS..PERHAPS WE SHOULD ALL LOWER OUT STANDARDS TO YOUR LEVEL...WHAT IS THAT ANYWAY...AOL CHATROOMS?
Bravo..Bravo...It is too bad it was not your plan. In another 10 years you would be rich beyond imagining, providing of course that no one has the marbles to stop it.(Do we really think Steve Case is this bright?) Sounds like what Apple/Mac are trying to do now...long range planning...Kids use them in school and when they get out..well what kind of computer do you think they will buy? hmmm...I can just see the 'bad' kids at school, wearing black leather jackets of course, talking about using non-AOL INet connections...HeH
Have you ever used AOL? Been spammed by AOL? Been repeatedly knocked offline by AOL because you were eating supper and trying to download new drivers for a video card at the 'high speeds' and didn't feel like sitting in front of a computer to hit the anti-idle popup while watching the bar roll slowly across the screen? Yes I am upset that AOL chooses to invade a perfectly good ISP. Now what will the results be from this? Perhaps a 'great' AOL login? How about support for my Linux boxes? If AOL leaves current RR customers alone, will their service be degraded in favor of those who have both cable and AOL? My area currently has between 40-50 thousand RR users. We experience routine outages and have had upload speeds capped to 30kBytes(I'm sure some people find this to be fast) where as it had been well over 100kBytes. Perhaps this merger will result in more speed for the home users, but more speed at the cost of using a dumbed down interface does not equal anywhere near good news. Judging by other replies to this merger I am quite sure many people feel the same way.
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Good points. I really hope that this merger has no effect upon my current ISP, Road Runner. What will the effect of this merger be on my already limited BandWidth? Road Runner here in San Diego county has already begun to place caps on the upload throughput, dispite releases that they have not done so. Will my BandWidth be cut even further down, perhaps to accomodate millions of IM's? Will customers that pay that extortionant amount for AOL get preferred service versus those of us who don't care for the great 'content' AOL provides? Are there are to be changes made, such as a login that AOL requires or will I have to have screen name just to access the internet? Answers to these questions are what RR customers are looking for but not finding. I really hope this merger does not have any effect upon the regular Road Runner service but only time will tell.
Sorry but I do...So there..Just as you are entitled to your opinion, however misguided, SO AM I...And yes there are millions of IGNORANT AOL users...if you don't beleive me...well just ask them...most will tell you they don't know what they are doing...But you knew that didn't you...A point click world where when anything goes wrong they are unable to even attempt to fix it themselves...that is what is wrong with the world right now..most people have no clue as to how most of the items they use in their daily life actually work...no I'm not saying they have to be Ph.d's in toaster repair..but...blah...you would not listen anyways...Perhaps our society should continue on its downward spiral...Defending the ignorant is job I do everyday...wether you see it as such, well, I am one of those people who likes to get shot at so your dumbass can point and click...but i guess my opinion of this doesn't matter...Cause no matter what I say..i would be wrong in your eyes..geez..your opinion means what to others...Did you ever stop to realize that looking down on people actual helps them? And yes for a finale...YOU ARE JUST TOO DAMN GOOD FOR THIS WORLD..and I quote.."And the 22 million people who use AOL are not dorks. No, I don't use AOL, but I do not have contempt and disdain for those who do. Period." Nope not dorks...just ignorant of what the rest of the INet and the world has to offer them...basically you're telling me that you have never looked down at anyone...and since we know that is a LIE...well I guess the rest of your words mean very little also...Good day and please ask yourself "Have I ever looked down upon a one armed Viet vet, or a blind child, or even the poor beggar on the side of the road" When you answer that remember your own words...
Have you ever wondered what will hapen to the curent levels of Road Runner BW if all 500 million AOL users jump on the already overcrowded Time Warner cable system? san Diego has enough problems as it is and Time Warner is moe thna happy to add new users without adding more hardware..at least we don't get busy signals...
Did you ever think that he might be right? You must use AOL to defend it so much. I enjoy the freedom of choice and AOL did NOT allow me any in what I wanted to do. So keep chatting in AOL, geezus...I would love an AOL virus...one that basically takes AOL down for one whole day...just to see how you people would cope with life beyond the chatroom. Good Luck to you and your future AOL endavors, however limited they may seem...Remember it's so easy anyone can use it...There is a reason for that..Someone likes your money...22 bucks a month sounds like a steal along with the extra phone line...what another 11-15 dollars a month...Makes AOL almost the cost of a decent DSL or cable service doesn't it...So realize whose pocket you are filling and why...Sorry You just make it so easy to berate most of the AOL community...
