My employer up until sixteen months ago did exactly that. Volume licensing would have saved them some money - not a whole lot of money, but some. But, the IT department was totally incompetent. Now that we've been bought out by a larger company, the IT department is far less incompetent, and we actually have machines that work, OS's that do what they are supposed to do, and something that passes for security. And, volume licensing.
Ditto your thoughts here. Wonder if MS even checked for such a possibility. I use a couple different VPN addresses routinely, and some others less routinely. I have no idea how many people use the same VPN's. Hundreds of thousands, maybe?
Getting OFF this rock is the most important thing. You're afraid of the weather. I'm afraid of that humonguous rock targeting earth, which will make weather irrelevant.
According to my parents? There is no doubt that my generation was far less mature than my parent's generation. I didn't find it necessary to go to the Pacific Ocean when I was fifteen years old to fight against Imperial Japan. There was no Pearl Harbor for my generation to respond to. My sister didn't find it necessary to work in a factory at age sixteen, to provide ammunition for her brothers in the Pacific. There are a lot of differences between my generation and my parent's generation.
My grandparent's generation? Huge difference again. My mother's children all survived to adulthood, except one infant. Grandma? Guess again. I'm a guy, so I don't really remember accurately - but memory indicates that the old woman birthed 18 babies - only 9 of whom lived to adulthood. The medical sciences sucked back then, and the Great Depression helped to ensure that not everyone had ready access to the best that medical science offered.
You may go on, seeking to minimalize the differences between generations, but there are real differences between us.
Trivial to get a good paying job? Really? You mean it wasn't necessary to work hard? Maybe you're confusing me and my generation with the sixties Union activists. Hell, a union member in good standing couldn't be fired for much of ANYTHING. Sorry, but I wasn't part of that socialist shindig.
Now - as for good paying jobs - have you CREATED any jobs, yourself? No? Why not? Open up a business, and put some people around you to work. Get after it, Pal. Do something useful.
Before you ask - I DID go into business. Ultimately, I failed. I employed 5 to 8 people for a few years, competing against the invading illegal aliens. I thought I was doing alright, until one of my people was injured. Ooops - no insurance. I got out from under that impending disaster, but realized it was only a matter of time before another injury would destroy me. So, I folded up, and went back to work for more established companies.
Why don't you do what I failed at, and prove yourself the better man?
Or, do you feel that government owes you a living?
Each has different missions. Maybe those missions are repetitively redundant, but at least they each have a different perspective on the same problems.
What I am saying is, NASA has a much bigger, much more important mission that studying weather and/or climate.
Ehhh. I just watched this short video again. I am mesmerized by the face of the woman in the last scene. I imagine that she's waiting for a "bus" to come along, to take her to college. Or to bring home a loved one from a years long journey. Or, maybe she's just headed to the local version of an amusement park. Or, joining classmates, then heading off to the mall.
"You've essentially said the students shouldn't question authority or express themselves when they see misogyny or injustice etc. "
It's always been my motto to question authority. Question away. But, do the course work. Pass the class. Or, don't do the work, fail the class, and live with that failing grade.
Have I somehow implied that the young woman is not entitled to her opinion? Have I somehow implied that she shouldn't voice her opinion? I certainly hope not.
What I have stated pretty clearly is, I disagree with her, and I'm not at all supportive of her position. If my vote were necessary to censure the teacher, then it wouldn't happen. If the young lady is expecting me to pat her on the back for standing up to the teacher, that won't happen either.
On the other hand - if the young woman were to be punished in any way for stating her opinion, such as getting a lower grade, then I would be up in arms. The teacher in question would certainly have acted in a mysogenistic manner, overstepped his authority, and treated a student in an unethical manner.
Sounds like a heap of excuse making to me. We were discussing growing up, were we not? And, you bring up how badly the economy sucks. How does a bad economy justify immaturity? I simply don't see any connection.
Had you attacked my generation's parenting and nurturing skills, I would be right on board with the attack. Can't spank a child, can't speak harshly to a child, can't just drop kick the smart mouth into next week. How in hell did we EXPECT the kids to grow up, if they never face harsh consequences for improper conduct?
Doing something, and studying or reading something are entirely different. I've studied how to make bombs. I've never MADE a bomb, never USED a bomb, but the knowledge is in my head.
Studying the building plans of a prison, or a bank might serve many purposes. Heading out one morning to perform a prison break, or a bank robbery would be wrong, of course, but the architecture involved shouldn't be censored.
Censorship involves suppressing knowledge, and/or governing what information a person should have access to.
You ask about good judgement? Hmmm. Certainly not the best judgement - but so what? Are we going to begin punishing people for having poor judgement?
You know, I could possibly go along with such an agenda. Except - powerful people aren't held to such a standard. Look at Clinton. That skank has such poor judgement, I wonder how she has managed to feed herself all her life, let alone raise a daughter.
