A quote taken from the Seti@home page; http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/faq.html#q1.9
"We decided not to make source code available for security reasons and for science reasons as well. We have to have everyone do the exact same analysis, or we can't have any control over our research and be confident in our results.We were also worried that there may be a few people that want to deliberately try to screw up our database and server."
As I read this above, the reason they are not distributing source, is to keep the data taint to the minimum. For a scientific analasys you would want as few unknown variables as possible. Keeping a contiguous software base from start to end on the project, ( at least the core computation part ) assures that the data is processed via the exact same instructions. By allowing anyone to construct a more efficient client, you're adding(potentially) small changes into the math. The amount of calculations over that minor 320~k block of data is staggering. Similar to the "Butterfly" example in chaos theory, a minor warble in a single math calculation may have no noticeable effect a dozen times.. but a million?
Yes, I may be blowing this out of proportion. Yes, I know that there does not need to be a contiguous analasys scheme from start to end in the case of seti@home, Yes, I feel that they should consider (as in the 3dnow article) NDA's for faster clients. But I feel that the above quoted statement says things clear enough to me.
Yes. They should not trust a valuable data block to a single computer. I'm assuming that there is a very robust system of checks and balances installed to check and re-check, and re-check every number crunched by passing the same block to multiple machines.
As for the second half of that statement, it's to prevent people who -don't- care about the project to get their jollies in raising their stats. Look at all the todger waving that goes along with the rankings... "_MY_ team is #1..." Yes it is still possible to fake packets, as has been evidinced, but with open source clients, it's trivial.
Yes. I believe in Open Source. However I know there is a time and place for it, scientific analasys, to me, is not one of them. RC5? Sure.. crack keys by brute force.. no analasys needed there. But SETI@home? This is science... This is for a more worthy cause than bragging to your mates about how your machine crunched more than theirs and you're cooler than them...
Seti@home definitely needs to ramp up their block construction process if what is in the 3dnow article is true. File "Running out of blocks to process" under 'Problems we -want- to have' How many scientists would -kill- to have too much processing power available?
Hell.. make a "variable" scientific analysis engine for distributed computing, give the science labs of the planet access to all the crunching they could ever dream of..
>I still run an old P100 Mhz (non MMX),a 6 gig >hard drive with 48 megs of RAM. MAN does linux >fly on this baby! It does what I need and I never >have to reboot.
>I wonder if FreeBSD would perform better? >Any diehard freebsd users out there to comment?
From my experience with both, (I am running FreeBSD-Current on my systems, I haven't run Linux since the release of RedHat 5.1) There really won't be a hugely noticeable difference. Yes, some things will run differently, but that's true for any OS. Once you "tune" your system up under either one, there really shouldn't be too big a difference.
I personally use FreeBSD over Linux, because A: I'm used to it. Less learning curve inertia to stay with FreeBSD. B: It runs every Linux app I need, C: I like the "One Software Repository" (aka ftp.freebsd.org ) instead of having to track down patches. D: I find it easier to install/configure a base level system. E: Less of a "We're using it because it's COOL! to use it instead of MS" mentality in many of the user circles I have participated in.
However, unless you're running a server, you shouldn't see much of a big difference between FreeBSD and Linux. You will probably see many, many more drivers for Linux than FreeBSD (or at least more drivers sooner)
However, for a rock-solid server OS, I'd have to say FreeBSD.. ftp.cdrom.com is a -single- P-200 running FreeBSD. When's the last time you've heard it being down? Yahoo? Hotmail? It's not a "turn key" server OS, and like any OS, it -does- need configuring and maintenance to achieve and maintain that stability. But year+ uptimes aren't uncommon.
Personally.. Use what suits you best. Isn't that what "Free" OS'es are about in a way? doing something for -you- ? *smile*
I'm getting tired of the mind numbingly pro-linux/anti-microsoft biased slant on slashdot.org. (thanks to the filter system, however, I will be changing my view soon) I remember when I could pop on, and see "News for Nerds. Stuff that matters." Now, the majority of the articles I see, are so heavily biased, that you might as well scream "if you don't Xclusively use Linux, you sux bilz azz!!" I hope to high heaven Star Wars Episode I -BOMBS!- Yes! I so much want to see that movie, but I'm sick and fsck'ing tired of all the hype. I hope that the trailer is the best bits! Wouldn't that really make all the hype look a bit silly? "yodaboyz@starwarzfanz.org announced today 'yeah, that stunk, we apologize for getting you all worked up on that celluloid disaster."
