No dumbass you have reading comprehension problems for the third time I said a car should be selected based on engineering and practicality. Troll much loser?
If you were trying to make fun of me you really failed. My point was check out the engineering and practicality not the machismo or mass marketed pseudo hip trendiness, epic fail, try again.
Ironically the weak stupid submissive ones (known as conformists) are the ones that put a larger priority on the "face" than the engineering of the car. I believe it's called overcompensation. I for one am not afraid to drive a Toyota Corolla because I know it's a good value, will last forever, and for a car is less harmful to the environment than most other cars, and guess what I don't give a rats ass what it's "face" looks like.
If you pick a car that looks like a douchebag outside the driver inside is probably a douchebag as well, sigh:( Why Americans see the angry aggressive asshole stance as "good" is beyond me, it certainly isn't winning us many friends in the world. Welcome to Assholetopia this is your new HUMVEE, sigh!
Investing 50 billion to save 300 billion that is... Why can't we edit repsonses here after we make them? Slashdot's comment system is sooooo stone age, sigh.
Mod parent up insightful! Hint hitting the wasp nest of terrorist harboring countries with a baseball does nothing but infuriate the terrorists for you CAN'T kill them all when they hide in the population. Air strikes just increase recruitment.
Here is another riddle what EXACTLY do programs like nuclear subs do in fighting terrorism? Bonus points for links to actual research and not just spouting neo-con talking points you heard on O'Relly and talking vaguely of "national defense" How does missile defense help us when it can be defated by child's mylar ballons? Again bonus points for real research to refute my points and not just vague platitudes.
And no a non military response does NOT mean doing nothing, hint the British ended IRA terrorism with diligent police work and not bombing Ireland back to the stone age. Too bad irrational thirst for revenge tinged with more than a little racism that discounts the value of brown lives blinded to better, longer term solutions to the terrorist problem.
Hint #2 we could feed all the world people for about 50 billion a year. This would certainly help drain the swamp of the bitter young hopeless men who are easy targets for Al Queda recruitment. If we did that and it worked we could probably cut military spending in half and save 300 billion by closing the vast majority of overseas military bases. How would you like if the Chinese had a military base here? Be honest in your answer. Investing 300 billion to save 300 billion sounds pretty good to me. And having the U.S. know not for an empire of bases but rather a network of real substantive foreign aid out posts that is feeding the world would make me proud to be an American. And now that we are committing crimes against humanity like torture and bombing cvilians? Not so much...
"The more I learn about science, the more my faith in God increases"
Like I am going to take advice on funding NASA from a fundie creationist neo-con. Haven't you people done enough damage to society already without advocating for defunding basic science research? Here is a hint you people lost and lost your "mandate and politcal capital" as your no doubt hero Bush put it in 2004, time for you to sit down STFU and come up with some new talking points. Meanwhile the rest of us are going to go on with stem cell research, alternative energy, and other USEFUL investments of the publics money and you are just going to have to deal, hopefully without whining too much.
Money invested in NASA DOES come back to you dumbass, hint the I.C.s in the computer you are typing your Slashdot posts on were very much incubated by NASA for use in the space program.
And above and beyond those practical materialistic considerations is the joy and wonder of expanding human knowledge. Or we could let some self proclaimed pseudo Libertarian keep the money to "invest" in more landscaping for their pretentious mini mansion. I know which choice I'd make, sigh.
And yes it's very legitimate to debate WHERE NASA ought to spend it's money I think projects like Hubbell and space robots give us better bang for the buck than manned exploration, but in the bigger picture NASA ought to be getting more money, not less if the U.S. is to maintain world class science research.
if your attitude is really that once a President is elcted they have carte balnche then I don't want to hear ANY whining from you if Obama actually spends 160 billion on green energy, m'K?
That is unfortunate. It however doesn't undercut my main point that the good positive lefty parts of Swedish society lead to the good outcome of reduced suffering while maintaining a thriving economy.
Good luck overturning your regressive immigration laws.
On a more serious note need I remind you when Bush won by a FAR smaller margin in 2004 he said "I have a mandate , I have political capitol and aim to spend it" which is VERY arrogant when he won by a very small margin and some question whether he won at all due to vote tampering in Ohio. You bullying regressives are damn lucky Obama is being very moderate, bipartisan (too much so IMO)and gracious in his victory. And if you want to talk about bitter losers I remember Rush and O'Reilly harping on Bill Clinton YEARS after he left office, but I suppose that doesn't bother you at all because you agree with it, right?
The bottom line is your philosophy isn't too popular in America now due to Bush's policies leading to a disastrous costly war and a 4 TRILLION dollar bailout. perhaps it's time you rethought some things, m;K?
