I don't get why we're still using JavaScript for everything. What we need is a bytecode-based platform like Java or.NET but completely open and managed by W3C, totally integrated in the browser instead of a plugin and with a minimal standard library that only does math, DOM, etc. It would sure as hell beat crazy hacks like compiling other languages to JavaScript.
Open source isn't a democracy any more than Planet Earth is. Different countries have different methods of administration. The only difference is that in the world of open source you can fork a country and run it any way you like, the worst case scenario being that no one moves there. Open source is more like a regulated anarchy in that sense, like the Internet.
When it gets down to it -- talking trade balances here -- once we've brain-drained all our technology into other countries, once things have evened out, they're making cars in Bolivia and microwave ovens in Tadzhikistan and selling them here -- once our edge in natural resources has been made irrelevant by giant Hong Kong ships and dirigibles that can ship North Dakota all the way to New Zealand for a nickel -- once the Invisible Hand has taken all those historical inequities and smeared them out into a broad global layer of what a Pakistani brickmaker would consider to be prosperity -- y'know what? There's only four things we do better than anyone else:
The problem isn't how to do it, the problem is how to make it interesting.
Java is a plugin with a huge standard library. Read my post again.
How exactly?
Standards bodies only enforce standards someone claims to follow but doesn't. That's not the case here.
It's not the W3C's fault that browsers only follow their standards 10 years after they're released.
Yeah, I don't know why we ever stopped using Fortran.
What are you talking about? It'd still be in the browser, just bytecode instead of JavaScript.
The idea is that it wouldn't be able to do anything JavaScript can't do now. It would just use bytecode instead of JavaScript.
You read page content but how often do you read, say, GMail's scripting?
What's the point of using an interpreted language when you could compile to, download and execute bytecode much more efficiently?
I don't get why we're still using JavaScript for everything. What we need is a bytecode-based platform like Java or .NET but completely open and managed by W3C, totally integrated in the browser instead of a plugin and with a minimal standard library that only does math, DOM, etc. It would sure as hell beat crazy hacks like compiling other languages to JavaScript.
You know that WebKit is based on KHTML right?
Now only 30% executed convict!
I'd say they've become more evil while MS became less evil actually.
Mod parent up. This is pathetic.
Open source isn't a democracy any more than Planet Earth is. Different countries have different methods of administration. The only difference is that in the world of open source you can fork a country and run it any way you like, the worst case scenario being that no one moves there. Open source is more like a regulated anarchy in that sense, like the Internet.
That might be true in theory but what are the chances that someone is going to use your unsupported fork just because the UI's slightly different?
I'm not going to reply to that. Maybe if you think about it you'll realize why.
If nuclear bombs could be constructed from everyday household items would you want the design to be public?
When it gets down to it -- talking trade balances here -- once we've brain-drained all our technology into other countries, once things have evened out, they're making cars in Bolivia and microwave ovens in Tadzhikistan and selling them here -- once our edge in natural resources has been made irrelevant by giant Hong Kong ships and dirigibles that can ship North Dakota all the way to New Zealand for a nickel -- once the Invisible Hand has taken all those historical inequities and smeared them out into a broad global layer of what a Pakistani brickmaker would consider to be prosperity -- y'know what? There's only four things we do better than anyone else:
And Dijkstra's algorithm for graphs, used on the Internet to this day.
It is well-known in our community that there is no scientific, firm way of actually completely verifying and validating software.
Looks like Toyota's suffering from a halting problem. ;)
So was Hitler. /godwin
What do you mean standard networks?
You mean like when DARPA created the Internet?