If it is so easy to abuse, why hasn't anyone been able to abuse it yet? It's been three weeks and no one has succeeded yet. (theres more to that of course)
Google is the only entity on the net not to have their encoded/encrypted urls cracked open. AOL, Goto, and Altavista's various encoding schemes have all been laid wide open.
Only Googles encoding scheme in the ie toolbar has not been hacked. If you'll look at the voting system, you'll find a similar system.
>but I think you under-rate the devious
>abilities of bored corporate minions
I think you underate the devious abilities of the corporate monster that Google has become. The vulture crowd did not bestow $20mil (that we know of) on Google for being nice guys.
Take a long look at this scheme of Googles. Many don't think it has anything to do with rating websites Upware, it's about weeding out the small ones that they can't profit from.
>I tend to trust Google too
Why?
- They use 1.6 billion pages of other people content from their site to do a branding job on themselves without prior consent.
- They use everyones graphics with out prior consent.
- They run carefuly crafted "grass roots" marketing campaigns that has even sucked in the likes of even/. in to supporting them (just a major corporation). So what - they use Linux.
- The effect of their algo is to promote corporate sites that will have money for advertising.
- They've never once acknowledged, justified, or admitted that the "cache" is may be legally dubious.
So what's to trust? As far as I can see, they are just another corporation out to make a buck on the internet at the small guys expense.
Where are you people getting this 'spam the system' bs from?
Don't you relize that Google is the ONLY search engine to put out a encryption system in their urls (ie toolbar) that has NEVER been cracked? Even Goto's expensive session tracker encrypted urls has has been hammered out.
Don'tcha think that if Goggle can do that with their own toolbar, they can do that with something as simple as a generated on the fly form submission. Of course they can.
Those that try to spam google will fastly find their sites and urls banned - for life.
Because descriptions rarely reflect the actual content on the page. No SERP is more useless than Googles "ransom note" results pages. Because the words I am searching for are located at paragraph 3 sentence 2 position 5, is no indication the page has whatever I am looking for at all.
If click traffic statistics were worth anything at all, DirectHit, Hotbot, and AOL from their own proxy cache data would rule the search engine world. Obviously, those three engines suck.
In the original message two weeks ago when Google announced the new beta reporting system over at Webmasterworld the Google tech in charge of the system said:
"Let me repeat that this is a test. I would not recommend trying to write a votebot. Remember the line from Indiana Jones--"choose wisely"? We have several interesting tricks to prevent vote stuffing, so I would choose not to try abusing it. Looks like this is also going to be a fun psychological experiment."
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If it is so easy to abuse, why hasn't anyone been able to abuse it yet? It's been three weeks and no one has succeeded yet. (theres more to that of course)
/. in to supporting them (just a major corporation). So what - they use Linux.
Google is the only entity on the net not to have their encoded/encrypted urls cracked open. AOL, Goto, and Altavista's various encoding schemes have all been laid wide open.
Only Googles encoding scheme in the ie toolbar has not been hacked. If you'll look at the voting system, you'll find a similar system.
>but I think you under-rate the devious
>abilities of bored corporate minions
I think you underate the devious abilities of the corporate monster that Google has become. The vulture crowd did not bestow $20mil (that we know of) on Google for being nice guys.
Take a long look at this scheme of Googles. Many don't think it has anything to do with rating websites Upware, it's about weeding out the small ones that they can't profit from.
>I tend to trust Google too
Why?
- They use 1.6 billion pages of other people content from their site to do a branding job on themselves without prior consent.
- They use everyones graphics with out prior consent.
- They run carefuly crafted "grass roots" marketing campaigns that has even sucked in the likes of even
- The effect of their algo is to promote corporate sites that will have money for advertising.
- They've never once acknowledged, justified, or admitted that the "cache" is may be legally dubious.
So what's to trust? As far as I can see, they are just another corporation out to make a buck on the internet at the small guys expense.
Where are you people getting this 'spam the system' bs from?
Don't you relize that Google is the ONLY search engine to put out a encryption system in their urls (ie toolbar) that has NEVER been cracked? Even Goto's expensive session tracker encrypted urls has has been hammered out.
Don'tcha think that if Goggle can do that with their own toolbar, they can do that with something as simple as a generated on the fly form submission. Of course they can.
Those that try to spam google will fastly find their sites and urls banned - for life.
Because descriptions rarely reflect the actual content on the page. No SERP is more useless than Googles "ransom note" results pages. Because the words I am searching for are located at paragraph 3 sentence 2 position 5, is no indication the page has whatever I am looking for at all.
If click traffic statistics were worth anything at all, DirectHit, Hotbot, and AOL from their own proxy cache data would rule the search engine world. Obviously, those three engines suck.
In the original message two weeks ago when Google announced the new beta reporting system over at Webmasterworld the Google tech in charge of the system said:
"Let me repeat that this is a test. I would not recommend trying to write a votebot. Remember the line from Indiana Jones--"choose wisely"? We have several interesting tricks to prevent vote stuffing, so I would choose not to try abusing it. Looks like this is also going to be a fun psychological experiment."