Comments similar to "If you don't like MAPS, don't use it" are VERY short sighted.
Many ISP's subscribe to MAPS/RBL/ORBs etc. and thus then block mail to all of their subscribers.
This means that if MY ISP's decides to subscribe, I don't get the option to 'opt out'. This is FORCED censorship.
I was a large supporter of these organizations while administering an e-mail system which had over 2 million maildrops. Roughly 1.5 years ago I began to see the 'change' and decided that It was unethical to continue to use them. Simply put, it was too hard to double-check and ensure that politics and the over-zealous did not keep my customers from communicating.
I think that unless there is some democratic process (one not driven by high-paying subscribers that is) these sorts of black list organizations are nothing more than base and elitist censors.
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I am continually amazed by this thread.
We are trashing a valid open-source project for taking a different approach and focusing on a style of useability that perhaps exceeds that of existing ones.
GNOME/KDE are visual fluff and no easier than windows to code for. Trying to 'take what you like' from an older successfull WM and creating new WM projects diversifies the selections and perhaps will lead those whom 'try' before trashing it, to a conclusion that something light and highly useable is often preferred to bloat-ware eye-candy.
Un*x desktops are loosing thier useability and becoming buggy and inefficient resource consuming slovenly beasts. There is good cause to consider that just because a few people want windows that look like anime frames, doesn't mean that its a good solution for everyone.
Heck, I thought my IRIX Interactive Desktop was way resource intensive, until I started working with GNOME/Enlightenment/KDE etc.
Has anyone tried running a modern workstation with a simple window manager, like WM2 in a while? Its amazing the difference in memory and CPU available after such a change. I have a dual-channel display and often switch to a 'light' WM when I do work requiring many windows and resources. I can run GNOME+Enlightenment up to over 120megs on my SGI Octane! If I run the same apps and same number of windows my desktop under WM2 or AfterStep is just a tiny fraction of that!
My point being, lets lay off trashing people for trying to be user-friendly instead of focusing on the aesthetics. (especially since 1/2 of the posts here are obviously from lil script kiddies whom haven't the foggiest cloo about what they are posting)
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Comments similar to "If you don't like MAPS, don't use it" are VERY short sighted.
Many ISP's subscribe to MAPS/RBL/ORBs etc. and thus then block mail to all of their subscribers.
This means that if MY ISP's decides to subscribe, I don't get the option to 'opt out'. This is FORCED censorship.
I was a large supporter of these organizations while administering an e-mail system which had over 2 million maildrops. Roughly 1.5 years ago I began to see the 'change' and decided that It was unethical to continue to use them. Simply put, it was too hard to double-check and ensure that politics and the over-zealous did not keep my customers from communicating.
I think that unless there is some democratic process (one not driven by high-paying subscribers that is) these sorts of black list organizations are nothing more than base and elitist censors.
rr
I am continually amazed by this thread.
We are trashing a valid open-source project for taking a different approach and focusing on a style of useability that perhaps exceeds that of existing ones.
GNOME/KDE are visual fluff and no easier than windows to code for. Trying to 'take what you like' from an older successfull WM and creating new WM projects diversifies the selections and perhaps will lead those whom 'try' before trashing it, to a conclusion that something light and highly useable is often preferred to bloat-ware eye-candy.
Un*x desktops are loosing thier useability and becoming buggy and inefficient resource consuming slovenly beasts. There is good cause to consider that just because a few people want windows that look like anime frames, doesn't mean that its a good solution for everyone.
Heck, I thought my IRIX Interactive Desktop was way resource intensive, until I started working with GNOME/Enlightenment/KDE etc.
Has anyone tried running a modern workstation with a simple window manager, like WM2 in a while? Its amazing the difference in memory and CPU available after such a change. I have a dual-channel display and often switch to a 'light' WM when I do work requiring many windows and resources. I can run GNOME+Enlightenment up to over 120megs on my SGI Octane! If I run the same apps and same number of windows my desktop under WM2 or AfterStep is just a tiny fraction of that!
My point being, lets lay off trashing people for trying to be user-friendly instead of focusing on the aesthetics. (especially since 1/2 of the posts here are obviously from lil script kiddies whom haven't the foggiest cloo about what they are posting)