I remember a couple of years ago trying to get some of those working in windows and it complained about glaux. There's some "glaux replacement code" but I couldn't get that working either.
So any chance the tutorials will ever be updated to work out of the box so that newbies can avoid worrying about dependencies until they have a handle on the material?
It massively detracts from the value of the tutorials to newbies when the tutorial code simply doesn't work.
" in part becase we were responsible for watching our younger siblings during that time."
So you're saying more responsibility at a young age decreased/controlled your delinquent behavior?:D
I'm of the view that people are who they have to be. If there's always someone else there to be the responsible one then they're not going to be responsible themselves.
It should be noted that solar thermal clocks in at something like 2.6% gross effeciency.(it's really abysmal)
It depends on the design but a lot of the plants also require water, lots of water. Now of course not all designs require water but the cheaper/more effecient ones do and that's something to keep in mind in desert areas.
Nuclear power by design goes in the direction of more secret governement, more corporation power, thighter police state, tighter control over citizens, and more empowering of an "elite" class who controls resources and people. Nuclear power is good for the big fat cats, the militaro-industrial complex, the weapons manufacturers, the corrupt politicians, and so on.
I've come across this attitude quite a lot. Nuclear isn't bad because of nuclear. Nuclear is bad because of the Sins of Mankind. At the same time some other little toy energy source is is redemption that will forgive our sins.
Everything is good for the big fat cats. Building a trillion or so solar pannels is fantastic for the big fat cats and the militaro-industrial complex.
This isn't about energy sources. This is disatisfaction with how the world is linked up with some kind of belief that if you wear a rainbow shawl and have a little 500 watt wind turbine on your roof then somehow all the real problems will go away.
Also my feeling, although I'd like to have it backed by detailed studies, tells me that nuclear energy is in fact unnecessary and that most if not all of the energy needs of humanity could be provided for through renewable energy, at an economical cost, and this could have been done for a long time. From this article [spiegel.de] about Thermal Solar Power:
It runs through all the options, first in a "what if we ignore the cost and how realistic it is(like lining the entire coast with tital/wave generators or drilling thousands of thermal boreholes or covering half the country in solar pannels)" and then adds them all up to show how much energy we could get. Then it runs through again with realistic estimates from research institutes etc which take into account things like price.
I've seen a lot of very very impractical shit about renewables, there's a lovely little one that does the rounds now and then where they draw a few little squares on the world map and claim that that's the area you'd need to cover.
Of course when you check the math it turns out they've made some insane assumptions like 100% effecient pannels and a superconducting world grid with no energy loss etc etc etc and they never even mention that it would cost several times the entire worlds GNP to build.
Or they talk in the first paragraph about the latest top of the line high effeciency extremely expensive pannels which gather 50% of the energy that hits them and then start talking about solar thermal without mentioning how abysmal it is. (gross conversion efficiency comes out at about 2.6% for new solar thermal plants)
Companies which run plants pay a small portion of their income over the life of the plant to the federal government to pay for the eventual decommissioning costs.
So no. They have not just walked off and left all the cost to the federal government.
Yeah, except for these quite high barriers to entry, yes everyone can go about fixing other people's code.
I can't imagine how you could set the barriers any lower.... Compared to most barriers in life they're right down there with the rats leaping over them joyfully.
Because everyone is a programmer, right?
Everyone with the desire to be a programmer, a bit of time, a bit of willpower, a working brain and a net connection. So sure. Not everyone.
And everyone is intimately familiar with everyone else's code bases and every library, UI toolkit etc that are also used, right?
You do know there are private ambulance services out there right? They just suck at doing a better job and are insanely expensive but if you're wealthy and stupid you're free to hire one.
1: You have a job with insurance, you develop a long term health problem. All fine and good, insurance covers it.
2: You lose your job, not for long, 2 months later you've found a new job with medical insurance, you may even had had a job for a few months which didn't have medical cover.
3: Uh oh.... you were uninsured for a little too long and now they're allowed to not cover your pre-existing condition.
Well I guess you better give up any hopes for living anywhere except a trailer since those medical bills are going to bankrupt you over and over if you want any kind of decent reliable care especially if you actually have a job and as such don't qualify for medicaid.
Of course you could do the capitalist thing and quit your job and go on medicaid so that perhaps just maybe you won't lose your house.
ya... all those countries with a heavily socialist system like Norway and the United Kingdom are just falling apart compared to the debt free and stable totally capitalist US.
No comment, because everyone eventually makes mistakes including myself.
It's curious how members of the medical profession close ranks when the posibility of incompetence crops up. Everyone in every field meets other members of their profession who are shit at their job yet it's only doctors and nurses who seem to do with One-For-All crap.
Programmers? They'll decide that one of their own is inept and loudly proclaim it to all around them. Physicists? They eat their own. Engineers? A whiff of fuckup and the one who screwed up will be derided by all around them.
Doctors? "we all make mistakes" What the fuck is with that? The only other example of this kind of "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" bullshit I can think of is some of the more blinkered and powerful teachers unions.
