The #include syntax can be, and *is* used to accomplish the same thing. Good programs only use #include for headers, and the oject code can be written in any language as long as it exports functions properly to the linker. I've seen this done quite often with assembly, and have heard of it being done to link C programs to Pascal objects also. Changing the syntax doesn't help.
OTOH, if "using" will do on-the-fly translation of the other module into C#, that's actually kind of a neat feature.
...and invented another syntax. Like, just the other day I was saying, "what we really need is another syntax so that people will have to learn another language, so that entire codebases will have to be either ported or become obsolete. Yes that's just what I need."
(yes, that was sarcasm)
I'd like for them to explain how "using System;" is better than "#include <stdio.h>". This occurs right away on the first line of their "Hello World". I don't even want to think about what the rest of it would look like.
I'll be treating C# just like Java--trying not to learn it, and working on projects to make C and C++ interpreters faster, more secure, and more functional for the web.
This new website, firstgov.gov, will be created at no cost to the government [much deserved snip] in 90 days or less. It will uphold the highest standards for protecting the privacy of its users.
This will be the most ethical administration -- Bill Clinton, 1992.
(not an exact quote, but he did say something to that effect)
Reno forced to use Windows? How's that? The army didn't seem to have any trouble using Macs, and countless other government sites use Linux, Sun and probably all kinds of obscure crap.
The WILLTELL.COM file that it generated was 33k, but perhaps my memory exagerated this. This must be it, because it had a very memorable sound to it.
Thank-you very much for solving one of those "nagging little things" and now I probably won't have to fuss with the old hard drive.
This also explains why my searches were fruitless. Now, if somebody builds a search engine smart enough to index into compressed files, and even subindex into compressed files in formats as obscure as ARCX, I will be very impressed.
Does anybody out there have a copy of LONE.EXE? I have searched for it on the web in vain.
This was a program that played "The Lone Ranger" music through the PC speaker. The really impressive thing about it was that it was supposedly written on a pre-PC computer that used a similar instruction set and architecture to Intel (can anybody cite an example of that?).
Anyway, another really impressive thing about this program was that it was only 4k for something like 5 minutes or more of music, albeit in an electronic sounding format. I had a copy of this on my old 286, and I saved the hard drive. Unfortunately, it used an interface standard that predated ISA. I've been told it's possible to adapt the drive, but I have neither the time nor the money to look into it, and it may not be on there anyway.
This is also of some historical interest, as it is possibly one of the earliest "PC music" programs. It may even be 25 years old or more, so until I find it, I'll just have to make sure that nothing damages the old hard drive because it may be a "historical artifact".
OK, a bit of an over reaction. Also, I confess. I didn't read the article. The linked story seems to describe this as more of a VM than a language, and who knows, maybe it will even be possible to write C/C++ applications with it and wrap most of the MS-specific function calls. That would actually be something I've been looking for.
...because I'm pro-Windows will now be shocked. Here's what I have to say: GO AWAY.
Don't want another syntax. Don't need another syntax. Like C. Like C++. Hate most everything else.
Why? Two words: Content obsolescence. That's all Java ever did for me. Great... another language to learn. Blow me. Take your C-# (c-pound) and POUND IT.
...there will always be a nagging doubt about where it came from. I mean, what if we didn't sterilize one of our previous probes properly?
Now, the first thing that leaps to mind is that they would be able to recognize the DNA of the microbes as being either common to Earth or not. OTOH, how fast could Earth microbes mutate to adapt to Mars?
For that matter, how do they sterilize probes anyway? Is it really safe to assume that the cold vacuum of space kills all microbes?
So, I hope they find some really funky 3-eyed lungfish flapping around in the mud down there. Then we'll know for sure.
...Scientists using the Hubble Space Telescope discoverd intergalactic coffee. There is now speculation that the Big Bang was a result of the early universe being excessively "wired". Starbucks executives declined to comment.
Of course you have to draw the distinction between an idea and an implementation of an idea. For example, Z-buffering and BSPing are ideas. The source code for Quake-3 Arena is not an "idea" in the traditional sense.