Know how to get 200+ comments on a slashdot article? Post about Microsoft looking at Linux. "Microsoft can't rule the world. WEEEEE want too!!!" seems to be the general attitude of the "Borg Bill" comments these days. "Oh look, Linus was mentioned in the paper again today! Oh sorry, that's Linus from "Peanuts" Yes, he is a very respectable person, but geez, how many people know who's "heading" FreeBSD, or NetBSD, or any other Free OS effort? don't hear about them, do you?
Yes, I -despise- Windows. I have to use it for work every day. It's frustrating as hell, watching Netscape, or Powerpoint crash while being productive. It's -sickening- that -ANY- program seems to be capable of taking out the kernel on a whim. Unacceptable that I should need to reboot because Word didn't like alt-tabbing to Excel so it crashed and killed the kernel. But how many people here have never touched a Microsoft product? Or been required to use it for work? What percentage of people here cut their teeth on Windows, or DOS. Yes, their business practices are Wrong. Yes I feel that their marketing department needs to be beaten senseless. I feel that they should not bother with deadlines, and forget about releasing a product until it's bug free. They want to make a deadline? then stop adding bloated features one user in a thousand will use. STOP taking a known standard, altering it, and try to pass it off as the same standard. Yes, it's easy to hate MSFT. even easier when "Borg Bill" can't respond. the internet.. great equalizer, everyone can bitch equally loud. No fear of retribution or accountability.
Sure, MS Office on Linux would be nice. Good publicity for the OS, and validation from MSFT that linux is a valid market, and support from a big software name. Sure, it most likely won't be open source, sure it'll be bloated... So don't run it. nobody is holding your hand and forcing you to install it. Just like nobody forced you to install linux..
I am -glad- Microsoft puts out horridly bloated software. I hope the trend in bad software continues. I hope Windows 2000 takes a full DVD to install and needs ten gig of HD space and a gig of ram. Because I -still- won't be using it. I could care less about what Msft puts out next, I'll still be running my free unix variants, free software, and getting my job done without uberfrequent crashes. Every line of bloat Msft puts out, pushes the hardware envelope cheaper and faster. Because thanks to Microsoft, (as a friend of mine commonly says) I can go out and buy a cheap-ass 486-120, install FreeBSD on it, and smoke the hell off people running P-200's.
Next time you brag about your P-II 450, or your Celeron, or your SuperHighEndTodgerWaving system, just take a moment to ponder how fast your "high end" system would be, right now, if Windows -didn't- need all that horsepower to run with a semblance of useability. You think that there'd be 450mhz chips this soon, if there wasn't a big need for more power to overcome OS bloat?
Thank you Rob for the filter system.. After today, at least in my eyes, slashdot will be less biased again. Maybe one day I'll see an OS article on something other than Windows or Linux.. heaven forbid there's more than -two- OS'es in the world. Some days, slashdot comments give militant OS advocates a bad name... I have an urge to scream "It's an operating system, a tool, not a religion." It's like "Keyboard" advocacy, "My keyboard allows me to flame at people faster than yours does!"
Am I a troll? I don't wholly agree with your opinions, isn't it standard posting procedure on the internet to label me a troll? I've got an opinion on these things.. That what forums are for. At least I'm using my login to post my opinion, instead of hiding behind the anons, letting a faceless visage strengthen my resolve and backbone.. I believe in what I say. I have a pet peeve of people who expect me to believe their words, if they lack the conviction to stand behind them.. Yes. There are reasons for anonymity. I have nothing to hide here. I feel that it will always put more weight, seriousness, behind words that have a name behind them. How often does a "posted by anon" mean "Flamed without merit or justification"
Yes... my spelling is not the best. My grammar sucks. I've survived the american public school system. I've got better things to do than go back over my post with a spelling checker, grammar checker, and six billion other proofreading tools. This is a rant, an opinion, not an English term paper.
Shit... and here I told myself I'd stop long winded posting... Flame on.
Thank you sir, for your well thought out, poignant, and wistfully worded diatribe on my posted comment. Your elegance and skill with words has persuaded me to change my ways, and never post again! Amazing that you did it using only 4 letters and a punctuation! Such oratorial skill! I bow before your intellect kind sir, I shal run off and ask that my original comment be stricken from the record, and my posting priveledges perpetually revoked! A pox on me!