HeHe...all i want Time Warner for is its cable modem connection to the internet...no software...no e-pooh...just a connection..i can find my own hardware/software/groceries/content. I don't need their content. I will admit the Road Runner University is nice, courses being offered at my convenience...As far as AOL goes....well it can just go...the same place all those |Bleeped| CD's go...the trash.
Let's just say I'm worried. To Me AOL does equate to the devil. My local Road Runner service has been fighting just to keep users from changes services...constant Bandwidth problems as well as being capped to a 32kByte upload.Back when the service first started, over 1 and half years ago, I was able to do all my online gaming, upload files at over 100kBytes per sec, and basically had no trouble with downlads. I share your concerns for how adding AOL millions of basically uneducated users to an already overcrowded system will grossly affect out service. DSL has now moved into the options block. And just what will happen to my linux server..Well only time can answer that on but for once i would like to know what was going on before it actually leaves me serviceless.
So when this merger is complete, will I be stuck using AOL? No answers yet on this one. I'm really curious to see just where this leads. I had AOL in the past and when I quit I received numerous offers to rejoin AOL. Over 2 years later I am still being spammed by AOL. "No I do not want your 'great' services..I just want to be left alone!" So I went to a TimeWarner cable modem..thinking to get away from AOL forever...This really scares me..I can't sue AOL for constant spamming(i.e. one CD a week in the mail on average, constant email on my hotmail accounts,)at least and not have it held up in court. But I am ready for anything that will take the giant "Hi, we are big and we offer a lot of nothing" down a few notches...Sorry all, AOL just really annoys me.
LOL...COMPAQ cracks me up...So when they discover something better than the "vaunted Alpha chip" then waht...and if it happens to be an Intel chip...are they going to ea their words? Anyone own a Compaq...I'm ashamed to say my mother owns one. So far, we have been unable to install anything not blessed by the proprietary demons of hell. So simply put..I guess I will never buy a COMPAQ POS so their opinion, even based upon supposed facts, can simply be placed in the trash next to the AOL discs.
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by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 13, @05:52PM EDT (#176) Have you ever used AOL? yes, its slow like any dialup: But What about the HISH SPEED AOL PROMISES? Been spammed by AOL? yes, but also been spammed from about every domain out there.. most spammers don't use a real email anyways. YOU ARE RIGHT OF COURSE, BUT SOMEHOW AOL GETS MORE THAN ITS FAIR SHARE Been repeatedly knocked offline by AOL because you were eating supper and trying to download new drivers for a video card at the 'high speeds' and didn't feel like sitting in front of a computer to hit the anti-idle popup while watching the bar roll slowly across the screen? yes, many years ago when i had dialup i experienced this... but guess what the great thing about tci is, they provide you with a 24/7 connection.. no idle knockoffs UNLESS AOL DOES ITS WONDERFUL LITTLE DISC AND RECONNECT LIKE THEY DID WITH DIALUP Yes I am upset that AOL chooses to invade a perfectly good ISP. Now what will the results be from this? the results will be alot more people will get to use a "perfectly good ISP" like me and you are currently doing ISNT THIS ALL WE NEED? PERHAPS THEY SHOULD WORK ON THE BACKBONE BEFORE THEY ADD MORE CUSTOMERS? HMMM? Perhaps a 'great' AOL login? tci made the decision last year to remove all login software for 2 reasons: 1) it was annoying to customers 2) to allow users to choose any operating system to use with the service. the login program is gone in over half the cities and is being removed in the rest, most cities now work based on your adapter address OH BUT WE MIGHT GO BACK TO AOL LOGIN"S>>>HMMM ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE NOT LOOKING AT THE FUTURE TOO MUCH How about support for my Linux boxes? see the last answer, tci is committed to making the customer happy and relized they needed to make it easier for linux, *bsd, beos and other o/s users to get on... but they do not offer technical support for