Wow, that was amazing. All those words and not one fact. You are missing the point of this disscussion. Humans will be humans no matter what planet they are on.
Dictators become powerful over people by gathering strong arms around them and then assume power. NOT by obeying the law, but by ignoring it. Your utopia cannot exist without eliminating freewill.
What I want to know from you is, "How do you propose to alter human behaviour in such a fundemental way?"
As you can see I beleive the founding fathers of the United States of America had it right. Would you rather Hitler won WWII. His fascist/socialist plan would have fit what you describe. Other choices include Cuba, where you can have a diet of around 250 calories a day while you watch politicians ride around in Mercedes, or go back to the former (Note: Former) Soviet Union where while waiting in line for 8 hours to buy bread you watch the politicos drive by in their (Wait for it...) Mercedes.
It is not possible for socialism (even StarTrek socialism) to work. Where there are humans, there is corruption.
Now go wrap yourself in your red flag and swim to Cuba.
NONE OF THIS COMMUNICATION WOULD BE POSSIBLE IF NOT FOR CAPITALISM. I can't think of any communist/socialist/fascist/leftist states that have this kind of standard of living. Can you?
Capitalism is here to stay. When you grow up and quit smoking you will realize that I am right.
It's a matter of semantics. Rich people are rich becase poor people keep doing the things that make them poor. I am, of course, talking about people who live is free societies, not dictatorships. If you can't own anything, then the biggest guy gets to be dictator.
You want eveyone to beleive that owning land is a form of theft? We can't even get everyone to agree that throwing trash out of the car window is a bad thing.
Socialism is the best form of society, if, and it's a big IF,(the kind of BIG that dwarfs some planets, big) you can eliminate the human need to improve. As long as I want something better, like a new refrigerator or a second car, I upset the balance. You don't need to have people being greedy to make it fall apart. They just need to want to improve their situation.
Without capitalism, you need war. One or the other is needed to drive the engines of R&D that makes your pentium IV faster than your old 8088.
Frankly, I prefer capitalism.
In the United States, you are no longer considered part of the working class if you earn more than $52k a year. So, be careful, you wouldn't want to join the capitalist elite. You'd better donate every penny more than that you earn to the UN so they can continue their war against the American way of life.
Without Property Rights, which you are labeling capitalism, there can be no freedom.
If you can't own the piece of land you put your martian bubble farm up on (let alone the bubble), then anybody can take it away from you.
Human nature shows us that if the biggest, strongest critter is not held back by the laws enforcing the rights of the weaker individual, then the biggest and strongest will rule.
Remember this as well; Poor people are poor because they keep doing the things that make them poor.
Rich people are rich because they keep doing the things that make them rich.
This goes under the heading, "you get what you pay for!" I routinely pay a toll on a toll road to get to work faster every day than if I took the parallel "free" road. It saves me hours every week. I think this is a great idea. You get premium service for extra money. It's like flying first class.
Encryption is illegal over amatuer radio, period. The HF amatuer frequencies can carry around the world, so the effects are widespread. There are international treaties that cover the entire planet. I agree that it would be next to impossible to find someone transmitting encrypted data from the middle of the pacific, but the requirements of transmitting you identification (call sign) every 10 minutes in clear voice or text would make you easy to track down later. To successfully get away with sending encrypted data, you will need to break a couple of laws/rules.
Transmit encrypted data
Fail to identify yourself properly
If you are out of the way (i.e. the middle of the ocean) and keeping your transmissions short while comunicating with a gateway you have configured and run back on land you may get away with it.
But remember, hams are very resourceful and very protective of their bands. -Chuck
"Last I checked, ripping a CD (you owned) wasn't illegal"
The point of Napster is to get MP3's when you don't own the CD's. But you knew that. The use of Napster is inherently illegal. I only use it to download files I'm to lazy to rip from CD's I already own;-)
It come right down to who's paying. At a private school, aren't the students who pay their lab fees and tuition buying the bandwidth? In those cases, it's a matter of how to distribute the cost of additional bandwidth. In government schools, WE are paying for the bandwidth (at least subsidizing it.) and I can think of better things to pay for than some college kids IP Phone calls.
