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  1. Re:Establishing de facto (open source) standard ? on ECMAScript 4.0 Is Dead · · Score: 1

    OpenLaszlo would be much better example since you can 'export' to dhtml or flash if you want. That's theory but... sounds nice.

  2. Re:To me, on Is Anyone Using the Google Web Toolkit? · · Score: 1

    I don't agree :)
    Keep in mind that adobe persuaded google and yahoo somehow to crawl flash sites (?) which, in my opinion is a bad thing. The reason behind that is most likely the fact that there are a lot of flash sites to index and search engine folks can earn additional money on adverts thanks to indexing more stuff.
    So I think it'll be the same with ajax apps, finally someone will start crawling 'em just to earn more money.
    The best thing would be to have framework which would allow you to deploy js and no-js version of site without additional work but that's a dream.

  3. Re:To me, on Is Anyone Using the Google Web Toolkit? · · Score: 1

    Well, that's not 100% true. Opera mini, which I'm using really often, pre-render some javascript 'parts' of the page on the server side since it support only small subset of js specification. So if opera folks can do that I don't see a reason why search engines can't do the same. Anyway, I agree that page should render and work properly without javascript but there's no way to enforce people to make their websites/webapps like that. cheers!