You'd think doctors would be less inclined than other professions to put up with incompetence within their own ranks but the oposite seems to be true.
If you have the money and don't like the NHS in the UK you are perfectly free to get care privatly. HMO? Fee for service? Catastrophic plan? take yer pick.
Unfortunatly it's not a "what if". Huge numbers of people hit the problem that their insurance covers everything except what happens. Or through asymetry of information the insurance company knows that on X% of high cost cases a co-pay which sounds reasonable will mount up over the dozens of hospital visits required to something stupidly high.
Pleanty more simply can't get cover because they're about to hit the age when they're no longer covered by their parents insurance but because they're already sick they can't get their own due to a "pre-existing condition".
The US has the worst of all possible health care systems. (unless you're bill gates or the owner of an insurance company in which case it rocks.)
Thing is, that's applying something personal: something an individual learns ( respect other species) to a whole species.
Groups and individuals don't act the same. Every member of riot may know that stealing is wrong yet the rioters still manage to loot the stores nearby.
And on a related note if we outlaw possession of "hacking tools" like port scanners, password crackers and packet sniffers it'll reduce the amount of computer crime since script kiddies and other small fry won't risk a possession charge because an unauthorized access carries a much lower penalty than possession of hacking tools and being the one script kiddie with a copy of nmap will make the police interested.
or perhaps that approach is idiotic and hopeless and would only lead to sys admins being unable to check their own systems without being criminals leading to an increase in computer crime.
No i mean why not just implement it in software? Given that you have to deal with dynamic IP addresses and the like you're not going to have all the benefits of an always on server anyway.
Sooner or later you approach something like freenet with a little more control over what's stored on your own node.
Ya..... I'm looking at the summary and I cannot for the world of me work out why the wall wart crap is part of the idea at all. It just adds a pointless layer of complexity to an already overly complex idea.
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I remember a couple of years ago trying to get some of those working in windows and it complained about glaux.
There's some "glaux replacement code" but I couldn't get that working either.
So any chance the tutorials will ever be updated to work out of the box so that newbies can avoid worrying about dependencies until they have a handle on the material?
It massively detracts from the value of the tutorials to newbies when the tutorial code simply doesn't work.
" in part becase we were responsible for watching our younger siblings during that time."
So you're saying more responsibility at a young age decreased/controlled your delinquent behavior? :D
I'm of the view that people are who they have to be.
If there's always someone else there to be the responsible one then they're not going to be responsible themselves.
So don't delay!
Buy your kid a world of warcraft account today!
what the christ?
If by 14 your child can't think for themselves and get themselves up then something is seriously wrong.
It should be noted that solar thermal clocks in at something like 2.6% gross effeciency.(it's really abysmal)
It depends on the design but a lot of the plants also require water, lots of water.
Now of course not all designs require water but the cheaper/more effecient ones do and that's something to keep in mind in desert areas.
Nuclear power by design goes in the direction of more secret governement, more corporation power, thighter police state, tighter control over citizens, and more empowering of an "elite" class who controls resources and people. Nuclear power is good for the big fat cats, the militaro-industrial complex, the weapons manufacturers, the corrupt politicians, and so on.
I've come across this attitude quite a lot.
Nuclear isn't bad because of nuclear.
Nuclear is bad because of the Sins of Mankind.
At the same time some other little toy energy source is is redemption that will forgive our sins.
Everything is good for the big fat cats.
Building a trillion or so solar pannels is fantastic for the big fat cats and the militaro-industrial complex.
This isn't about energy sources. This is disatisfaction with how the world is linked up with some kind of belief that if you wear a rainbow shawl and have a little 500 watt wind turbine on your roof then somehow all the real problems will go away.
Also my feeling, although I'd like to have it backed by detailed studies, tells me that nuclear energy is in fact unnecessary and that most if not all of the energy needs of humanity could be provided for through renewable energy, at an economical cost, and this could have been done for a long time. From this article [spiegel.de] about Thermal Solar Power:
Not really.
Read this:
http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/sustainable/book/tex/sewtha.pdf
It runs through all the options, first in a "what if we ignore the cost and how realistic it is(like lining the entire coast with tital/wave generators or drilling thousands of thermal boreholes or covering half the country in solar pannels)" and then adds them all up to show how much energy we could get. Then it runs through again with realistic estimates from research institutes etc which take into account things like price.
I've seen a lot of very very impractical shit about renewables, there's a lovely little one that does the rounds now and then where they draw a few little squares on the world map and claim that that's the area you'd need to cover.
Of course when you check the math it turns out they've made some insane assumptions like 100% effecient pannels and a superconducting world grid with no energy loss etc etc etc and they never even mention that it would cost several times the entire worlds GNP to build.
Or they talk in the first paragraph about the latest top of the line high effeciency extremely expensive pannels which gather 50% of the energy that hits them and then start talking about solar thermal without mentioning how abysmal it is.
(gross conversion efficiency comes out at about 2.6% for new solar thermal plants)
Companies which run plants pay a small portion of their income over the life of the plant to the federal government to pay for the eventual decommissioning costs.