Oh, forget the daughter bit. That daughter has zero understanding of money. Pampered rich bitch, doesn't have a clue how to survive in real life.
If you're asking whether I would personally use this image in that course - probably not. I am simply not offended by it. And, I question the judgement of those who claim to be offended. Do the course work, and stop worrying about the people around you. They don't matter. Do the work, get your grade, pass the course, and move on. That is what growing up is all about, right?
Dog-Cow is overly abusive with his response - but he's not far off target. Most, not all, but most of my generation were grown up when they graduated from high school. Legal adults, with the right to vote, the right to drink, the right to fight for our country, the right to marry, the right to have children, and the right to work.
Today? WTF has happened to our country?
We need Charles Darwin to remind us of that "survival of the fittest" thing.
If the kids aren't ready to make adult decisions sometime between 15 and 20, then they are not fit for survival. If parents aren't ready to cut the apron strings by the time the kids are 20, then those parents are unfit, themselves.
I understand. The weak always look for the easy way. Tell you what - you take the nice, smooth, paved highway, and I'll take the bad roads. We'll both be happy.
Maybe YOU can. I don't want MY descendants waiting around for the next huge ass rock to collide with the rock we are living on. I really want my descendants (notice that you can find DNA in the word?) spread over a few dozens of rocks. Maybe even some in another solar system.
I don't much care if your descendants put their heads under rocks, and stay here. That's their business.
Wow. Your limited view of school board members is really something. Maybe you're just projecting your own inner turmoil onto those board members?
As for the rest of your post - well - the boys AND the girls need to grow the fuck up. Oh - yeah - that's what high school is all about, right? Growing up?
The boys will eventually come to terms with being dicks, and the girls will eventually come to terms with the dicks. That's life.
I'm sorry that you were so damaged in the process of coming to terms with dicks. Unfortunately, it seems that it does happen sometimes.
So? Isn't it about time that NASA grew up, and looked further into space? We already have NOAA. Every nation on earth has weather and climate scientists. WTF do we need NASA to study the weather? We need NASA to build big honking SPACESHIPS to move mankind into the solar system. Screw the weather, in 150 years, half of mankind won't give a small damn about weather on earth.
So - only the faces of virgin girls should ever be seen in public. All other female faces have been "corrupted" by having sex? Sounds a lot like Islam to me . . .
Read your own statement again. You seem to argue that women don't belong in subjects unrelated to sex. Now, if I were to agree with you, then I would be one sexist bastard, wouldn't I?
Look at your chart again. Isn't there something odd about it? I find it somewhat amusing that after women got the vote, they 'voted' by declining to compete with the boys in technical fields.
The chart pretty well demonstrates that there is no real reason that girls can't compete with boys. It starts with girls at parity with boys. It declines for reasons that almost certainly have nothing to do with ability. Interesting, huh?
So, while you're so busy arguing for women's rights to work in technical fields, maybe you've missed the point. Maybe women really, really, really don't WANT to work in technical fields?
Now, you'll probably say something about 'cultural conditioning'. My next question would be, what conditioning caused the decline in the first place? Again - maybe it's the women who did the conditioning? Remember, the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world. Think about that for awhile.
If you and tens of thousands of other activists are busy trying to free women to do something that they really don't WANT to do, doesn't that amount to yet another kind of slavery? You want to bind those women into the same system that makes men so very competitive. Are you doing them any favors, or are you just trying to hammer all those round pegs into square holes of your own choosing?
I would argue in the opposite direction. As a teacher, I would want the controversy. Pretty much every student will be more engaged due to the controversy.
When I was a youngster, there were still teachers who didn't care if they taught you and thing. If they succeeded in teaching you how to think, they considered themselves a success. The idea has been phrased many ways, some of them quite witty.
One of the controversies when I was in high school centered around 'One flew over the cuckoo's nest'. The prudes considered it to be vulgar, and people more like yourself argued that it should be banned from the curriculum simply because it was controversial.
I can tell you that EVERYONE in the class read the book. Even the knuckle draggers and meatheads read the book. I can't say the same for any less controversial book. Every student in the class was involved during class discussion, unlike discussions about ancient "classics" like Shakespeare's works.
Bring on the controversy. There may be limits to acceptable controversy, but I certainly haven't encountered those limits.
Alright - suggested homework. YOU write the algorithm that determines whether a photo might be considered alluring, or suggestive. You write the censorship program that you require to satisfy your own sensitivities. Then, install that software on all of your electronic devices.
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My employer up until sixteen months ago did exactly that. Volume licensing would have saved them some money - not a whole lot of money, but some. But, the IT department was totally incompetent. Now that we've been bought out by a larger company, the IT department is far less incompetent, and we actually have machines that work, OS's that do what they are supposed to do, and something that passes for security. And, volume licensing.