*plonk*
It is replies like these, that make me wonder why I don't have my threshold permanently set >0.
Good to see the marketing hype of the game industry is still going strong. One page touts "Exclusive Screenshots" Another spouts "We're the first with this information!!" meanwhile all they say in hindsight is "Well, it was a rumor, and we wanted to jack up our page hits" I disbelieve the screen shots, as much as I would -love- to believe them. Those are very nice images, however at NTSC resolutions, that's not as impressive.. Information from source x, states that Sony is still deciding chip designs, another states differing and conflicting hardware specifications from all the rest, yet a third has what appears to be screen shots of "final beta" stage games... Who to believe?
I don't care. I'm not going to change my life for a -GAME- system.
I've seen the Dreamcast. I've played on one extensively, and I have my own on order. Yes, it's a nice system, but the world didn't change when it was released.
How many of you are more "into" these 32bit games now, than say, when you bought your first 2600? I don't mean "more of a game fan" I mean "how much more absorbed are you into the game?" not a whole lot, when you think about it right?
I remember many a night huddled over my 2600, playing "battlezone" or "asteroids", seen the wrong side of dawn once too many from "Mario Brothers" or "excitebike" I didn't care that mario was a chincy little sprite, or that excitebike didn't have "real" motorcycle sounds, or a custom motorcycle handlebar controller with force feeback and vibrations.
I remember when games were played for the sake of enjoying the game, not how many polygons per second you could shove into your eyes...
I could care less if Linux is used for the development OS. That's called "Baiting a targeted audience" I dont' care if it could play games from the "old" playstation, sega cd, saturn, and dreamcast COMBINED. That's why I still have those systems. I'm not going to toss them out because I bought a new toy. I don't give a flying fig how many polygons per second you can display... Takes more than that to impress me.
You want to know what will get my interest? Original Ideas. I'll take 4 bit graphics and beep sound effects, if you give me a game that is original. I'm SICK AND TIRED of all these "street fighter" clones, racing clones, "final fantasy" rpg's, platform jumping clones and doom clones.. how many times can you "run down a corridor, if it moves, shoot it" before you get tired of it? How long until a "Game Shark" is created for it because 'Joe Gamer' wants the easy way out? (but -of course- nobody who reads/. uses a gameshark. of course not.. especially me.. yeah, that's it *hidehidehide*)
You want to know what I want Sony? How about a new idea.. instead of this "Let's stick with a known genre, it's safer than trying something original, the gamers will buy everything" decision paradigm that is stagnating the game industry.
Will I get a PSX2? maybe.. maybe not. I'm waiting until I see what's released before I decide. See what the console -really- is before I plonk my money down on it.
save this one under "probable vapourware" and let's see what turns up.
As always, this opinion is mine. Your opinion will vary, after all, you are not me. If you were me, you would be wondering where you put your coffee right now.
I'm unsure as to where Trace is at, but I know TV's Frank is (was, last I checked) a writer for "Sabrina the Teenage Witch". I myself have never watched the show except for the credits to confirm it.
Now I've got the urge to put a single curl of hair draped from my forhead...
Farewell Fools in the Sky...
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I will miss the show. One of a -VERY- rare few that didn't insult your intelligence, or pander to the lowest denominator. Many of the riffs go WAY over your average watcher's head. Many go un-caught until I've seen the episode more than once. I know that seeing "John Agar" or "Joe Don Baker" means I'm due for one hell of a ride..
I'm hoping they don't attempt a "let's bring mike down and dismantle the bots" type deal that ends it wholly. Let the show end without trying to bring it to a "happy closure" no "death of the bots" or lame 'star trek' endings that they've parodied for the past decade...
I want to see the show end, with the hope that Mike/Joel/whoever and the Bots will make an appearance again.
I got into MST3k "seriously" at the start of Season 8, having seen a few rare episodes before that. (I was without cable access until Season 8) I love the concept, and have done quite a few "movie mistings" at home. (nearly got kicked out of "Titanic" for making mst3k style comments at baby-faced what's-his-name.)
I'm a big fan of Web Site Number Nine I have, somewhere in the dusty tape backups, a few of my own mistings... even one on a piece of fiction I wrote. In many ways, MST3k is more than a show.
