I doubt very much they will be using anything similar to X - too much overheard. Easy enough to write their own frame buffer based window/windget toolkit.
Good lord, It's not like YOU have to pay for the SQL server license. SQL server is worlds better than MySQL in terms of maturity of the product and the availability of third party toolsets and software. It's like you have a choice between using a handsaw and an electric circular saw (both of which are available free of cost) and for some reason you want to use the handsaw.
Not that I don't like MySQL, it is a nice, simple and fast little database that has it's uses, but for any real world applications where cost is not an issue SQL server will be the simpler solution, especially when trying to integrate with an Access front end. Not to mention the fact that there are a hell of a lot more Access developers out there that know SQL server than there are that know MySQL.
How about using NT style security...
Create an acount, assign required capabilities ( on sys admin level - not code) to that acount and have new app run under it.
Every tried this with an NT service? They all run under this weird pseudo user called 'System'. Sure, you can change the user they run under, but good luck getting them to work with a user other than 'System'. Microsoft documents that some services will work ONLY as system. I spent about 5 hours once trying to create an 'ftp' user and run the ftp service under it. No dice.
This web page is also accessable from school, and during school hours also. So are dozens of porn sites. So are sites that host the anarchist's cookbook and the communist manifesto.
We are talking about content created by a student, specifically targetting the school population as an audience. The principle might attempt to 'punish' the publishers of the content you mention, but he is not going to have much luck:)
The difference between this and a pamphlet, is that the pamphlet is physically at school, and distracts for the learning environment.
There is NO difference. If someone can pull up a copy on a computer lab monitor, it is physically at school. Just because it is bits on a screen and not bits on paper doesn't somehow make it magically different.
Is this your "genuinely held opinion" - that the student should be punished for off-campus behavior, rather than the school buying a clue and segregating its virtual space the same way it segregates its physical space?
Yes, this is my opinion, and I have explained it thoroughly in other posts. He published disruptive material that was accessible to students during school hours and using school equipment. School administrators have every right to punish dispruptive behavior that spills over on to their campus.
The fact that this kid's web server was not located at school has nothing to do with it. A student could (rightfully) be punished for distributing a pamphlet he photocopied at kinkos. Does the fact that he did not use school equipment or resource to create and distribute the pamphlet somehow absolve him?
For some reason, because the kid used the internet as a publishing mechanism the slashdot community seems to think his speech should be protected to some degree more than other disruptive speech that might take place on a school campus.
I know you're probably a troll, but the point's worth making anyway...
Wow, I guess proferring a geniunely held opinion that is far enough outside accepted slashdot dogma consitutes trolling. Apparently some of the moderators agree with you.
The point you seem to be missing (twice already) is that the speech was ouside of school.
I am not missing a point, we merely disagree, a point which you seem to be missing. This material was accessible on school property, during school hours. It was published to students in school just as effectively as if the student had handed out a pamphlet.
You appear to disagree with me on this point. But ask yourself this: would it be ok to suspend a student who stands just off of school grounds and shouts obscenities about the principle? If not, why not?
This is NOT the same. If it had been posted on a school web site, yes. This was a personal web site not in any way associated with the school. It is more like he was distributing pamphlets somewhere other than school grounds. The school can't punish someone for something they did off school grounds.
He published it in a format that was available to students on school property. I see no functional difference between this and a paper pamphlet. Please enlightment me.
Would you support a student who, during school hours stood just off school property and shouted obscenities about the principle?
The fact that it was accessible from the school PC's doesn't matter. He should have had the sys-admin block the site then.
I am sure he did have it blocked. But I am sure this was after many kids had already read it the computer lab
His freedom was violated because he was blocked from continuing his education due to something he said.
Then by that logic the kid should be able to say anything to anyone in school and receive no punishment. Heck, swear at the teachers, it's protected speech. As I remember my speech was a bit more limited than that.
Sure, if the assistant principle had somehow shutdown the web site this might be justified, but he did not. He merely punished the student for violating the rules of the school, which to my mind is within his rights.
Was the web site downloadable on school PCs? If so, this is no different than a student being suspended for distributing an obscene parody pamphlet, or running down the halls yelling obscene things about the assistant principle.
Freedom of speech is certainly sacrosanct, but this boy's freedom of speech was not violated - he did not have to take down his web site (though he may have of his own accord).
In the same way, you have every right to put up an independent parody web site criticizing your employer, but don't expect to keep your job when they find out.
The researches have started out naming objects. Think about a dolphin's natural habit. There just aren't that many objects they care about - other fish, and themselves. IF there is a dolphin natural language, it is not going to be chuck full of nouns. They might have names for themselves, other fish, the water, the sky, and the ocean flow.