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"Isn't part of a troll mod the impression that your post leaves on the reader?
Is very inaccurate according to what slashdots own definition of the troll mod is:
"Troll -- A Troll is similar to Flamebait, but slightly more refined. This is a prank comment intended to provoke indignant (or just confused) responses. A Troll might mix up vital facts or otherwise distort reality, to make other readers react with helpful "corrections." Trolling is the online equivalent of intentionally dialing wrong numbers just to waste other people's time."
I assure you my anger at right wingers is not a "prank" and I am not trying to "waste other peoples time" but rather I hope once the facts about right wing sociopathy are more broadly discussed that other people will get angry as well. Dissatisfaction in turn hopefully leads to outcry for positive humanistic sustainable change something very far from a prank indeed. I suspect many people on slashdot who mindlessly hit the troll button have never read the above paragraph and thus have no idea what "troll" really means. If people are going to mod responsibly they owe to themselves to read slashdot's own definition of mod terms IMO.
If my tone seems snide, dismissive, and cynical at times I assure you that is only a reaction to right wing ignorant dismissiveness, misplaced smugness, bullying, and hectoring that IMO ought to be called out in the strongest terms if the U.S. is to not go down a quite literally fascist path. And no it's not a Godwin when people start to behave like actual Nazis laughing at hungry people living with festering sores in the gutter.
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No the fact is I HATE greedy right wingers who are so self centered that they don't care if others suffer as long as they have got theirs. The point isn't to provoke, it is a quite sincere expression of my loathing and disgust for needless cruelty, and yes it is needless for European "socialist" countries don't have near the poverty problems we have in the U.S., while ALSO having a thriving private sector thus it doesn't crush innovation as Libertarians disingenuously claim. Looked at the Euro v.s. the dollar lately? The fact that I am angry about this isn't "trollish" behavior but rather proves I still have some feeling for my brother and sister human beings, something I feel to be genuinely disgustingly lacking in the American right. "Compassionate conservative" Bush started an unnecessary war of aggression in Iraq a country that did NOTHING to us that cost a million innocent lives (1/6th the number the Nazis killed) and killed 4000+ young poverty drafted American and cost a trillion dollars. IMO if that doesn't make you angry you aren't paying attention. Getting angry over things that ought to make ANY thinking feeling person angry is not trollish it's being a decent human being IMO.
Criticize my tone if you must but I maintain troll is inaccurate as I am being quite sincere that my intention isn't too pointlessly provoke but to get people to THINK about the consequences of right wing sociopathic greed and the FACT that it makes many of us who are poor and against wars of aggression quite angry. I know anger isn't p.c. anymore but too fucking bad that is just a mechanism to suppress change IMO. The root of real deep change is systemic dissatisfaction with the status quo, count on it, Martin Luther King advised not taking the "tranquilizing drug of gradualism." Just because being calm and moderate and accepting whatever comes down the pike no matter how vicious and cruel it is is trendy among the upper middle class demographic that tends to read slashdot, it does not automatically follow that is the most ethical stance towards life. Something to think about the next time you are tempted to mod someone outraged by systematic right wing cruelty "troll."
Interesting to hear. Have you been to the U.S. before and if you have how would you say the homeless and poverty problem compares here to Sweden?
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"What's a greed ball?" if you have to ask you probably are one, look in the mirror and tell me, m'K? Now THAT is a troll, see the difference?
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Moderating me troll is inaccurate I believe EVERYTHING I typed there. Troll implies that I am just making things up to get a response which is NOT the case here. You can disagree with my tone which IS harsh, these things make me mad, but if you do then take 2 minutes to type a calm reasonable counter response while calling me me out on my tone, rather than just inaccurately marking me "troll," OK?
"Was it because CNN doesn't show that kind of thing as policy, or was it just because it was too close to home and they didn't want to upset people further?"
I'd say you pretty much answered your own question. For a more balanced perspective than U.S. corporate MSM I'd recommend:
Yeah this list is slanted to the left if you go to all these sites and balance it with the BBC and our center right to hard right corporate MSM, you can ALMOST figure out what's going on in the world. Good luck having a life though.:(
"If you want something, get off your ass and get after it."
Tell that to the ass sucking banksters who fly into D.C. in their private jets with their tin begging cups outstretched.
For literally 1/1000oth the cost of bailout of people who just last month were fierce Ayn Randian "free market," Libertarians and who now cry like stuck pigs for the government to coddle them as "too big to fail," we could roll out a lot of fiber rural and inner city urban areas. I for one would rather the money go to the downtrodden than to snide, fate, greedy, two faced hypocritical caviar eating on their Lear jet banksters.