Ditto your thoughts here. Wonder if MS even checked for such a possibility. I use a couple different VPN addresses routinely, and some others less routinely. I have no idea how many people use the same VPN's. Hundreds of thousands, maybe?
Getting OFF this rock is the most important thing. You're afraid of the weather. I'm afraid of that humonguous rock targeting earth, which will make weather irrelevant.
According to my parents? There is no doubt that my generation was far less mature than my parent's generation. I didn't find it necessary to go to the Pacific Ocean when I was fifteen years old to fight against Imperial Japan. There was no Pearl Harbor for my generation to respond to. My sister didn't find it necessary to work in a factory at age sixteen, to provide ammunition for her brothers in the Pacific. There are a lot of differences between my generation and my parent's generation.
My grandparent's generation? Huge difference again. My mother's children all survived to adulthood, except one infant. Grandma? Guess again. I'm a guy, so I don't really remember accurately - but memory indicates that the old woman birthed 18 babies - only 9 of whom lived to adulthood. The medical sciences sucked back then, and the Great Depression helped to ensure that not everyone had ready access to the best that medical science offered.
You may go on, seeking to minimalize the differences between generations, but there are real differences between us.
Trivial to get a good paying job? Really? You mean it wasn't necessary to work hard? Maybe you're confusing me and my generation with the sixties Union activists. Hell, a union member in good standing couldn't be fired for much of ANYTHING. Sorry, but I wasn't part of that socialist shindig.
Now - as for good paying jobs - have you CREATED any jobs, yourself? No? Why not? Open up a business, and put some people around you to work. Get after it, Pal. Do something useful.
Before you ask - I DID go into business. Ultimately, I failed. I employed 5 to 8 people for a few years, competing against the invading illegal aliens. I thought I was doing alright, until one of my people was injured. Ooops - no insurance. I got out from under that impending disaster, but realized it was only a matter of time before another injury would destroy me. So, I folded up, and went back to work for more established companies.
Why don't you do what I failed at, and prove yourself the better man?
Or, do you feel that government owes you a living?
Each has different missions. Maybe those missions are repetitively redundant, but at least they each have a different perspective on the same problems.
What I am saying is, NASA has a much bigger, much more important mission that studying weather and/or climate.
Ehhh. I just watched this short video again. I am mesmerized by the face of the woman in the last scene. I imagine that she's waiting for a "bus" to come along, to take her to college. Or to bring home a loved one from a years long journey. Or, maybe she's just headed to the local version of an amusement park. Or, joining classmates, then heading off to the mall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
"Low earth orbit" and "space" are not quite synonymous. Let NOAA have LEO, and NASA can go to space.
"You've essentially said the students shouldn't question authority or express themselves when they see misogyny or injustice etc. "
It's always been my motto to question authority. Question away. But, do the course work. Pass the class. Or, don't do the work, fail the class, and live with that failing grade.
Have I somehow implied that the young woman is not entitled to her opinion? Have I somehow implied that she shouldn't voice her opinion? I certainly hope not.
What I have stated pretty clearly is, I disagree with her, and I'm not at all supportive of her position. If my vote were necessary to censure the teacher, then it wouldn't happen. If the young lady is expecting me to pat her on the back for standing up to the teacher, that won't happen either.
On the other hand - if the young woman were to be punished in any way for stating her opinion, such as getting a lower grade, then I would be up in arms. The teacher in question would certainly have acted in a mysogenistic manner, overstepped his authority, and treated a student in an unethical manner.
Sounds like a heap of excuse making to me. We were discussing growing up, were we not? And, you bring up how badly the economy sucks. How does a bad economy justify immaturity? I simply don't see any connection.
Had you attacked my generation's parenting and nurturing skills, I would be right on board with the attack. Can't spank a child, can't speak harshly to a child, can't just drop kick the smart mouth into next week. How in hell did we EXPECT the kids to grow up, if they never face harsh consequences for improper conduct?
"not doing something that pops into your head"
Doing something, and studying or reading something are entirely different. I've studied how to make bombs. I've never MADE a bomb, never USED a bomb, but the knowledge is in my head.
Studying the building plans of a prison, or a bank might serve many purposes. Heading out one morning to perform a prison break, or a bank robbery would be wrong, of course, but the architecture involved shouldn't be censored.
Censorship involves suppressing knowledge, and/or governing what information a person should have access to.
You ask about good judgement? Hmmm. Certainly not the best judgement - but so what? Are we going to begin punishing people for having poor judgement?
You know, I could possibly go along with such an agenda. Except - powerful people aren't held to such a standard. Look at Clinton. That skank has such poor judgement, I wonder how she has managed to feed herself all her life, let alone raise a daughter.
Oh, forget the daughter bit. That daughter has zero understanding of money. Pampered rich bitch, doesn't have a clue how to survive in real life.