Now, Jefferson's notion that protection of intellectual property should be based on public benefit does bear a strong resemblance to the anti-premise expressed in Stallman's "Why Software Should Be Free" (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html, "The Question of Premises") but notice that Jefferson does not draw the conclusion that patents and/or protections should never be granted.
I don't necessarily disagree with Stallman's premise--only the conclusions he draws from it. I fear that if we don't learn from history, in particular the history of socialism, we will be condemned to repeat it.
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You could make all your external links point to a Perl script that either spewed the right page at the browser, or made a log entry if the link was down. All your links would look like this: <a href="http://foo.bar.com/cgi-bin/safe_link.pl?http ://www.externalwebsite.com/">click here</a> Of course the downside is that the beauty of simple hyperlinks is lost.
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Good News: Radio Shak will give them a remote control car.
Bad News: It can only turn right, and batteries are not included.
If you ever played with one of the cheap RC cars they sell at Radio Shak this should be funny, if you haven't played with one, reach for some spare change, go down to RS and buy one. You owe it to yourself as a geek. When you get bored with it, there are all kinds of things you can do with the cheap little RC mechanism.
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Realistic stuff is sold in USA too. BTW, The Edge in Electronics (snooty mall stores full of cell phones and other small devices), and Computer City (big computer megastores the size of a supermarket) are also owned by Tandy/Radioshak.
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Well, as advertised, it *does* convert PDF to HTML in a way that would work very well for text-to-speach software.
It strips *all* formatting, including many br tags. It's really not much better than a plain text converter.
So, if you're visually impared and need to read a PDF, this is fine, but it falls far short of what I want: A true free PDF to HTML converter that does its best to preserve the look of the original document.
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...at this URL: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/5efe.htm
This is a plugin for the acrobat reader. They say it's for visually impaired people--you have to convert the PDF to some kind of ascii text so that text-to-speach programs will work. Hmmm... with Magellan's converter selling for $200, you have to wonder why Adobe burried this under "access for the disabled". Anyhow, this could be the solution that I've been looking for. Watch this space; if I'm in a good mood and we don't lose power tonight, I may post a review.
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After you solve the paper to PDF problem...
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...could you solve my PDF to HTML problem? I haven't seen any cheap converters for that either. I wouldn't hate PDF so much if I could convert it. I understand that dead tree documents have their place, but that shouldn't come at the expense of on-line documents. Until someone comes up with a free PDF to HTML converter, I will continue to complain to companies and government agencies that post documentation in PDF.
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Having said all of that.. why did you buy a Mavica?
It was a clearance sale. I got a very good deal. In fact, later I hit myself for not buying more and re-selling them on eBay, because I probably could have made some money. Were it not for the sale, I'd probably still be drooling at the digicams. Given my current budget, I can't really justify a 800-1000 dollar expenditure for a nonessential item.
Don't get me wrong, I love it to death, but here are a few critiques:
Now, it's a good product, but they have ignored some things that could make it a truly great product. First, scrap this business of having to hold it at arms length and look at the video screen. The screen is nice for previewing pictures, but I would rather look through a viewfinder.
Mount the viewfinder so that the camera would be turned 90 degrees towards you when shooting, with respect to the way it is held now. (my ascii art sucks, so I hope I am conveying this clearly). In that position, you would be holding the floppy unit "flat". I think that would be much more natural.
Also, as I look at the newer model Mavicas, I see that they have added a lot of features like sound, MPEG movie mode, etc. Big mistake!!! The whole point of having a Digicam is to take stills. If I wanted a camcorder, I would have bought one. All the effort they spend engineering those features is a big WASTE!!! If I were in charge of the Mavica design, I would strip any feature that didn't have to do with taking excellent still pictures, and plunge any savings into making the CCD larger. Pixelation is what keeps digicams from being a perfect replacement for film cameras. Eliminate visible pixelation, and you've got yourself a killer product.
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Hmmm... Symbol of the Democratic Party (US), symbol of the Linux movement. Coincidence? The Truth is Out There.
The #include syntax can be, and *is* used to accomplish the same thing. Good programs only use #include for headers, and the oject code can be written in any language as long as it exports functions properly to the linker. I've seen this done quite often with assembly, and have heard of it being done to link C programs to Pascal objects also. Changing the syntax doesn't help.