these o/s's (unless you call and get a friendly tech) If AOL leaves current RR customers alone, will their service be degraded in favor of those who have both cable and AOL? we probably won't see a merger of rr and aol, aol will likely get on the cable lines but thats about the closest they'll come. SO YOU WORK FOR THEM? YOU HAVE SEEN THE INSIDE OF STEVE CASE'S MIND? HOW YA DOING GOD... My area currently has between 40-50 thousand RR users. -and what area is this? there are only 200,000 rr customers nationwide...YOU MIGHT WANT TO BONE UP ON A FEW MORE FACTS...CHECK THE STATS FOR SAN DIEGO COUNTY...IT HAPPENS TO HAVE THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF INET CONNECTION IN AMERICA We experience routine outages and have had upload speeds capped to 30kBytes(I'm sure some people find this to be fast) where as it had been well over 100kBytes. -tci has not capped any upload or download speeds anywhere, but as more users do log on it may seem as though they are capped..PERHAPS YOU CAN'T QUITE READ...A CAP MEANS CONSTANT MAX...IF IT WAS DUE TO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THEN I WOULD SEE MORE VERY LATE AT NITE AND THE 30K DURING THE DAY OR PEAK TIMES..INSTEAD IT STAYS CONSTANT --30K-- HMM THIS SOUNDS LIKE A CAP TO ME AND SINCE @HOME CUSTOMERS ARE NOT EXPERIENCING THE SAME KIND OF CAP..IT WOULD STAND TO REASON THAT THERE IS INDEED A CAP..MORON Perhaps this merger will result in more speed for the home users, but more speed at the cost of using a dumbed down interface does not equal anywhere near good news. Judging by other replies to this merger I am quite sure many people feel the same way. - a bunch of people complaining when they're not educated about the topic makes them right? WELL YOU DO SEEM PRETTY EDUCATED..WHAT ABOUT 5TH GRADE? MOST PEOPLE HAVE USED AOL AND FOUND IT NOT QUITE UP TO THEIR STANDARDS..PERHAPS WE SHOULD ALL LOWER OUT STANDARDS TO YOUR LEVEL...WHAT IS THAT ANYWAY...AOL CHATROOMS?
Bravo..Bravo...It is too bad it was not your plan. In another 10 years you would be rich beyond imagining, providing of course that no one has the marbles to stop it.(Do we really think Steve Case is this bright?) Sounds like what Apple/Mac are trying to do now...long range planning...Kids use them in school and when they get out..well what kind of computer do you think they will buy? hmmm...I can just see the 'bad' kids at school, wearing black leather jackets of course, talking about using non-AOL INet connections...HeH
Have you ever used AOL? Been spammed by AOL? Been repeatedly knocked offline by AOL because you were eating supper and trying to download new drivers for a video card at the 'high speeds' and didn't feel like sitting in front of a computer to hit the anti-idle popup while watching the bar roll slowly across the screen? Yes I am upset that AOL chooses to invade a perfectly good ISP. Now what will the results be from this? Perhaps a 'great' AOL login? How about support for my Linux boxes? If AOL leaves current RR customers alone, will their service be degraded in favor of those who have both cable and AOL? My area currently has between 40-50 thousand RR users. We experience routine outages and have had upload speeds capped to 30kBytes(I'm sure some people find this to be fast) where as it had been well over 100kBytes. Perhaps this merger will result in more speed for the home users, but more speed at the cost of using a dumbed down interface does not equal anywhere near good news. Judging by other replies to this merger I am quite sure many people feel the same way.
Good points. I really hope that this merger has no effect upon my current ISP, Road Runner. What will the effect of this merger be on my already limited BandWidth? Road Runner here in San Diego county has already begun to place caps on the upload throughput, dispite releases that they have not done so. Will my BandWidth be cut even further down, perhaps to accomodate millions of IM's? Will customers that pay that extortionant amount for AOL get preferred service versus those of us who don't care for the great 'content' AOL provides? Are there are to be changes made, such as a login that AOL requires or will I have to have screen name just to access the internet? Answers to these questions are what RR customers are looking for but not finding. I really hope this merger does not have any effect upon the regular Road Runner service but only time will tell.