So no.
They have not just walked off and left all the cost to the federal government.
I was originally refering to the GP point
"Open source is communism, not democracy. All are equal, but some are more equal than others"
That if you don't like how choices are made you can always set up your own fork where all choices are made on the basis of whatever you like.
you seem to have misinterpreted what "it" is.
The complaint I was addressing was
"Open source is communism, not democracy. All are equal, but some are more equal than others"
Also we were all once part of that 90% at some point.
The information is out there freely available.
Yeah, except for these quite high barriers to entry, yes everyone can go about fixing other people's code.
I can't imagine how you could set the barriers any lower....
Compared to most barriers in life they're right down there with the rats leaping over them joyfully.
Because everyone is a programmer, right?
Everyone with the desire to be a programmer, a bit of time, a bit of willpower, a working brain and a net connection.
So sure.
Not everyone.
And everyone is intimately familiar with everyone else's code bases and every library, UI toolkit etc that are also used, right?
yes. people are not omniscient. it's true.
You're free to fix it.
Set up a site, fork the source and run your site as a true democracy.
Every decision can be put to a vote.
When setting it up you can even make sure you're no more equal than anyone else.
You do know there are private ambulance services out there right?
They just suck at doing a better job and are insanely expensive but if you're wealthy and stupid you're free to hire one.
Wow.
You completely missed the point there.
I mean you didn't even get close.
I wasn't talking about being out of work forever.
1:
You have a job with insurance, you develop a long term health problem. All fine and good, insurance covers it.
2:
You lose your job, not for long, 2 months later you've found a new job with medical insurance, you may even had had a job for a few months which didn't have medical cover.
3:
Uh oh.... you were uninsured for a little too long and now they're allowed to not cover your pre-existing condition.
Well I guess you better give up any hopes for living anywhere except a trailer since those medical bills are going to bankrupt you over and over if you want any kind of decent reliable care especially if you actually have a job and as such don't qualify for medicaid.
Of course you could do the capitalist thing and quit your job and go on medicaid so that perhaps just maybe you won't lose your house.
Isn't capitalism great!
ya... all those countries with a heavily socialist system like Norway and the United Kingdom are just falling apart compared to the debt free and stable totally capitalist US.
And how many months do you have to be out of work or unable to afford the premiums before that protection lapses leaving you royally fucked?
No comment, because everyone eventually makes mistakes including myself.
It's curious how members of the medical profession close ranks when the posibility of incompetence crops up.
Everyone in every field meets other members of their profession who are shit at their job yet it's only doctors and nurses who seem to do with One-For-All crap.
Programmers? They'll decide that one of their own is inept and loudly proclaim it to all around them.
Physicists? They eat their own.
Engineers? A whiff of fuckup and the one who screwed up will be derided by all around them.
Doctors? "we all make mistakes"
What the fuck is with that?
The only other example of this kind of "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" bullshit I can think of is some of the more blinkered and powerful teachers unions.
You'd think doctors would be less inclined than other professions to put up with incompetence within their own ranks but the oposite seems to be true.
If you have the money and don't like the NHS in the UK you are perfectly free to get care privatly.
HMO? Fee for service? Catastrophic plan? take yer pick.
Unfortunatly it's not a "what if".
Huge numbers of people hit the problem that their insurance covers everything except what happens.
Or through asymetry of information the insurance company knows that on X% of high cost cases a co-pay which sounds reasonable will mount up over the dozens of hospital visits required to something stupidly high.
Pleanty more simply can't get cover because they're about to hit the age when they're no longer covered by their parents insurance but because they're already sick they can't get their own due to a "pre-existing condition".
The US has the worst of all possible health care systems.
(unless you're bill gates or the owner of an insurance company in which case it rocks.)
Thing is, that's applying something personal: something an individual learns ( respect other species) to a whole species.
Groups and individuals don't act the same.
Every member of riot may know that stealing is wrong yet the rioters still manage to loot the stores nearby.
we haven't stopped the ethnic cleansing in even the last few decades never mind the last 100,000 years.
And on a related note if we outlaw possession of "hacking tools" like port scanners, password crackers and packet sniffers it'll reduce the amount of computer crime since script kiddies and other small fry won't risk a possession charge because an unauthorized access carries a much lower penalty than possession of hacking tools and being the one script kiddie with a copy of nmap will make the police interested.
or perhaps that approach is idiotic and hopeless and would only lead to sys admins being unable to check their own systems without being criminals leading to an increase in computer crime.
Someone mod the parent up.
Is there any particular reason an alien species would be any nicer to other species than we are to other species?
No i mean why not just implement it in software?
Given that you have to deal with dynamic IP addresses and the like you're not going to have all the benefits of an always on server anyway.
Sooner or later you approach something like freenet with a little more control over what's stored on your own node.
Ya.....
I'm looking at the summary and I cannot for the world of me work out why the wall wart crap is part of the idea at all.
It just adds a pointless layer of complexity to an already overly complex idea.