Relating to them on the level of simple human objects is certainly the simplest for humans, and is the way historically we have learned each other's languages, but I doubt it is going to work with a species whose natural environment is so alien to our own.
And besides, why is it so hard to tell if dolphins are actually speaking intelligently with one another with their clicks and whistles. What they do seems complex, yes, so we seem to stop there and say 'they are talking'. Why don't we subject their 'talk' to rigorous analysis and decode it. If there is not enough structure to it that we can't decode it, we are either too dumb to understand, or it is little more than bird song (that would be my guess).
Now I will not have to find light on my own. The advancements of modern science truly amaze me.
But seriously folks, it always struck me that roboticists have made phototropic robots because it was easy to do, and it made the robots seem as if they were intelligent - not because because there was any sort of practicality in the end result.
And remember, Battle Star Galatica had the distant descendants of the Aibo, the 'Dagit' (or daget, or dagat, whatever) a little robotic dog which performed on cue and made the appropriate whirring robotic noises.
why this things needs a microprocessor? All it seems to do is move forward, not much bit munching needed for that. It did not even appear to do anything even as simple as tracking a light source.
Maybe they are running some sophisticated AI code like the following:
Yes, but until you get cable companies providing guaranteed service and allowing for servers in their usage policies, DSL is the only game in town for businesses that want reasonably priced internet.
It seems like this is always the result when some idealistic hacker sells out to the corporate hordes. Sure, for awhile they might placate the techie genius, but eventually the lawyers and the shareholders hijack the corporate 'vision' and the hacker is left to wonder what became of his utopian dreams for his software.
At least PRZ has the fact that it is an open standard to fall back on. He can go back and dupilcate the work he has already done - but still, it's seems an unneccessary waste of resources.
When using real software like Oracle under linux, you find out what the requirements are for the application you're going to run, and install a compatible setup. <p>
Yes, but I think what the questionner was getting at is that this is NOT the way it should be.
<p>
-josh
Man, I am so glad that I read slashdot. Without slashdot I would have to sift through tons and tons of bullshit every day just to find the new and amazing technological advances of the age. But no, I read slashdot, so I can come here and find the best of the best, such as this dandy invention.
Wow 10.8 TB on a credit card, wahooo! What will they think of next? How do I send them guys my money? I couldn't find any address or nothing, but those english 'blokes' sure look like they is gunna go far with this invention - specially that text compression thingy - pretty damned original if I do say so myself. And then that storage mechanism 'no conventional moving parts' - I can't imagine how they got those conventional parts to stop movin, sound like quite a trick.
Anyway, don't you slashdot guys let the criticism get you down. I am with you. Don't listen to them naddering nabobs of negativism. They always persecute the dreamers!
I am looking forward to your next 'Light speed limit possibily violated' post with anticipation.
What I am against is compelling someone to take a genetic test, essentially adding information to their medical history, and then charging them a higher premium or denying them coverage if the test shows a predisposition to get a disease
I agree, no one should be compelled to take such a test. But if you do take a genetic screening test, the insurance companies should have access to the results.
You actually believe that the insurance companies would voluntarily lower your premiums? Screening for illnesses has been improving for decades and medical insurance costs have just gone up while the coverage has gone down.
Yes I do - it is a competive market. But it also is essentially a zero sum game, overall average premiums are set by overall health care costs and the profit margins the insurance companies are willing to make. So all things being the same, if my premiums go down, someone else's have to go up.
Finally, you equate smoking with genetic predispositions to illnesses. In the former case, it's a choice. In the latter, it's just bad luck. And the purpose of insurance is to financially protect people who are unlucky.
Fine, don't like that example? Should a person with Down's Syndrome who is the age of 29 be able to take out a million dollar life insurance policy and pay the same premiums I do? (I am also 29) Or a person with Cystic Fibrosis? Or a personal with Multiple Sclerosis? Certainly not, these people have drastically curtailed lifespans and to allow them the same insurance benefit for the same price amounts to giving them money. These genetic diseases just happen to have symptoms that manifest themselves without the need of a genetic test - but we have no problem treating these people differently with respect to insurance premiums. Why should we have a problem with any other genetic disease, once a test has revealed it's presence?
Slashdot Mirror
uh... yes.
repeat after me.
"Oracle is to RDBM's as IBM was to mainframes."
Now do you understand the point? Thank you.
-josh
I doubt very much they will be using anything similar to X - too much overheard. Easy enough to write their own frame buffer based window/windget toolkit.