And if it seems like I am angry you are right I am very fucking furious, I have had it up to here with right wing smug self centerdness, sociopathy, greed, cruelty and kicking the weak and poor into the gutter, while hypocritically begging for government bailouts while making millions per year and having multiple vacation "villas" grrrrrrrr!!!!!!
FUCK THAT COMPLETELY!!!!
You people lost decisively in the elections, time to stop acting entitled like you still run things, you don't. You need to take a time out, figure out what you did wrong, and come up with some new talking points.
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Leftism in a nutshell no hungry homeless people with festering sores on the streets of Swedish cities like we have in the U.S. AND a thriving high tech economy with a more stable banking system, stronger currency, and high rate of growth than the U.S.
All factual unlike AC's scurrilous unsupported smear he pulled out of his butthole.
Not anymore in America, with the economic collapse and Bush's thorough ass kicking in the elections sociopathic evil self centered greed ball neo-con pigs like yourself have been decisively repudiated in America. Have fun languishing on the marginal sidelines of American politics for 8 years.
Now go crawl back in your troll hole and fester some more while we build community wi-fi and other things to actually help ALL Americans join the 21st century information revolution for about 1/100th the cost of ONE jet bomber.
The same neighborhood pools that were segregated by banning blacks in the south as late as the late 1950s?
And the modern cyber equivalent would be only the middle and upper middle class would be able to afford net access under this system leading to a permanent marginally employed and under informed cyber underclass of "untouchable" manual laborers.
Thanks but no thanks. Hasn't the financial crises shown that the cut throat "ownership society" not only is not cruel and greedy, but doesn't work very well. Do we really want a fiber bubble and then fiber crash?
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It's freaking hilarious until someone tries and fails to make fun of YOU in a bullying mean mega jerk way, right?
No dumbass you have reading comprehension problems for the third time I said a car should be selected based on engineering and practicality. Troll much loser?
If you were trying to make fun of me you really failed. My point was check out the engineering and practicality not the machismo or mass marketed pseudo hip trendiness, epic fail, try again.
Ironically the weak stupid submissive ones (known as conformists) are the ones that put a larger priority on the "face" than the engineering of the car. I believe it's called overcompensation. I for one am not afraid to drive a Toyota Corolla because I know it's a good value, will last forever, and for a car is less harmful to the environment than most other cars, and guess what I don't give a rats ass what it's "face" looks like.
If you pick a car that looks like a douchebag outside the driver inside is probably a douchebag as well, sigh :( Why Americans see the angry aggressive asshole stance as "good" is beyond me, it certainly isn't winning us many friends in the world. Welcome to Assholetopia this is your new HUMVEE, sigh!
Investing 50 billion to save 300 billion that is... Why can't we edit repsonses here after we make them? Slashdot's comment system is sooooo stone age, sigh.
For every Dr. of science Christian I raise you 5 ignorant neo-con fundamentalists, law of average dude, cya.
Mod parent up insightful! Hint hitting the wasp nest of terrorist harboring countries with a baseball does nothing but infuriate the terrorists for you CAN'T kill them all when they hide in the population. Air strikes just increase recruitment.
Here is another riddle what EXACTLY do programs like nuclear subs do in fighting terrorism? Bonus points for links to actual research and not just spouting neo-con talking points you heard on O'Relly and talking vaguely of "national defense" How does missile defense help us when it can be defated by child's mylar ballons? Again bonus points for real research to refute my points and not just vague platitudes.
And no a non military response does NOT mean doing nothing, hint the British ended IRA terrorism with diligent police work and not bombing Ireland back to the stone age. Too bad irrational thirst for revenge tinged with more than a little racism that discounts the value of brown lives blinded to better, longer term solutions to the terrorist problem.
Hint #2 we could feed all the world people for about 50 billion a year. This would certainly help drain the swamp of the bitter young hopeless men who are easy targets for Al Queda recruitment. If we did that and it worked we could probably cut military spending in half and save 300 billion by closing the vast majority of overseas military bases. How would you like if the Chinese had a military base here? Be honest in your answer. Investing 300 billion to save 300 billion sounds pretty good to me. And having the U.S. know not for an empire of bases but rather a network of real substantive foreign aid out posts that is feeding the world would make me proud to be an American. And now that we are committing crimes against humanity like torture and bombing cvilians? Not so much...
