There may be some restrictions when it comes to copyright. If they were letting anyone download them then this makes the copyright weaker, but they might be able to stop you. This would be stopping you the same way the MPAA has stopped people from redistributing the DeCSS source though (i.e. not at all)
From a quick look at www.usb.org, there seems to be a lot of documentation still available, including most older documentation.
The only document that seems to be restricted are those from the 1999 USB 2.0 conference. This may be a bad thing, but right now it looks like its just an attempt to prevent incompatible standards.
Either that or something I missed entirely is blocked.
It may be a lot nicer, but there aren't many devices for it. And as for number of devices, can't you put one of everything USB device onto a USB bus right now?
Its unfortunate, but we're stuck using the second best for the sake of compatibility
Without patent protection, no one would have bothered to invent the computer.
Yes they would. Was Collossus patented? If there was a need for a computer then it would have been invented eventually. Maybe the technological advance would be slower but it would have happened. Although most people have a problem with Software patents. Software is the only thing I can think of that is protected by Patent AND Copyright laws. Try patenting a dictionary.
And then there's the majority of these websites which are designed really badly,
Yeah, I've found some very bad ones (www.maplins.co.uk is terrible unless you know exactly what you want)
Paper catalogues can't really go wrong in that respect (unless the company are complete idiots).
It would be quite easy. Just have a list of names of objects on page 1, pictures on other pages, and no way of cross referencing. This doesn't happen because everyone knows what a good magazine looks like. For some reason, not everybody looks to find out what succesful websites are like.
I don't see anything interesting about this article.
Well, a summary would be:
"Despite the recent huge push for everyone to get on to the internet, there seems to be a similar move from the internet to phisical media"
I was quite interested by the observation that some internet companies are experimenting with paper catalogues (Its only a matter of time before Amazon comes up with a "technology" that automates printing a catalogue[1])
The obvious conclusion is both media will merge.
[1]Just in case Amazon DOES try to patent this, here's some prior art I've got an idea for a system thats connected to a database that can print paper catlogues on demand. You could have it so that it can create a downloadable printable document for home printing, or be printed elsewhere and delivered
My god, there is somewhere other than the good-old-USA? Does the government know about this?
Of course the government knows about this. There are precisely 2 countries.
One of them is the US. This consists of the North American continent and various parts of Europe as well as Australasia, the moon and various other small countries.
The other country is called "Them", or possibly "Goodamn Commies". This consists of anywhere that isn't the US.
The US and Them relationship has always been difficult owing to irreconcilable diffrences. The main one being US is right, and Them's wrong
Surely it would be easier to get a non-US supercomputer.
Maybe most fast CPU's are made in countries that are friendly to the US and have similar controls and export rules, but surely these rules would be pointless if there is a single country without these rules that can make fast computers.
Alternatively just do some serious overclocking. Just how fast can you make an only just about legal CPU go?
Okay, I didn't know about pressing escape, so thanks for that.
While I agree that there are a lot of nice features, I still don't like VC++ that much. It just seems to be configurable in just about every way except the way I want to configure it.
Kdevelop seems to lack those features that make VC++ good and keeps all the ones I dislike. I'll still use it, because there isn't anything better around, and it does show promise. I just feel that there are better ways to design it than trying to clone VC.
I realise I have a lot of venom towards VC++. but I don't like it and I just keep feeling that it will drive all competitors away, leaving me with no choice.
Have you ever USED VC++ or just seen screenshots and assumed it was exactly like KDevelop
Yep. I've used VC++, Watcom, Borland Turbo C for DOS (I really liked that one) and I've even managed to shuffle the VC++ panels around so that they aren't quite as in the way.
Now, what I can't seem to do is have the floating windows floating at the bottom of the screen. They seem to jump into a panel again. Obviously there's a simple intuitive way to make the windows float down there rather than in the middle of the screen, that I'm too stupid to work out. I'm so stupid I can't even pop the editor window out. The output panel can't be made to appear as a tab of the workspace panel. As far as I know the online help can't appear in the output window. It isn't possible to have one panel showing files and anther showing classes.