OTOH, if "using" will do on-the-fly translation of the other module into C#, that's actually kind of a neat feature.
...and invented another syntax. Like, just the other day I was saying, "what we really need is another syntax so that people will have to learn another language, so that entire codebases will have to be either ported or become obsolete. Yes that's just what I need."
(yes, that was sarcasm)
I'd like for them to explain how "using System;" is better than "#include <stdio.h>". This occurs right away on the first line of their "Hello World". I don't even want to think about what the rest of it would look like.
I'll be treating C# just like Java--trying not to learn it, and working on projects to make C and C++ interpreters faster, more secure, and more functional for the web.
This new website, firstgov.gov, will be created at no cost to the government [much deserved snip] in 90 days or less. It will uphold the highest standards for protecting the privacy of its users.
This will be the most ethical administration -- Bill Clinton, 1992.
(not an exact quote, but he did say something to that effect)
Reno forced to use Windows? How's that? The army didn't seem to have any trouble using Macs, and countless other government sites use Linux, Sun and probably all kinds of obscure crap.
Thanks!!!
The WILLTELL.COM file that it generated was 33k, but perhaps my memory exagerated this. This must be it, because it had a very memorable sound to it.
Thank-you very much for solving one of those "nagging little things" and now I probably won't have to fuss with the old hard drive.
This also explains why my searches were fruitless. Now, if somebody builds a search engine smart enough to index into compressed files, and even subindex into compressed files in formats as obscure as ARCX, I will be very impressed.
ArcticChicken should be moderated up Informative.
Does anybody out there have a copy of LONE.EXE? I have searched for it on the web in vain.
This was a program that played "The Lone Ranger" music through the PC speaker. The really impressive thing about it was that it was supposedly written on a pre-PC computer that used a similar instruction set and architecture to Intel (can anybody cite an example of that?).
Anyway, another really impressive thing about this program was that it was only 4k for something like 5 minutes or more of music, albeit in an electronic sounding format. I had a copy of this on my old 286, and I saved the hard drive. Unfortunately, it used an interface standard that predated ISA. I've been told it's possible to adapt the drive, but I have neither the time nor the money to look into it, and it may not be on there anyway.
This is also of some historical interest, as it is possibly one of the earliest "PC music" programs. It may even be 25 years old or more, so until I find it, I'll just have to make sure that nothing damages the old hard drive because it may be a "historical artifact".
OK, a bit of an over reaction. Also, I confess. I didn't read the article. The linked story seems to describe this as more of a VM than a language, and who knows, maybe it will even be possible to write C/C++ applications with it and wrap most of the MS-specific function calls. That would actually be something I've been looking for.
...because I'm pro-Windows will now be shocked. Here's what I have to say: GO AWAY.
Don't want another syntax. Don't need another syntax. Like C. Like C++. Hate most everything else.
Why? Two words: Content obsolescence. That's all Java ever did for me. Great... another language to learn. Blow me. Take your C-# (c-pound) and POUND IT.
Or is http://www.prospect.org/controversy/open_source/ a bad URL?
...there will always be a nagging doubt about where it came from. I mean, what if we didn't sterilize one of our previous probes properly?
Now, the first thing that leaps to mind is that they would be able to recognize the DNA of the microbes as being either common to Earth or not. OTOH, how fast could Earth microbes mutate to adapt to Mars?
For that matter, how do they sterilize probes anyway? Is it really safe to assume that the cold vacuum of space kills all microbes?
So, I hope they find some really funky 3-eyed lungfish flapping around in the mud down there. Then we'll know for sure.
...Scientists using the Hubble Space Telescope discoverd intergalactic coffee. There is now speculation that the Big Bang was a result of the early universe being excessively "wired". Starbucks executives declined to comment.
I'm seriously interested in whether there is a website, or something that allows gambling on the outcome of all of this.
Yes, it's called E-Trade
The regular
Of course you have to draw the distinction between an idea and an implementation of an idea. For example, Z-buffering and BSPing are ideas. The source code for Quake-3 Arena is not an "idea" in the traditional sense.