Sorry but I do...So there..Just as you are entitled to your opinion, however misguided, SO AM I...And yes there are millions of IGNORANT AOL users...if you don't beleive me...well just ask them...most will tell you they don't know what they are doing...But you knew that didn't you...A point click world where when anything goes wrong they are unable to even attempt to fix it themselves...that is what is wrong with the world right now..most people have no clue as to how most of the items they use in their daily life actually work...no I'm not saying they have to be Ph.d's in toaster repair..but...blah...you would not listen anyways...Perhaps our society should continue on its downward spiral...Defending the ignorant is job I do everyday...wether you see it as such, well, I am one of those people who likes to get shot at so your dumbass can point and click...but i guess my opinion of this doesn't matter...Cause no matter what I say..i would be wrong in your eyes..geez..your opinion means what to others...Did you ever stop to realize that looking down on people actual helps them? And yes for a finale...YOU ARE JUST TOO DAMN GOOD FOR THIS WORLD..and I quote.."And the 22 million people who use AOL are not dorks. No, I don't use AOL, but I do not have contempt and disdain for those who do. Period." Nope not dorks...just ignorant of what the rest of the INet and the world has to offer them...basically you're telling me that you have never looked down at anyone...and since we know that is a LIE...well I guess the rest of your words mean very little also...Good day and please ask yourself "Have I ever looked down upon a one armed Viet vet, or a blind child, or even the poor beggar on the side of the road" When you answer that remember your own words...
But they keep trying don't they...Hey can I send you all my AOL coasters? I'm running out of room...
Have you ever wondered what will hapen to the curent levels of Road Runner BW if all 500 million AOL users jump on the already overcrowded Time Warner cable system? san Diego has enough problems as it is and Time Warner is moe thna happy to add new users without adding more hardware..at least we don't get busy signals...
Did you ever think that he might be right? You must use AOL to defend it so much. I enjoy the freedom of choice and AOL did NOT allow me any in what I wanted to do. So keep chatting in AOL, geezus...I would love an AOL virus...one that basically takes AOL down for one whole day...just to see how you people would cope with life beyond the chatroom. Good Luck to you and your future AOL endavors, however limited they may seem...Remember it's so easy anyone can use it...There is a reason for that..Someone likes your money...22 bucks a month sounds like a steal along with the extra phone line...what another 11-15 dollars a month...Makes AOL almost the cost of a decent DSL or cable service doesn't it...So realize whose pocket you are filling and why...Sorry You just make it so easy to berate most of the AOL community...
HeHe...all i want Time Warner for is its cable modem connection to the internet...no software...no e-pooh...just a connection..i can find my own hardware/software/groceries/content. I don't need their content. I will admit the Road Runner University is nice, courses being offered at my convenience...As far as AOL goes....well it can just go...the same place all those |Bleeped| CD's go...the trash.
Let's just say I'm worried. To Me AOL does equate to the devil. My local Road Runner service has been fighting just to keep users from changes services...constant Bandwidth problems as well as being capped to a 32kByte upload.Back when the service first started, over 1 and half years ago, I was able to do all my online gaming, upload files at over 100kBytes per sec, and basically had no trouble with downlads. I share your concerns for how adding AOL millions of basically uneducated users to an already overcrowded system will grossly affect out service. DSL has now moved into the options block. And just what will happen to my linux server..Well only time can answer that on but for once i would like to know what was going on before it actually leaves me serviceless.
So when this merger is complete, will I be stuck using AOL? No answers yet on this one. I'm really curious to see just where this leads. I had AOL in the past and when I quit I received numerous offers to rejoin AOL. Over 2 years later I am still being spammed by AOL. "No I do not want your 'great' services..I just want to be left alone!" So I went to a TimeWarner cable modem..thinking to get away from AOL forever...This really scares me..I can't sue AOL for constant spamming(i.e. one CD a week in the mail on average, constant email on my hotmail accounts,)at least and not have it held up in court. But I am ready for anything that will take the giant "Hi, we are big and we offer a lot of nothing" down a few notches...Sorry all, AOL just really annoys me.
LOL...COMPAQ cracks me up...So when they discover something better than the "vaunted Alpha chip" then waht...and if it happens to be an Intel chip...are they going to ea their words? Anyone own a Compaq...I'm ashamed to say my mother owns one. So far, we have been unable to install anything not blessed by the proprietary demons of hell. So simply put..I guess I will never buy a COMPAQ POS so their opinion, even based upon supposed facts, can simply be placed in the trash next to the AOL discs.