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Wow, that was amazing. All those words and not one fact. You are missing the point of this disscussion. Humans will be humans no matter what planet they are on.
Dictators become powerful over people by gathering strong arms around them and then assume power. NOT by obeying the law, but by ignoring it. Your utopia cannot exist without eliminating freewill.
What I want to know from you is, "How do you propose to alter human behaviour in such a fundemental way?"
As you can see I beleive the founding fathers of the United States of America had it right. Would you rather Hitler won WWII. His fascist/socialist plan would have fit what you describe. Other choices include Cuba, where you can have a diet of around 250 calories a day while you watch politicians ride around in Mercedes, or go back to the former (Note: Former) Soviet Union where while waiting in line for 8 hours to buy bread you watch the politicos drive by in their (Wait for it...) Mercedes.
It is not possible for socialism (even StarTrek socialism) to work. Where there are humans, there is corruption.
Now go wrap yourself in your red flag and swim to Cuba.
NONE OF THIS COMMUNICATION WOULD BE POSSIBLE IF NOT FOR CAPITALISM. I can't think of any communist/socialist/fascist/leftist states that have this kind of standard of living. Can you?
Capitalism is here to stay. When you grow up and quit smoking you will realize that I am right.
Well spoken.
It's a matter of semantics. Rich people are rich becase poor people keep doing the things that make them poor. I am, of course, talking about people who live is free societies, not dictatorships. If you can't own anything, then the biggest guy gets to be dictator.
You want eveyone to beleive that owning land is a form of theft? We can't even get everyone to agree that throwing trash out of the car window is a bad thing.
Socialism is the best form of society, if, and it's a big IF,(the kind of BIG that dwarfs some planets, big) you can eliminate the human need to improve.
As long as I want something better, like a new refrigerator or a second car, I upset the balance. You don't need to have people being greedy to make it fall apart. They just need to want to improve their situation.
Without capitalism, you need war. One or the other is needed to drive the engines of R&D that makes your pentium IV faster than your old 8088.
Frankly, I prefer capitalism.
In the United States, you are no longer considered part of the working class if you earn more than $52k a year. So, be careful, you wouldn't want to join the capitalist elite. You'd better donate every penny more than that you earn to the UN so they can continue their war against the American way of life.
Without Property Rights, which you are labeling capitalism, there can be no freedom.
If you can't own the piece of land you put your martian bubble farm up on (let alone the bubble), then anybody can take it away from you.
Human nature shows us that if the biggest, strongest critter is not held back by the laws enforcing the rights of the weaker individual, then the biggest and strongest will rule.
Remember this as well;
Poor people are poor because they keep doing the things that make them poor.
Rich people are rich because they keep doing the things that make them rich.
This goes under the heading, "you get what you pay for!" I routinely pay a toll on a toll road to get to work faster every day than if I took the parallel "free" road. It saves me hours every week. I think this is a great idea. You get premium service for extra money. It's like flying first class.
- Transmit encrypted data
- Fail to identify yourself properly
If you are out of the way (i.e. the middle of the ocean) and keeping your transmissions short while comunicating with a gateway you have configured and run back on land you may get away with it.But remember, hams are very resourceful and very protective of their bands.
-Chuck
"Last I checked, ripping a CD (you owned) wasn't illegal"
;-)
The point of Napster is to get MP3's when you don't own the CD's. But you knew that. The use of Napster is inherently illegal. I only use it to download files I'm to lazy to rip from CD's I already own
Psst. Wanna buy some ocean front Kansas property?
It come right down to who's paying. At a private school, aren't the students who pay their lab fees and tuition buying the bandwidth? In those cases, it's a matter of how to distribute the cost of additional bandwidth. In government schools, WE are paying for the bandwidth (at least subsidizing it.) and I can think of better things to pay for than some college kids IP Phone calls.
I don't know the exact sizes. But you can fit something like 15 CW (morse code) signals into the footprint of on FM voice signal.