@FatherofONe's sig:
"The more I learn about science, the more my faith in God increases"
Like I am going to take advice on funding NASA from a fundie creationist neo-con. Haven't you people done enough damage to society already without advocating for defunding basic science research? Here is a hint you people lost and lost your "mandate and politcal capital" as your no doubt hero Bush put it in 2004, time for you to sit down STFU and come up with some new talking points. Meanwhile the rest of us are going to go on with stem cell research, alternative energy, and other USEFUL investments of the publics money and you are just going to have to deal, hopefully without whining too much.
Money invested in NASA DOES come back to you dumbass, hint the I.C.s in the computer you are typing your Slashdot posts on were very much incubated by NASA for use in the space program.
And above and beyond those practical materialistic considerations is the joy and wonder of expanding human knowledge. Or we could let some self proclaimed pseudo Libertarian keep the money to "invest" in more landscaping for their pretentious mini mansion. I know which choice I'd make, sigh.
And yes it's very legitimate to debate WHERE NASA ought to spend it's money I think projects like Hubbell and space robots give us better bang for the buck than manned exploration, but in the bigger picture NASA ought to be getting more money, not less if the U.S. is to maintain world class science research.
Ok no whining then about how supporting sustainable energy is "socialism" or other such bull shit then OK?
"He had political capital and he blew it."
if your attitude is really that once a President is elcted they have carte balnche then I don't want to hear ANY whining from you if Obama actually spends 160 billion on green energy, m'K?
That is unfortunate. It however doesn't undercut my main point that the good positive lefty parts of Swedish society lead to the good outcome of reduced suffering while maintaining a thriving economy.
Good luck overturning your regressive immigration laws.
MCain is so similar to Bush I forgot. :)
On a more serious note need I remind you when Bush won by a FAR smaller margin in 2004 he said "I have a mandate , I have political capitol and aim to spend it" which is VERY arrogant when he won by a very small margin and some question whether he won at all due to vote tampering in Ohio. You bullying regressives are damn lucky Obama is being very moderate, bipartisan (too much so IMO)and gracious in his victory. And if you want to talk about bitter losers I remember Rush and O'Reilly harping on Bill Clinton YEARS after he left office, but I suppose that doesn't bother you at all because you agree with it, right?
The bottom line is your philosophy isn't too popular in America now due to Bush's policies leading to a disastrous costly war and a 4 TRILLION dollar bailout. perhaps it's time you rethought some things, m;K?
P.S. skroops your
"Isn't part of a troll mod the impression that your post leaves on the reader?
Is very inaccurate according to what slashdots own definition of the troll mod is:
"Troll -- A Troll is similar to Flamebait, but slightly more refined. This is a prank comment intended to provoke indignant (or just confused) responses. A Troll might mix up vital facts or otherwise distort reality, to make other readers react with helpful "corrections." Trolling is the online equivalent of intentionally dialing wrong numbers just to waste other people's time."
http://slashdot.org/faq/com-mod.shtml#cm2500
I assure you my anger at right wingers is not a "prank" and I am not trying to "waste other peoples time" but rather I hope once the facts about right wing sociopathy are more broadly discussed that other people will get angry as well. Dissatisfaction in turn hopefully leads to outcry for positive humanistic sustainable change something very far from a prank indeed. I suspect many people on slashdot who mindlessly hit the troll button have never read the above paragraph and thus have no idea what "troll" really means. If people are going to mod responsibly they owe to themselves to read slashdot's own definition of mod terms IMO.
If my tone seems snide, dismissive, and cynical at times I assure you that is only a reaction to right wing ignorant dismissiveness, misplaced smugness, bullying, and hectoring that IMO ought to be called out in the strongest terms if the U.S. is to not go down a quite literally fascist path. And no it's not a Godwin when people start to behave like actual Nazis laughing at hungry people living with festering sores in the gutter.
No the fact is I HATE greedy right wingers who are so self centered that they don't care if others suffer as long as they have got theirs. The point isn't to provoke, it is a quite sincere expression of my loathing and disgust for needless cruelty, and yes it is needless for European "socialist" countries don't have near the poverty problems we have in the U.S., while ALSO having a thriving private sector thus it doesn't crush innovation as Libertarians disingenuously claim. Looked at the Euro v.s. the dollar lately? The fact that I am angry about this isn't "trollish" behavior but rather proves I still have some feeling for my brother and sister human beings, something I feel to be genuinely disgustingly lacking in the American right. "Compassionate conservative" Bush started an unnecessary war of aggression in Iraq a country that did NOTHING to us that cost a million innocent lives (1/6th the number the Nazis killed) and killed 4000+ young poverty drafted American and cost a trillion dollars. IMO if that doesn't make you angry you aren't paying attention. Getting angry over things that ought to make ANY thinking feeling person angry is not trollish it's being a decent human being IMO.