Farewell SOL. Victim of another corporate decision.
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A quote taken from the Seti@home page;9
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/faq.html#q1.
"We decided not to make source code available for security reasons and for science reasons as well. We have to have everyone do the exact same analysis, or we can't have any control over our research and be confident in our results.We were also worried that there may be a few people that want to deliberately try to screw up our database and server."
As I read this above, the reason they are not distributing source, is to keep the data taint to the minimum. For a scientific analasys you would want as few unknown variables as possible. Keeping a contiguous software base from start to end on the project, ( at least the core computation part ) assures that the data is processed via the exact same instructions. By allowing anyone to construct a more efficient client, you're adding(potentially) small changes into the math. The amount of calculations over that minor 320~k block of data is staggering. Similar to the "Butterfly" example in chaos theory, a minor warble in a single math calculation may have no noticeable effect a dozen times.. but a million?
Yes, I may be blowing this out of proportion. Yes, I know that there does not need to be a contiguous analasys scheme from start to end in the case of seti@home, Yes, I feel that they should consider (as in the 3dnow article) NDA's for faster clients. But I feel that the above quoted statement says things clear enough to me.
Yes. They should not trust a valuable data block to a single computer. I'm assuming that there is a very robust system of checks and balances installed to check and re-check, and re-check every number crunched by passing the same block to multiple machines.
As for the second half of that statement, it's to prevent people who -don't- care about the project to get their jollies in raising their stats. Look at all the todger waving that goes along with the rankings... "_MY_ team is #1..." Yes it is still possible to fake packets, as has been evidinced, but with open source clients, it's trivial.
Yes. I believe in Open Source. However I know there is a time and place for it, scientific analasys, to me, is not one of them. RC5? Sure.. crack keys by brute force.. no analasys needed there. But SETI@home? This is science... This is for a more worthy cause than bragging to your mates about how your machine crunched more than theirs and you're cooler than them...
Seti@home definitely needs to ramp up their block construction process if what is in the 3dnow article is true. File "Running out of blocks to process" under 'Problems we -want- to have' How many scientists would -kill- to have too much processing power available?
Hell.. make a "variable" scientific analysis engine for distributed computing, give the science labs of the planet access to all the crunching they could ever dream of..
As always, my own opinion.
>I still run an old P100 Mhz (non MMX),a 6 gig
>hard drive with 48 megs of RAM. MAN does linux
>fly on this baby! It does what I need and I never
>have to reboot.
>I wonder if FreeBSD would perform better?
>Any diehard freebsd users out there to comment?
From my experience with both, (I am running FreeBSD-Current on my systems, I haven't run Linux since the release of RedHat 5.1) There really won't be a hugely noticeable difference. Yes, some things will run differently, but that's true for any OS. Once you "tune" your system up under either one, there really shouldn't be too big a difference.
I personally use FreeBSD over Linux, because A: I'm used to it. Less learning curve inertia to stay with FreeBSD. B: It runs every Linux app I need, C: I like the "One Software Repository" (aka ftp.freebsd.org ) instead of having to track down patches. D: I find it easier to install/configure a base level system. E: Less of a "We're using it because it's COOL! to use it instead of MS" mentality in many of the user circles I have participated in.
However, unless you're running a server, you shouldn't see much of a big difference between FreeBSD and Linux. You will probably see many, many more drivers for Linux than FreeBSD (or at least more drivers sooner)
However, for a rock-solid server OS, I'd have to say FreeBSD.. ftp.cdrom.com is a -single- P-200 running FreeBSD. When's the last time you've heard it being down? Yahoo? Hotmail? It's not a "turn key" server OS, and like any OS, it -does- need configuring and maintenance to achieve and maintain that stability. But year+ uptimes aren't uncommon.
Personally.. Use what suits you best. Isn't that what "Free" OS'es are about in a way? doing something for -you- ? *smile*
Hope this helps... or at least tries to..