Now, Jefferson's notion that protection of intellectual property should be based on public benefit does bear a strong resemblance to the anti-premise expressed in Stallman's "Why Software Should Be Free" (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html, "The Question of Premises") but notice that Jefferson does not draw the conclusion that patents and/or protections should never be granted.
I don't necessarily disagree with Stallman's premise--only the conclusions he draws from it. I fear that if we don't learn from history, in particular the history of socialism, we will be condemned to repeat it.
The regular
You could make all your external links point to a Perl script that either spewed the right page at the browser, or made a log entry if the link was down. All your links would look like this: <a href="http://foo.bar.com/cgi-bin/safe_link.pl?http ://www.externalwebsite.com/">click here</a> Of course the downside is that the beauty of simple hyperlinks is lost.
The regular
...are a strong social framework, a tradition for the respect of individual rights, and a rational government working in harmony.
Stop looking for technological fixes to problems that aren't technological.
The regular
There is a lot about factoring in the article. Is Brocot's AlGoreRhythm potentially useful to speed factoring?
The regular
Good News: Radio Shak will give them a remote control car.
Bad News: It can only turn right, and batteries are not included.
If you ever played with one of the cheap RC cars they sell at Radio Shak this should be funny, if you haven't played with one, reach for some spare change, go down to RS and buy one. You owe it to yourself as a geek. When you get bored with it, there are all kinds of things you can do with the cheap little RC mechanism.
The regular
Realistic stuff is sold in USA too. BTW, The Edge in Electronics (snooty mall stores full of cell phones and other small devices), and Computer City (big computer megastores the size of a supermarket) are also owned by Tandy/Radioshak.
The regular
Well, as advertised, it *does* convert PDF to HTML in a way that would work very well for text-to-speach software.
It strips *all* formatting, including many br tags. It's really not much better than a plain text converter.
So, if you're visually impared and need to read a PDF, this is fine, but it falls far short of what I want: A true free PDF to HTML converter that does its best to preserve the look of the original document.
The regular
...at this URL: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/5efe.htm
This is a plugin for the acrobat reader. They say it's for visually impaired people--you have to convert the PDF to some kind of ascii text so that text-to-speach programs will work. Hmmm... with Magellan's converter selling for $200, you have to wonder why Adobe burried this under "access for the disabled". Anyhow, this could be the solution that I've been looking for. Watch this space; if I'm in a good mood and we don't lose power tonight, I may post a review.
The regular
...could you solve my PDF to HTML problem? I haven't seen any cheap converters for that either. I wouldn't hate PDF so much if I could convert it. I understand that dead tree documents have their place, but that shouldn't come at the expense of on-line documents. Until someone comes up with a free PDF to HTML converter, I will continue to complain to companies and government agencies that post documentation in PDF.
The regular
Yes, then the International Association for Dyslexic People could register dp.qb
None of them would *ever* find it.
The regular
Having said all of that.. why did you buy a Mavica?
It was a clearance sale. I got a very good deal. In fact, later I hit myself for not buying more and re-selling them on eBay, because I probably could have made some money. Were it not for the sale, I'd probably still be drooling at the digicams. Given my current budget, I can't really justify a 800-1000 dollar expenditure for a nonessential item.
Don't get me wrong, I love it to death, but here are a few critiques:
Now, it's a good product, but they have ignored some things that could make it a truly great product. First, scrap this business of having to hold it at arms length and look at the video screen. The screen is nice for previewing pictures, but I would rather look through a viewfinder.
Mount the viewfinder so that the camera would be turned 90 degrees towards you when shooting, with respect to the way it is held now. (my ascii art sucks, so I hope I am conveying this clearly). In that position, you would be holding the floppy unit "flat". I think that would be much more natural.
Also, as I look at the newer model Mavicas, I see that they have added a lot of features like sound, MPEG movie mode, etc. Big mistake!!! The whole point of having a Digicam is to take stills. If I wanted a camcorder, I would have bought one. All the effort they spend engineering those features is a big WASTE!!! If I were in charge of the Mavica design, I would strip any feature that didn't have to do with taking excellent still pictures, and plunge any savings into making the CCD larger. Pixelation is what keeps digicams from being a perfect replacement for film cameras. Eliminate visible pixelation, and you've got yourself a killer product.
Here's hoping Sony people read /.