-josh
Good lord, It's not like YOU have to pay for the SQL server license. SQL server is worlds better than MySQL in terms of maturity of the product and the availability of third party toolsets and software. It's like you have a choice between using a handsaw and an electric circular saw (both of which are available free of cost) and for some reason you want to use the handsaw.
Not that I don't like MySQL, it is a nice, simple and fast little database that has it's uses, but for any real world applications where cost is not an issue SQL server will be the simpler solution, especially when trying to integrate with an Access front end. Not to mention the fact that there are a hell of a lot more Access developers out there that know SQL server than there are that know MySQL.
Get over it, use SQL server, or find another job.
-josh
Every tried this with an NT service? They all run under this weird pseudo user called 'System'. Sure, you can change the user they run under, but good luck getting them to work with a user other than 'System'. Microsoft documents that some services will work ONLY as system. I spent about 5 hours once trying to create an 'ftp' user and run the ftp service under it. No dice.
-josh
> enter /etc
/etc
>look
[listing deleted for brevity]
>look at smb.conf
smb.conf looks interesting. You might be able to write to it. You definitely cannot execute it.
> wield SwordOfDeletion
> attack smb.conf
You hit smb.conf hard.
smb.conf savages you with a death spell.
You feel weak. You are near death.
You run away to /
> say "shit!"
You say "shit".
/boot looks are you strangely.
> cast SuperUser
> password: *******
> drink healing potion
> enter
> attack smb.conf
You kill smb.conf with a single blow.
> Say "Thats more like it"
You say "Thats more like it"
/init.d applauds loudly.
> enter /etc
>look
[listing deleted for brevity]
>look at smb.conf
smb.conf looks interesting. You might be able to write to it and delete it. You definitely cannot execute it
> wield SwordOfDeletion
> attack smb.conf
You hit smb.conf hard.
smb.conf savages you with a death spell.
You feel weak.
You run away to /
> say "shit, forgot to su"
We are talking about content created by a student, specifically targetting the school population as an audience. The principle might attempt to 'punish' the publishers of the content you mention, but he is not going to have much luck :)
The difference between this and a pamphlet, is that the pamphlet is physically at school, and distracts for the learning environment.
There is NO difference. If someone can pull up a copy on a computer lab monitor, it is physically at school. Just because it is bits on a screen and not bits on paper doesn't somehow make it magically different.
Yes, this is my opinion, and I have explained it thoroughly in other posts. He published disruptive material that was accessible to students during school hours and using school equipment. School administrators have every right to punish dispruptive behavior that spills over on to their campus.
The fact that this kid's web server was not located at school has nothing to do with it. A student could (rightfully) be punished for distributing a pamphlet he photocopied at kinkos. Does the fact that he did not use school equipment or resource to create and distribute the pamphlet somehow absolve him?
For some reason, because the kid used the internet as a publishing mechanism the slashdot community seems to think his speech should be protected to some degree more than other disruptive speech that might take place on a school campus.
-josh
Wow, I guess proferring a geniunely held opinion that is far enough outside accepted slashdot dogma consitutes trolling. Apparently some of the moderators agree with you.
Free speech in action folks.
-josh
I am not missing a point, we merely disagree, a point which you seem to be missing. This material was accessible on school property, during school hours. It was published to students in school just as effectively as if the student had handed out a pamphlet.
You appear to disagree with me on this point. But ask yourself this: would it be ok to suspend a student who stands just off of school grounds and shouts obscenities about the principle? If not, why not?
-josh
He published it in a format that was available to students on school property. I see no functional difference between this and a paper pamphlet. Please enlightment me.
Would you support a student who, during school hours stood just off school property and shouted obscenities about the principle?
You are splitting hairs
-josh
I am sure he did have it blocked. But I am sure this was after many kids had already read it the computer lab
His freedom was violated because he was blocked from continuing his education due to something he said.
Then by that logic the kid should be able to say anything to anyone in school and receive no punishment. Heck, swear at the teachers, it's protected speech. As I remember my speech was a bit more limited than that.
-josh
Sure, if the assistant principle had somehow shutdown the web site this might be justified, but he did not. He merely punished the student for violating the rules of the school, which to my mind is within his rights.
Was the web site downloadable on school PCs? If so, this is no different than a student being suspended for distributing an obscene parody pamphlet, or running down the halls yelling obscene things about the assistant principle.
Freedom of speech is certainly sacrosanct, but this boy's freedom of speech was not violated - he did not have to take down his web site (though he may have of his own accord).
In the same way, you have every right to put up an independent parody web site criticizing your employer, but don't expect to keep your job when they find out.