Regardless of this, my complaint was aimed at Kdevelop which doen't let you do anything to the panels. It doesn't seem to like external editors either. Not only that, but it doesn't try to do anything new.
I've never said that vi or emacs does everything a coder needs. The reason for this is that I don't think they do.
Okay, I know this is still a fairly early version and this will be fixed. I also feel that this is the best Linux IDE around at the moment (There isn't really too much competition).
The question is why are the KDE developers just looking at a single IDE? All of them have features that are worthwhile. Can't we look at all of these as well? Can't we come up with some features that aren't in any of these? Why are we still playing catchup?
The editor's quite nice, but the workspace panel and the output panel take up far too much screen space leaving you with a tiny window to type in. This just seems pointless. You don't need the workspace panel and the output panel at the same time.
The last version of KDevelop was even worse in that you couldn't move these panels around. (Has this been changed yet?)
Borland managed a very nice looking IDE. I even quite liked the Watcom one. But why should people be looking at any PC IDE? Can't linux people innovate?
Yeah. Me too. I love this sort of stuff! But what happened to the Kernel 2.3.47 announcement? We haven't had a new kernel release article for over a week goddammit!
Having read abvout what a nasty and insidious thing this company did, I went to their web site to see what they do. Before I hadn't heard of them. I'd be surprised if they didn't get a few more customers from this.
Its an internet referal system that lets people link to amazon as an associate Asociate sets up a web site about a part of amazon's catalogue (possibly with reviews or something). Amazon's website receives the referal link and the product ID from the link. If the customer purchases something then tha associate is payed commission. Amazon also has a shooping basket system.
When you look at it like this, it seems very obvious and trivial. Surely there's always been sites that offer reviews and link to a site that sells the things being reviewed.
Do you really think those tapes can be read today without tremendous expenditure of time and effort?
Well, I guess I should have quoted the whole line, but I was referring to the comment about transferring it from one format to a less obselete format. And the problem was that you would still need software compatibility. If the steel ribbon tapes WERE transferred to various forms of disk through the ages, then reading the bits wouldn't be hard. However if the data was compressed in a weird way, then no they couldn't be read easily without some form of software emulation.
A perfectly readable copy of a digital document is useless if there is not software program available to translate it into human-readable form.
Is there an example of a computer system that doesn't exist anymore, and can't be emulated at a much greater speed than the origional using existing software? Even most arcade machines can be emulated these days
You can copyright software inthe UK. All Software in the UK is implicitly copyrighted when it is written. The copyright belongs to the creator. It also loses strength if the copyright is not defended.
What you can't do is patent software (strictly speaking. There are ways around this) A patent is totally different in that it protects inventions rather than a form of words, it has to be specifically applied for and does not need to be defended to remain valid.
This is quite likely. What I find interesting is that most EULA's try to restrict your use of the software. The GPL actually grants rights and uses copyright law as a protection for those who refuse it. To violate the GPL you first have to violate copyright laws.
Well, I've never seen Mein Kampf on a bookshelf, but my History teacher assured me that it was available if you ask for it. This is essentially the same thing as the library censors (they would have been removed if requested). Although I do agree that it shouldn't be up to the library to restrict people in an attempt to enforce what parents don't want their children to see.
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people can be trusted to look at an issue and do the Right Thing.
The trouble is that this isn't THE right thing. Children can still go to a library and look at things that their parents consider unsuitable for them. This could be considered wrong. The decision was whether this is this more or less wrong than blanket censorship.
Most children, I think, will satisfy their initial curiosity and move on. Maybe I'm a hopeless optimist,
I think you're right. Difficult to convince a lot of parents of this though.
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As long as they didn't sign any contract: None
There may be some restrictions when it comes to copyright. If they were letting anyone download them then this makes the copyright weaker, but they might be able to stop you. This would be stopping you the same way the MPAA has stopped people from redistributing the DeCSS source though (i.e. not at all)
There are about 100 members. that translates to $250 000.
This is trivial compared with the amount that can be made from licencing the patent. Why do they bother charging?