Criticize my tone if you must but I maintain troll is inaccurate as I am being quite sincere that my intention isn't too pointlessly provoke but to get people to THINK about the consequences of right wing sociopathic greed and the FACT that it makes many of us who are poor and against wars of aggression quite angry. I know anger isn't p.c. anymore but too fucking bad that is just a mechanism to suppress change IMO. The root of real deep change is systemic dissatisfaction with the status quo, count on it, Martin Luther King advised not taking the "tranquilizing drug of gradualism." Just because being calm and moderate and accepting whatever comes down the pike no matter how vicious and cruel it is is trendy among the upper middle class demographic that tends to read slashdot, it does not automatically follow that is the most ethical stance towards life. Something to think about the next time you are tempted to mod someone outraged by systematic right wing cruelty "troll."
Interesting to hear. Have you been to the U.S. before and if you have how would you say the homeless and poverty problem compares here to Sweden?
"What's a greed ball?" if you have to ask you probably are one, look in the mirror and tell me, m'K? Now THAT is a troll, see the difference?
Moderating me troll is inaccurate I believe EVERYTHING I typed there. Troll implies that I am just making things up to get a response which is NOT the case here. You can disagree with my tone which IS harsh, these things make me mad, but if you do then take 2 minutes to type a calm reasonable counter response while calling me me out on my tone, rather than just inaccurately marking me "troll," OK?
Wow that was actually reasonable I'm un-"foeing" you.
@jester:
"Was it because CNN doesn't show that kind of thing as policy, or was it just because it was too close to home and they didn't want to upset people further?"
I'd say you pretty much answered your own question. For a more balanced perspective than U.S. corporate MSM I'd recommend:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/ (center left by European standards hard left by American standards)
http://antiwar.com/ (Libertarian anti imperialist excellent tracking of conflict around the world)
http://commondreams.org/ (Liberal/left compilation of news from around the world)
http://counterpunch.org/ (Hard left with occasional Libertarianesque essays)
http://www.lewrockwell.com/ ("anti state, anti war, pro market" essays)
Yeah this list is slanted to the left if you go to all these sites and balance it with the BBC and our center right to hard right corporate MSM, you can ALMOST figure out what's going on in the world. Good luck having a life though. :(
@ jcnnghm
"If you want something, get off your ass and get after it."
Tell that to the ass sucking banksters who fly into D.C. in their private jets with their tin begging cups outstretched.
For literally 1/1000oth the cost of bailout of people who just last month were fierce Ayn Randian "free market," Libertarians and who now cry like stuck pigs for the government to coddle them as "too big to fail," we could roll out a lot of fiber rural and inner city urban areas. I for one would rather the money go to the downtrodden than to snide, fate, greedy, two faced hypocritical caviar eating on their Lear jet banksters.
And if it seems like I am angry you are right I am very fucking furious, I have had it up to here with right wing smug self centerdness, sociopathy, greed, cruelty and kicking the weak and poor into the gutter, while hypocritically begging for government bailouts while making millions per year and having multiple vacation "villas" grrrrrrrr!!!!!!
FUCK THAT COMPLETELY!!!!
You people lost decisively in the elections, time to stop acting entitled like you still run things, you don't. You need to take a time out, figure out what you did wrong, and come up with some new talking points.
Leftism in a nutshell no hungry homeless people with festering sores on the streets of Swedish cities like we have in the U.S. AND a thriving high tech economy with a more stable banking system, stronger currency, and high rate of growth than the U.S.
All factual unlike AC's scurrilous unsupported smear he pulled out of his butthole.
Next!
Not anymore in America, with the economic collapse and Bush's thorough ass kicking in the elections sociopathic evil self centered greed ball neo-con pigs like yourself have been decisively repudiated in America. Have fun languishing on the marginal sidelines of American politics for 8 years.
Now go crawl back in your troll hole and fester some more while we build community wi-fi and other things to actually help ALL Americans join the 21st century information revolution for about 1/100th the cost of ONE jet bomber.
The same neighborhood pools that were segregated by banning blacks in the south as late as the late 1950s?
And the modern cyber equivalent would be only the middle and upper middle class would be able to afford net access under this system leading to a permanent marginally employed and under informed cyber underclass of "untouchable" manual laborers.
Thanks but no thanks. Hasn't the financial crises shown that the cut throat "ownership society" not only is not cruel and greedy, but doesn't work very well. Do we really want a fiber bubble and then fiber crash?
More Sweden, less Dicken's England please.