You need to weigh more than just telecom immunity when considering this vote..
Quote:reducing the bill solely to telecom immunity is to greatly misunderstand things.ENDQUOTE
Either we are a country under the rule of law, or not. This FISA law suspends fundamental principles of law. It places a whole branch of government beyond the law. It immunizes criminals from the consequences of breaking the law, including not only the law breaking corporations but the traitors who have chosen to dismantle law as a principle of government. We no longer have a basic reference in law by which to govern, and by which the goverened can redress their grievences. We are now no longer citizens in a government by the people but subjects of the government we no longer have a say in. Government in the USA has become government by those with the power. Law as a foundation of government is dismantled altogether by this law. Not understanding that is not understanding the basic legal foundation of the government as it was created by the constitutional system. Immunity for the rich and powerful in the abetting and accessory to treason now immunizes the traitors from law but offers no recourse to the governed in law. We are now subject to the whims of an unrestrained, unchecked, secret power elite. We don't even have the right any more to know who is making the law.
"What COULD he do?" place conscience above expediency, place law above expediency, keep his promise to be the change we heard him promise to be: the law is illegal, immoral, unforgivable and by voting for it, he may become president, but president of what? He lied. He is a liar. When push came to shove, he chose to be Bush light. Better than Bush heavy? not by much. Either humans have rights as humans and governments honor those rights or as the Declaration of Independence puts forth so eloquently, that government's right to govern is moot.
So we have a government, but law no longer exists. It is now pure power, unrestrained, ungoverned, unchecked by law. Tyranny. No different from Cuba, North Korea, China or Russia. Big guys bust the little guys nuts. Time to take Chinese lessons.
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Why not vote against it?
You need to weigh more than just telecom immunity when considering this vote. .
Quote:reducing the bill solely to telecom immunity is to greatly misunderstand things.ENDQUOTE Either we are a country under the rule of law, or not. This FISA law suspends fundamental principles of law. It places a whole branch of government beyond the law. It immunizes criminals from the consequences of breaking the law, including not only the law breaking corporations but the traitors who have chosen to dismantle law as a principle of government. We no longer have a basic reference in law by which to govern, and by which the goverened can redress their grievences. We are now no longer citizens in a government by the people but subjects of the government we no longer have a say in. Government in the USA has become government by those with the power. Law as a foundation of government is dismantled altogether by this law. Not understanding that is not understanding the basic legal foundation of the government as it was created by the constitutional system. Immunity for the rich and powerful in the abetting and accessory to treason now immunizes the traitors from law but offers no recourse to the governed in law. We are now subject to the whims of an unrestrained, unchecked, secret power elite. We don't even have the right any more to know who is making the law.
"What COULD he do?" place conscience above expediency, place law above expediency, keep his promise to be the change we heard him promise to be: the law is illegal, immoral, unforgivable and by voting for it, he may become president, but president of what? He lied. He is a liar. When push came to shove, he chose to be Bush light. Better than Bush heavy? not by much. Either humans have rights as humans and governments honor those rights or as the Declaration of Independence puts forth so eloquently, that government's right to govern is moot. So we have a government, but law no longer exists. It is now pure power, unrestrained, ungoverned, unchecked by law. Tyranny. No different from Cuba, North Korea, China or Russia. Big guys bust the little guys nuts. Time to take Chinese lessons.