-josh
The researches have started out naming objects. Think about a dolphin's natural habit. There just aren't that many objects they care about - other fish, and themselves. IF there is a dolphin natural language, it is not going to be chuck full of nouns. They might have names for themselves, other fish, the water, the sky, and the ocean flow.
Relating to them on the level of simple human objects is certainly the simplest for humans, and is the way historically we have learned each other's languages, but I doubt it is going to work with a species whose natural environment is so alien to our own.
And besides, why is it so hard to tell if dolphins are actually speaking intelligently with one another with their clicks and whistles. What they do seems complex, yes, so we seem to stop there and say 'they are talking'. Why don't we subject their 'talk' to rigorous analysis and decode it. If there is not enough structure to it that we can't decode it, we are either too dumb to understand, or it is little more than bird song (that would be my guess).
-josh
Now I will not have to find light on my own. The advancements of modern science truly amaze me.
But seriously folks, it always struck me that roboticists have made phototropic robots because it was easy to do, and it made the robots seem as if they were intelligent - not because because there was any sort of practicality in the end result.
-josh
And remember, Battle Star Galatica had the distant descendants of the Aibo, the 'Dagit' (or daget, or dagat, whatever) a little robotic dog which performed on cue and made the appropriate whirring robotic noises.
*Almost* as annoying as the Aibo
-josh
why this things needs a microprocessor? All it seems to do is move forward, not much bit munching needed for that. It did not even appear to do anything even as simple as tracking a light source.
Maybe they are running some sophisticated AI code like the following:
while (battery_PCT()>10) {
move_forward();
}
-josh
Yes, but until you get cable companies providing guaranteed service and allowing for servers in their usage policies, DSL is the only game in town for businesses that want reasonably priced internet.
-josh
It seems like this is always the result when some idealistic hacker sells out to the corporate hordes. Sure, for awhile they might placate the techie genius, but eventually the lawyers and the shareholders hijack the corporate 'vision' and the hacker is left to wonder what became of his utopian dreams for his software.
At least PRZ has the fact that it is an open standard to fall back on. He can go back and dupilcate the work he has already done - but still, it's seems an unneccessary waste of resources.
-josh
Open PGP is an open standard, and the patents for the public key technology it is based on I believe have all expired.
So NA wouldn't have much of a legal leg to stand on with regards to enforcing any sort of IP agreement with PRZ, neither he nor NA owns the IP.
-josh
Sorry I don't have any mod points. Very funny
When using real software like Oracle under linux, you find out what the requirements are for the application you're going to run, and install a compatible setup.
<p>
Yes, but I think what the questionner was getting at is that this is NOT the way it should be.
<p>
-josh
Man, I am so glad that I read slashdot. Without slashdot I would have to sift through tons and tons of bullshit every day just to find the new and amazing technological advances of the age. But no, I read slashdot, so I can come here and find the best of the best, such as this dandy invention.
Wow 10.8 TB on a credit card, wahooo! What will they think of next? How do I send them guys my money? I couldn't find any address or nothing, but those english 'blokes' sure look like they is gunna go far with this invention - specially that text compression thingy - pretty damned original if I do say so myself. And then that storage mechanism 'no conventional moving parts' - I can't imagine how they got those conventional parts to stop movin, sound like quite a trick.
Anyway, don't you slashdot guys let the criticism get you down. I am with you. Don't listen to them naddering nabobs of negativism. They always persecute the dreamers!
I am looking forward to your next 'Light speed limit possibily violated' post with anticipation.
-josh
I agree, no one should be compelled to take such a test. But if you do take a genetic screening test, the insurance companies should have access to the results.
-josh
Yes I do - it is a competive market. But it also is essentially a zero sum game, overall average premiums are set by overall health care costs and the profit margins the insurance companies are willing to make. So all things being the same, if my premiums go down, someone else's have to go up.
Finally, you equate smoking with genetic predispositions to illnesses. In the former case, it's a choice. In the latter, it's just bad luck. And the purpose of insurance is to financially protect people who are unlucky.
Fine, don't like that example? Should a person with Down's Syndrome who is the age of 29 be able to take out a million dollar life insurance policy and pay the same premiums I do? (I am also 29) Or a person with Cystic Fibrosis? Or a personal with Multiple Sclerosis? Certainly not, these people have drastically curtailed lifespans and to allow them the same insurance benefit for the same price amounts to giving them money. These genetic diseases just happen to have symptoms that manifest themselves without the need of a genetic test - but we have no problem treating these people differently with respect to insurance premiums. Why should we have a problem with any other genetic disease, once a test has revealed it's presence?
-josh