From a quick look at www.usb.org, there seems to be a lot of documentation still available, including most older documentation.
The only document that seems to be restricted are those from the 1999 USB 2.0 conference. This may be a bad thing, but right now it looks like its just an attempt to prevent incompatible standards.
Either that or something I missed entirely is blocked.
It may be a lot nicer, but there aren't many devices for it. And as for number of devices, can't you put one of everything USB device onto a USB bus right now?
Its unfortunate, but we're stuck using the second best for the sake of compatibility
Without patent protection, no one would have bothered to invent the computer.
Yes they would. Was Collossus patented? If there was a need for a computer then it would have been invented eventually. Maybe the technological advance would be slower but it would have happened. Although most people have a problem with Software patents. Software is the only thing I can think of that is protected by Patent AND Copyright laws. Try patenting a dictionary.
And then there's the majority of these websites which are designed really badly,
Yeah, I've found some very bad ones (www.maplins.co.uk is terrible unless you know exactly what you want)
Paper catalogues can't really go wrong in that respect (unless the company are complete idiots).
It would be quite easy. Just have a list of names of objects on page 1, pictures on other pages, and no way of cross referencing. This doesn't happen because everyone knows what a good magazine looks like. For some reason, not everybody looks to find out what succesful websites are like.
I don't see anything interesting about this article.
Well, a summary would be:
"Despite the recent huge push for everyone to get on to the internet, there seems to be a similar move from the internet to phisical media"
I was quite interested by the observation that some internet companies are experimenting with paper catalogues (Its only a matter of time before Amazon comes up with a "technology" that automates printing a catalogue[1])
The obvious conclusion is both media will merge.
[1]Just in case Amazon DOES try to patent this, here's some prior art
I've got an idea for a system thats connected to a database that can print paper catlogues on demand. You could have it so that it can create a downloadable printable document for home printing, or be printed elsewhere and delivered
My god, there is somewhere other than the good-old-USA? Does the government know about this?
Of course the government knows about this. There are precisely 2 countries.
One of them is the US. This consists of the North American continent and various parts of Europe as well as Australasia, the moon and various other small countries.
The other country is called "Them", or possibly "Goodamn Commies". This consists of anywhere that isn't the US.
The US and Them relationship has always been difficult owing to irreconcilable diffrences. The main one being US is right, and Them's wrong
Surely it would be easier to get a non-US supercomputer.
Maybe most fast CPU's are made in countries that are friendly to the US and have similar controls and export rules, but surely these rules would be pointless if there is a single country without these rules that can make fast computers.
Alternatively just do some serious overclocking. Just how fast can you make an only just about legal CPU go?
Okay, I didn't know about pressing escape, so thanks for that.
While I agree that there are a lot of nice features, I still don't like VC++ that much. It just seems to be configurable in just about every way except the way I want to configure it.
Kdevelop seems to lack those features that make VC++ good and keeps all the ones I dislike. I'll still use it, because there isn't anything better around, and it does show promise. I just feel that there are better ways to design it than trying to clone VC.
I realise I have a lot of venom towards VC++. but I don't like it and I just keep feeling that it will drive all competitors away, leaving me with no choice.
Have you ever USED VC++ or just seen screenshots and assumed it was exactly like KDevelop
Yep. I've used VC++, Watcom, Borland Turbo C for DOS (I really liked that one) and I've even managed to shuffle the VC++ panels around so that they aren't quite as in the way.
Now, what I can't seem to do is have the floating windows floating at the bottom of the screen. They seem to jump into a panel again. Obviously there's a simple intuitive way to make the windows float down there rather than in the middle of the screen, that I'm too stupid to work out. I'm so stupid I can't even pop the editor window out. The output panel can't be made to appear as a tab of the workspace panel. As far as I know the online help can't appear in the output window. It isn't possible to have one panel showing files and anther showing classes.
Regardless of this, my complaint was aimed at Kdevelop which doen't let you do anything to the panels. It doesn't seem to like external editors either. Not only that, but it doesn't try to do anything new.
I've never said that vi or emacs does everything a coder needs. The reason for this is that I don't think they do.
