I think now I can finally say we are on the same page.
I don't have a problem with saying God started the Big Bang, that is actually what I believe.
My problem probably derives from the fact that some of my teachers have taught the big bang theory as fact and when
you call them out on it, they don't give in and continue to teach as it is fact. Don't get me wrong I love science, it
is my best subject by far, besides religion of course.
I will admit that that was a stretch in quoting the Bible, but you will find most people would agree with that though.
And, yes that is EXACTLY why there are so many sects of Christianity. Even the same denomination of a church will vary in what
they believe depending on their Pastor.
Well, I'm sorry, but I guess one of us was mistaken because I don't remember saying that if it isn't in the Bible we don't believe, but we do believe in God gifting humans with intelligent minds. We believe in medicine. We only don't believe in something if it conflicts something in the Bible or we believe strongly, we agree with most science discoveries. The ones that we have problems with are the ones that are more theories. The things that make science more of a religion, because science is a religion when it comes to certain topics(evolution, big bang, etc.) Those topics are the ones that we disagree with most of everything else we don't have a single problem with. (In the old testament it does though talk about God gifting people with gifts. So in a way it does talk about these three mentioned things indirectly, but you have to think about it a little bit.) Where would religion be if you don't have a little faith and extent the text a little bit. Pray about things and move on them without any proof whatsoever. It gets a little interesting, but very very peaceful in your life.
No, no one has directly claimed to know the mind of God, but by claiming you know exactly what happened in the past. Claiming fact when it is just a theory. That Is when scientist cross the line.
Sorry if I seem rude or anything, but it just is a pet peeve of mine when people who don't know too much about religion start claiming they know the real problems between religion and science. I don't know, but it just doesn't seem to make too much sense to me.
Well, Coming from a religious perspective, this is not very true. We don't believe that the Big Bang didn't happen, we just don't believe that the Big Bang happened by pure happenstance. We believe if that is what happened God played a role in getting it going. With evolution there is just as much proof for it as there is against it and please read Genesis and tell me where it says evolution happened? I personally believe God created Humans along with a bunch of Plants and Animals, but from there God had some creatures evolve to help them stay alive longer. So I am a little in the Middle, but more towards Creation.
Think about it, God so AMAZING and so SMART who loves humans so much made us come from Apes?
Do you really want your ancestry to be apes?
Just because there are a lot of similarities between humans and other animals, does that really mean anything?
Could it just be that, that format of bones or genetics worked best for a variety of creatures?
God is smart you know, He had to know what he was doing while creating us and the other creatures and is
there a rule that every creature has to be 100% different or evolution is the only possibility?
The bigger problem is how scientist get the idea that they know God and God's mind. What is any human to say
God made evolution, etc. You accused us religious of being bigger than God, without realizing you were doing the same.
I say it is not Religion v. God, but Science v. God/Religion. Science gets all excited they made some huge
discovery about the past and how Humans got here, then religion gets in there way, so science tries every way to
disprove religion, but remember that science was made to prove that God exists, not to prove God doesn't exists.
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I think now I can finally say we are on the same page. I don't have a problem with saying God started the Big Bang, that is actually what I believe. My problem probably derives from the fact that some of my teachers have taught the big bang theory as fact and when you call them out on it, they don't give in and continue to teach as it is fact. Don't get me wrong I love science, it is my best subject by far, besides religion of course. I will admit that that was a stretch in quoting the Bible, but you will find most people would agree with that though. And, yes that is EXACTLY why there are so many sects of Christianity. Even the same denomination of a church will vary in what they believe depending on their Pastor.
Well, I'm sorry, but I guess one of us was mistaken because I don't remember saying that if it isn't in the Bible we don't believe, but we do believe in God gifting humans with intelligent minds. We believe in medicine. We only don't believe in
something if it conflicts something in the Bible or we believe strongly, we agree with most science discoveries. The ones
that we have problems with are the ones that are more theories. The things that make science more of a religion, because
science is a religion when it comes to certain topics(evolution, big bang, etc.) Those topics are the ones that we disagree
with most of everything else we don't have a single problem with. (In the old testament it does though talk about God gifting
people with gifts. So in a way it does talk about these three mentioned things indirectly, but you have to think about it
a little bit.) Where would religion be if you don't have a little faith and extent the text a little bit. Pray about things
and move on them without any proof whatsoever. It gets a little interesting, but very very peaceful in your life.
No, no one has directly claimed to know the mind of God, but by claiming you know exactly what happened in the past. Claiming
fact when it is just a theory. That Is when scientist cross the line.
Sorry if I seem rude or anything, but it just is a pet peeve of mine when people who don't know too much about religion start
claiming they know the real problems between religion and science. I don't know, but it just doesn't seem to make too much
sense to me.
Well, Coming from a religious perspective, this is not very true. We don't believe that the Big Bang didn't happen, we just don't believe that the Big Bang happened by pure happenstance. We believe if that is what happened God played a role in getting it going. With evolution there is just as much proof for it as there is against it and please read Genesis and tell me where it says evolution happened? I personally believe God created Humans along with a bunch of Plants and Animals, but from there God had some creatures evolve to help them stay alive longer. So I am a little in the Middle, but more towards Creation. Think about it, God so AMAZING and so SMART who loves humans so much made us come from Apes? Do you really want your ancestry to be apes? Just because there are a lot of similarities between humans and other animals, does that really mean anything? Could it just be that, that format of bones or genetics worked best for a variety of creatures? God is smart you know, He had to know what he was doing while creating us and the other creatures and is there a rule that every creature has to be 100% different or evolution is the only possibility? The bigger problem is how scientist get the idea that they know God and God's mind. What is any human to say God made evolution, etc. You accused us religious of being bigger than God, without realizing you were doing the same. I say it is not Religion v. God, but Science v. God/Religion. Science gets all excited they made some huge discovery about the past and how Humans got here, then religion gets in there way, so science tries every way to disprove religion, but remember that science was made to prove that God exists, not to prove God doesn't exists.