You don't think andover.net might've gotten a discount on hosting do you?;)
traceroute to slashdot.org (209.207.224.42), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
[...snip...]
6 if-10-0.core1.NewYork.Teleglobe.net (195.219.0.186) 181.520 ms 181.939 ms 177.482 ms 7 ix-7-0.core1.NewYork.Teleglobe.net (207.45.196.138) 181.301 ms 179.131 ms 180.356 ms 8 205.171.17.126 (205.171.17.126) 170.613 ms 170.509 ms 160.618 ms 9 wdc-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.5.235) 179.122 ms 216.764 ms 178.501 ms 10 wdc-edge-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.24.46) 178.695 ms 198.788 ms 170.019 ms 11 t3-customer.qwest.net (205.171.52.242) 186.815 ms 192.295 ms 193.997 ms 12 ge1200.ca2.wdc.dn.net (209.207.190.33) 183.276 ms 177.851 ms 189.324 ms 13 209.207.224.42 (209.207.224.42) 180.038 ms 175.529 ms 173.293 ms
If I am an ISP sysadmin I do ***NOT*** own the network or even the machine that the network is attatched to. I do not even own a single byte of data that is transfered in any way shape or form. I am sorry to be this blunt but if I for example hire a person to squish grapes to make wine the grape masher does not have a word of say at all in the process of making the wine. All he has to do is smash grapes and not complain. All that he does is carry out orders from others using a set of fuzzy logic and AI that machines cannot perfect in that particular case.
I AM an ISP sysadmin. while I don't "own" the servers or the data being passed to them, I AM given shit by my boss when I ask for additional hardware or more bandwidth to counteract the effects of SPAM (whether its mail or news is irrelevant).
Whether or not I choose to allow your data onto my comany's network, is my decision. If users don't like it, they'll complain, and I'll be forced to allow your data onto my network.
However, our users tend to complain more about spam as they have to pay for local calls, therefore...
Users pay for downloading SPAM ISPs have to buy more bandwidth to cope with SPAM
Pay me money, and you can send me SPAM (no, you can't pay me money, and I'll let you SPAM from my network before you ask), until then, I'll choose whether or not you can use my network.
Slashdot Mirror
Get one of the Motorola tri-band phones (approx. £150/200 - Without a contract) from Carphone Warehouse or Vodaphone Retail.
Vodaphone/BTCellnet have roaming agreements that cover pretty much most of the major US/Canada cities
You don't think andover.net might've gotten a discount on hosting do you? ;)
traceroute to slashdot.org (209.207.224.42), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
[...snip...]
6 if-10-0.core1.NewYork.Teleglobe.net (195.219.0.186) 181.520 ms 181.939 ms 177.482 ms
7 ix-7-0.core1.NewYork.Teleglobe.net (207.45.196.138) 181.301 ms 179.131 ms 180.356 ms
8 205.171.17.126 (205.171.17.126) 170.613 ms 170.509 ms 160.618 ms
9 wdc-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.5.235) 179.122 ms 216.764 ms 178.501 ms
10 wdc-edge-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.24.46) 178.695 ms 198.788 ms 170.019 ms
11 t3-customer.qwest.net (205.171.52.242) 186.815 ms 192.295 ms 193.997 ms
12 ge1200.ca2.wdc.dn.net (209.207.190.33) 183.276 ms 177.851 ms 189.324 ms
13 209.207.224.42 (209.207.224.42) 180.038 ms 175.529 ms 173.293 ms
If I am an ISP sysadmin I do ***NOT*** own the network or even the machine that the network is attatched to. I do not even own a single byte of data that is transfered in any way shape or form. I am sorry to be this blunt but if I for example hire a person to squish grapes to make wine the grape masher does not have a word of say at all in the process of making the wine. All he has to do is smash grapes and not complain. All that he does is carry out orders from others using a set of fuzzy logic and AI that machines cannot perfect in that particular case.
:)
I AM an ISP sysadmin. while I don't "own" the servers or the data being passed to them, I AM given shit by my boss when I ask for additional hardware or more bandwidth to counteract the effects of SPAM (whether its mail or news is irrelevant).
Whether or not I choose to allow your data onto my comany's network, is my decision. If users don't like it, they'll complain, and I'll be forced to allow your data onto my network.
However, our users tend to complain more about spam as they have to pay for local calls, therefore...
Users pay for downloading SPAM
ISPs have to buy more bandwidth to cope with SPAM
Pay me money, and you can send me SPAM (no, you can't pay me money, and I'll let you SPAM from my network before you ask), until then, I'll choose whether or not you can use my network.
p.s. Crap analogy..nice try though
well yeah, but you'd also need to pay the electric bill :(
;)
So you just get another card to pay the bill
Surely having a Flying Pig on your credit card would be even more supercool (in an even more stupid sort of way)?