Okay, I know this is still a fairly early version and this will be fixed. I also feel that this is the best Linux IDE around at the moment (There isn't really too much competition).
The question is why are the KDE developers just looking at a single IDE? All of them have features that are worthwhile. Can't we look at all of these as well? Can't we come up with some features that aren't in any of these? Why are we still playing catchup?
Online distribution is intrinsically international, so US law prevails here.
No, both companies are Australian so Australian law applies. This is because.......... Hang on a moment. I've just been trolled haven't I?
Sorry, but I hat the VC++ interface.
The editor's quite nice, but the workspace panel and the output panel take up far too much screen space leaving you with a tiny window to type in. This just seems pointless. You don't need the workspace panel and the output panel at the same time.
The last version of KDevelop was even worse in that you couldn't move these panels around. (Has this been changed yet?)
Borland managed a very nice looking IDE. I even quite liked the Watcom one. But why should people be looking at any PC IDE? Can't linux people innovate?
I WANT to see this stuff posted.
Yeah. Me too. I love this sort of stuff! But what happened to the Kernel 2.3.47 announcement? We haven't had a new kernel release article for over a week goddammit!
...as bad advertising.
Having read abvout what a nasty and insidious thing this company did, I went to their web site to see what they do. Before I hadn't heard of them. I'd be surprised if they didn't get a few more customers from this.
The long wordy abstract can be summarised thus
Its an internet referal system that lets people link to amazon as an associate Asociate sets up a web site about a part of amazon's catalogue (possibly with reviews or something). Amazon's website receives the referal link and the product ID from the link. If the customer purchases something then tha associate is payed commission. Amazon also has a shooping basket system.
When you look at it like this, it seems very obvious and trivial. Surely there's always been sites that offer reviews and link to a site that sells the things being reviewed.
Do you really think those tapes can be read today without tremendous expenditure of time and effort?
Well, I guess I should have quoted the whole line, but I was referring to the comment about transferring it from one format to a less obselete format. And the problem was that you would still need software compatibility. If the steel ribbon tapes WERE transferred to various forms of disk through the ages, then reading the bits wouldn't be hard. However if the data was compressed in a weird way, then no they couldn't be read easily without some form of software emulation.
Tama looks a lot more like Bagpuss
Doctor Who had K-9. Now is that really any different from Aibo and this Moggy? No contest. They don't even have a laser!
Or if you prefer to avoid the Simpsons reference look at the link. It goes to http://www.hardcoresex.com
(Then there the fact that the BBC website can probably handle more traffic than Slashdot so a mirror is pointless)
A perfectly readable copy of a digital document is useless if there is not software program available to translate it into human-readable form.
Is there an example of a computer system that doesn't exist anymore, and can't be emulated at a much greater speed than the origional using existing software? Even most arcade machines can be emulated these days
You can copyright software inthe UK. All Software in the UK is implicitly copyrighted when it is written. The copyright belongs to the creator. It also loses strength if the copyright is not defended.
What you can't do is patent software (strictly speaking. There are ways around this) A patent is totally different in that it protects inventions rather than a form of words, it has to be specifically applied for and does not need to be defended to remain valid.
This is quite likely. What I find interesting is that most EULA's try to restrict your use of the software. The GPL actually grants rights and uses copyright law as a protection for those who refuse it. To violate the GPL you first have to violate copyright laws.
Well, I've never seen Mein Kampf on a bookshelf, but my History teacher assured me that it was available if you ask for it. This is essentially the same thing as the library censors (they would have been removed if requested). Although I do agree that it shouldn't be up to the library to restrict people in an attempt to enforce what parents don't want their children to see.
people can be trusted to look at an issue and do the Right Thing.
The trouble is that this isn't THE right thing. Children can still go to a library and look at things that their parents consider unsuitable for them. This could be considered wrong. The decision was whether this is this more or less wrong than blanket censorship.
Most children, I think, will satisfy their initial curiosity and move on. Maybe I'm a hopeless optimist,
I think you're right. Difficult to convince a lot of parents of this though.