If you're asking whether I would personally use this image in that course - probably not. I am simply not offended by it. And, I question the judgement of those who claim to be offended. Do the course work, and stop worrying about the people around you. They don't matter. Do the work, get your grade, pass the course, and move on. That is what growing up is all about, right?
Then, WTF do you call it? Just WHAT do you call it? Censorship, plain and simple.
Dog-Cow is overly abusive with his response - but he's not far off target. Most, not all, but most of my generation were grown up when they graduated from high school. Legal adults, with the right to vote, the right to drink, the right to fight for our country, the right to marry, the right to have children, and the right to work.
Today? WTF has happened to our country?
We need Charles Darwin to remind us of that "survival of the fittest" thing.
If the kids aren't ready to make adult decisions sometime between 15 and 20, then they are not fit for survival. If parents aren't ready to cut the apron strings by the time the kids are 20, then those parents are unfit, themselves.
So, the relatively less bright elder brother can continue dabbling in old science, while the brighter, younger sister forges ahead into new territory.
No matter how you cut it, we don't need NASA putzing around in the atmosphere, there is another agency already dedicated to that.
I understand. The weak always look for the easy way. Tell you what - you take the nice, smooth, paved highway, and I'll take the bad roads. We'll both be happy.
Maybe YOU can. I don't want MY descendants waiting around for the next huge ass rock to collide with the rock we are living on. I really want my descendants (notice that you can find DNA in the word?) spread over a few dozens of rocks. Maybe even some in another solar system.
I don't much care if your descendants put their heads under rocks, and stay here. That's their business.
Because - censorship. Censorship is never the correct response.
Wow. Your limited view of school board members is really something. Maybe you're just projecting your own inner turmoil onto those board members?
As for the rest of your post - well - the boys AND the girls need to grow the fuck up. Oh - yeah - that's what high school is all about, right? Growing up?
The boys will eventually come to terms with being dicks, and the girls will eventually come to terms with the dicks. That's life.
I'm sorry that you were so damaged in the process of coming to terms with dicks. Unfortunately, it seems that it does happen sometimes.
So? Isn't it about time that NASA grew up, and looked further into space? We already have NOAA. Every nation on earth has weather and climate scientists. WTF do we need NASA to study the weather? We need NASA to build big honking SPACESHIPS to move mankind into the solar system. Screw the weather, in 150 years, half of mankind won't give a small damn about weather on earth.
I've heard of sex change operations, but nationality change? How did they do that?
He lies. He was still learning to spell his own name five years ago. And, his password is LMNOpeee.
So - only the faces of virgin girls should ever be seen in public. All other female faces have been "corrupted" by having sex? Sounds a lot like Islam to me . . .
Read your own statement again. You seem to argue that women don't belong in subjects unrelated to sex. Now, if I were to agree with you, then I would be one sexist bastard, wouldn't I?
Look at your chart again. Isn't there something odd about it? I find it somewhat amusing that after women got the vote, they 'voted' by declining to compete with the boys in technical fields.
The chart pretty well demonstrates that there is no real reason that girls can't compete with boys. It starts with girls at parity with boys. It declines for reasons that almost certainly have nothing to do with ability. Interesting, huh?
So, while you're so busy arguing for women's rights to work in technical fields, maybe you've missed the point. Maybe women really, really, really don't WANT to work in technical fields?
Now, you'll probably say something about 'cultural conditioning'. My next question would be, what conditioning caused the decline in the first place? Again - maybe it's the women who did the conditioning? Remember, the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world. Think about that for awhile.
If you and tens of thousands of other activists are busy trying to free women to do something that they really don't WANT to do, doesn't that amount to yet another kind of slavery? You want to bind those women into the same system that makes men so very competitive. Are you doing them any favors, or are you just trying to hammer all those round pegs into square holes of your own choosing?
I would argue in the opposite direction. As a teacher, I would want the controversy. Pretty much every student will be more engaged due to the controversy.
When I was a youngster, there were still teachers who didn't care if they taught you and thing. If they succeeded in teaching you how to think, they considered themselves a success. The idea has been phrased many ways, some of them quite witty.
One of the controversies when I was in high school centered around 'One flew over the cuckoo's nest'. The prudes considered it to be vulgar, and people more like yourself argued that it should be banned from the curriculum simply because it was controversial.
I can tell you that EVERYONE in the class read the book. Even the knuckle draggers and meatheads read the book. I can't say the same for any less controversial book. Every student in the class was involved during class discussion, unlike discussions about ancient "classics" like Shakespeare's works.
Bring on the controversy. There may be limits to acceptable controversy, but I certainly haven't encountered those limits.
Alright - suggested homework. YOU write the algorithm that determines whether a photo might be considered alluring, or suggestive. You write the censorship program that you require to satisfy your own sensitivities. Then, install that software on all of your electronic devices.