I'm getting tired of the mind numbingly pro-linux/anti-microsoft biased slant on slashdot.org. (thanks to the filter system, however, I will be changing my view soon) I remember when I could pop on, and see "News for Nerds. Stuff that matters." Now, the majority of the articles I see, are so heavily biased, that you might as well scream "if you don't Xclusively use Linux, you sux bilz azz!!" I hope to high heaven Star Wars Episode I -BOMBS!- Yes! I so much want to see that movie, but I'm sick and fsck'ing tired of all the hype. I hope that the trailer is the best bits! Wouldn't that really make all the hype look a bit silly? "yodaboyz@starwarzfanz.org announced today 'yeah, that stunk, we apologize for getting you all worked up on that celluloid disaster."
Know how to get 200+ comments on a slashdot article? Post about Microsoft looking at Linux. "Microsoft can't rule the world. WEEEEE want too!!!" seems to be the general attitude of the "Borg Bill" comments these days. "Oh look, Linus was mentioned in the paper again today! Oh sorry, that's Linus from "Peanuts" Yes, he is a very respectable person, but geez, how many people know who's "heading" FreeBSD, or NetBSD, or any other Free OS effort? don't hear about them, do you?
Yes, I -despise- Windows. I have to use it for work every day. It's frustrating as hell, watching Netscape, or Powerpoint crash while being productive. It's -sickening- that -ANY- program seems to be capable of taking out the kernel on a whim. Unacceptable that I should need to reboot because Word didn't like alt-tabbing to Excel so it crashed and killed the kernel. But how many people here have never touched a Microsoft product? Or been required to use it for work? What percentage of people here cut their teeth on Windows, or DOS. Yes, their business practices are Wrong. Yes I feel that their marketing department needs to be beaten senseless. I feel that they should not bother with deadlines, and forget about releasing a product until it's bug free. They want to make a deadline? then stop adding bloated features one user in a thousand will use. STOP taking a known standard, altering it, and try to pass it off as the same standard. Yes, it's easy to hate MSFT. even easier when "Borg Bill" can't respond. the internet.. great equalizer, everyone can bitch equally loud. No fear of retribution or accountability.
Sure, MS Office on Linux would be nice. Good publicity for the OS, and validation from MSFT that linux is a valid market, and support from a big software name. Sure, it most likely won't be open source, sure it'll be bloated... So don't run it. nobody is holding your hand and forcing you to install it. Just like nobody forced you to install linux..
I am -glad- Microsoft puts out horridly bloated software. I hope the trend in bad software continues. I hope Windows 2000 takes a full DVD to install and needs ten gig of HD space and a gig of ram. Because I -still- won't be using it. I could care less about what Msft puts out next, I'll still be running my free unix variants, free software, and getting my job done without uberfrequent crashes. Every line of bloat Msft puts out, pushes the hardware envelope cheaper and faster. Because thanks to Microsoft, (as a friend of mine commonly says) I can go out and buy a cheap-ass 486-120, install FreeBSD on it, and smoke the hell off people running P-200's.
Next time you brag about your P-II 450, or your Celeron, or your SuperHighEndTodgerWaving system, just take a moment to ponder how fast your "high end" system would be, right now, if Windows -didn't- need all that horsepower to run with a semblance of useability. You think that there'd be 450mhz chips this soon, if there wasn't a big need for more power to overcome OS bloat?
Thank you Rob for the filter system.. After today, at least in my eyes, slashdot will be less biased again. Maybe one day I'll see an OS article on something other than Windows or Linux.. heaven forbid there's more than -two- OS'es in the world. Some days, slashdot comments give militant OS advocates a bad name... I have an urge to scream "It's an operating system, a tool, not a religion." It's like "Keyboard" advocacy, "My keyboard allows me to flame at people faster than yours does!"
Am I a troll? I don't wholly agree with your opinions, isn't it standard posting procedure on the internet to label me a troll? I've got an opinion on these things.. That what forums are for. At least I'm using my login to post my opinion, instead of hiding behind the anons, letting a faceless visage strengthen my resolve and backbone.. I believe in what I say. I have a pet peeve of people who expect me to believe their words, if they lack the conviction to stand behind them.. Yes. There are reasons for anonymity. I have nothing to hide here. I feel that it will always put more weight, seriousness, behind words that have a name behind them. How often does a "posted by anon" mean "Flamed without merit or justification"
Yes... my spelling is not the best. My grammar sucks. I've survived the american public school system. I've got better things to do than go back over my post with a spelling checker, grammar checker, and six billion other proofreading tools. This is a rant, an opinion, not an English term paper.
Shit... and here I told myself I'd stop long winded posting... Flame on.
> Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn!
Thank you sir, for your well thought out, poignant, and wistfully worded diatribe on my posted comment. Your elegance and skill with words has persuaded me to change my ways, and never post again! Amazing that you did it using only 4 letters and a punctuation! Such oratorial skill! I bow before your intellect kind sir, I shal run off and ask that my original comment be stricken from the record, and my posting priveledges perpetually revoked! A pox on me!
*plonk*
It is replies like these, that make me wonder why I don't have my threshold permanently set >0.
Good to see the marketing hype of the game industry is still going strong. One page touts "Exclusive Screenshots" Another spouts "We're the first with this information!!" meanwhile all they say in hindsight is "Well, it was a rumor, and we wanted to jack up our page hits" I disbelieve the screen shots, as much as I would -love- to believe them. Those are very nice images, however at NTSC resolutions, that's not as impressive.. Information from source x, states that Sony is still deciding chip designs, another states differing and conflicting hardware specifications from all the rest, yet a third has what appears to be screen shots of "final beta" stage games... Who to believe?
/. uses a gameshark. of course not.. especially me.. yeah, that's it *hidehidehide*)
I don't care. I'm not going to change my life for a -GAME- system.
I've seen the Dreamcast. I've played on one extensively, and I have my own on order. Yes, it's a nice system, but the world didn't change when it was released.
How many of you are more "into" these 32bit games now, than say, when you bought your first 2600? I don't mean "more of a game fan" I mean "how much more absorbed are you into the game?" not a whole lot, when you think about it right?
I remember many a night huddled over my 2600, playing "battlezone" or "asteroids", seen the wrong side of dawn once too many from "Mario Brothers" or "excitebike" I didn't care that mario was a chincy little sprite, or that excitebike didn't have "real" motorcycle sounds, or a custom motorcycle handlebar controller with force feeback and vibrations.
I remember when games were played for the sake of enjoying the game, not how many polygons per second you could shove into your eyes...
I could care less if Linux is used for the development OS. That's called "Baiting a targeted audience" I dont' care if it could play games from the "old" playstation, sega cd, saturn, and dreamcast COMBINED. That's why I still have those systems. I'm not going to toss them out because I bought a new toy. I don't give a flying fig how many polygons per second you can display... Takes more than that to impress me.
You want to know what will get my interest? Original Ideas. I'll take 4 bit graphics and beep sound effects, if you give me a game that is original. I'm SICK AND TIRED of all these "street fighter" clones, racing clones, "final fantasy" rpg's, platform jumping clones and doom clones.. how many times can you "run down a corridor, if it moves, shoot it" before you get tired of it? How long until a "Game Shark" is created for it because 'Joe Gamer' wants the easy way out? (but -of course- nobody who reads
You want to know what I want Sony? How about a new idea.. instead of this "Let's stick with a known genre, it's safer than trying something original, the gamers will buy everything" decision paradigm that is stagnating the game industry.
Will I get a PSX2? maybe.. maybe not. I'm waiting until I see what's released before I decide. See what the console -really- is before I plonk my money down on it.
save this one under "probable vapourware" and let's see what turns up.
As always, this opinion is mine. Your opinion will vary, after all, you are not me. If you were me, you would be wondering where you put your coffee right now.
I'm unsure as to where Trace is at, but I know TV's Frank is (was, last I checked) a writer for "Sabrina the Teenage Witch". I myself have never watched the show except for the credits to confirm it.
Now I've got the urge to put a single curl of hair draped from my forhead...
I'm hoping they don't attempt a "let's bring mike down and dismantle the bots" type deal that ends it wholly. Let the show end without trying to bring it to a "happy closure" no "death of the bots" or lame 'star trek' endings that they've parodied for the past decade...
I want to see the show end, with the hope that Mike/Joel/whoever and the Bots will make an appearance again.
I got into MST3k "seriously" at the start of Season 8, having seen a few rare episodes before that. (I was without cable access until Season 8) I love the concept, and have done quite a few "movie mistings" at home. (nearly got kicked out of "Titanic" for making mst3k style comments at baby-faced what's-his-name.)
I'm a big fan of Web Site Number Nine I have, somewhere in the dusty tape backups, a few of my own mistings... even one on a piece of fiction I wrote. In many ways, MST3k is more than a show.
Farewell SOL. Victim of another corporate decision.