You know, you should register so I can figure out which other poster you are.
Regardless, replying to a post doesn't mean you take it seriously. Debating is one of the best things going. The art of words. And ripping a hole in people's rantings is extraordinarily fun.
Plus, for every guy that makes up crap like this to be funny, there are at least two others that are serious about it. Just look at some of the other brainless posts on this site. I have to admit, this woman is leaving slashdot not to return. It WAS my homepage before this ridiculous series of discussions. Congratulations guys, you've all made the world safe again for deluded male geeks - you've eliminated another woman.
Ranting does not an issue make. I'm willing to debate an intelligently and logically constructed arguement based on fact. Got any of those? Or did you waste them all on your y2k shelter?
Erna Schneider Hoover - She created the first computerized switching system for telephone call traffic---and earned one of the first software patents ever issued. Hoover was in the hospital after giving birth to one of her three daughters when she drew up the first sketches of her system. At the time, Bell Labs, being overwhelmed with the number of calls coming through, wanted to replace their hard-wired and mechanical switching equipment with a more complex and efficient system. Hoover's solution was to use a computer to monitor the frequency of incoming calls at different times, and to adjust the call acceptance rate accordingly. By putting a simple theory into practice through the complexities of computer programming, Hoover eliminated the danger of overload in processing calls. The principles of Hoover's switching system are still widely used today, as various communications companies struggle with ever increasing incoming traffic.
Harriet Russell Strong of Oakland (1844-1929). An entrepreneur and engineer, specializing in irrigation and water conservation, she won several patents for dams and water storage systems.
Chien-Shiung Wu (b. 1912) worked on the Manhattan Project during World War II. She created at least five inventions in experimental atomic physics, including devices for radiation-detection and radioactive-decay wavelength separation. Most notably, Wu designed the landmark experiments that allowed her colleagues Dao Li and Chen Ning Yang to win the Nobel Prize (1957) for proving that the Parity Principle does not hold universally.
Ariel Hollinshead of George Washington University (b. 1929). In the 1970s, she developed a unique type of vaccine for all four major types of lung cancer, and invented a low-frequency sound technique for isolating antigens from cell membranes.
Margaret K. Butler (b. 1924) was also a pioneer in computer hardware. Working at Argonne National Laboratories in the 1950s, she helped develop one of the world's first digital computers for science.
Sandra Kurtzig of Atherton, California (b. 1947) has invented monitoring and information-sharing software for businesses. The company she founded with $2000 in 1972, ASK Computer, in 1997 over $100 million in annual sales.
Yes, some men that go into computers are called geeks and faggots. Not all. Certainly not all. And especially not today. And even when they are, it's usually just in high school. Women on the other hand were almost constantly harassed and insulted. Not just in high school, but in college, and into the workplace. Even online. It is better now. I'm not trying to belittle the teasing that does happen to men, but look at the ratios.
Kidding or not, it doesn't make it any less fun.... Besides, ever listen to the Christian Coalition. Or that bigot who used to be so populat - Rush Limbaugh. Nothing this guy said wasn't said by them. (Except maybe Pauly Shore.)
By the way, that last post - the reply to the idiot - was me. Charmed, I'm sure.
No discrimmination? Please! You sound young and naive. I've been working very successfully in the computer industry for 12 years - coding in everything from Assembly to C++ and back again, managing projects, designing the &(*& out of stuff, and travelling around the world doing it. That doesn't count the 6 years on computers before that. Or the EE/CE double major I finished at the end of those 6 years.
When I first was on the internet - in its early, early days - it was a pretty cool place. No idiots, just true (not slashdot fake) techies that worked at universities. Then newsgroups and bulletin boards came into being. Suddenly using a female name got me harrassed, crudely propositioned in every way possible, attacked, vilified, verbally abused, and eventually stalked. I, like many other women, started using gender-neutral names. I got so sick of it, I stopped using the net for awhile unless I absolutely had to. I wouldn't even open email from people I didn't know. And this group of men were supposedly the more educated section of the population - not the masses we have today.
Additionally, in my years working, there have been many situations where clients have said they wouldn't meet with a woman. Heck, it just happened to a member of SYSTERS last week with a German client - he threatened to pull the client if a woman (one of two key programmers) was present in a meeting!
In years of engineering, I have had men laugh when I said I was an engineer. I still laugh at men's reactions! How naive and stupid! Male tech support people are always condescending. Male computer salesman are the worst!! And at tradeshows, it's hard to get the attention of company reps. And it's even harder to get them to follow up with me. They assume as a women - regardless of the VP title - that I'm not in a position to make a decision on anything technical.
Just tonight I was in a bar talking with 3 guys I'd just met. Two of them were talking about intruder detection software on cable modems. The third one turned to me and said "geek talk - I'll translate". Then he waived his hands around like it was radio static they were saying. What an idiot. I smiled sweetly and asked how he knew I wasn't a geek myself. Maybe it was the black leather jacket that led him astray. By the end of the evening, the three of them were asking me about home LAN installations. At least they recovered quickly.
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You know, you should register so I can figure out which other poster you are.
Regardless, replying to a post doesn't mean you take it seriously. Debating is one of the best things going. The art of words. And ripping a hole in people's rantings is extraordinarily fun.
Plus, for every guy that makes up crap like this to be funny, there are at least two others that are serious about it. Just look at some of the other brainless posts on this site. I have to admit, this woman is leaving slashdot not to return. It WAS my homepage before this ridiculous series of discussions. Congratulations guys, you've all made the world safe again for deluded male geeks - you've eliminated another woman.
Ranting does not an issue make. I'm willing to debate an intelligently and logically constructed arguement based on fact. Got any of those? Or did you waste them all on your y2k shelter?
I believe your stats are a bit old. I think that women are now at 40-45% of US internet users. I do know that women are rapidly catching up to men.
Sigh. It's too bad there's not actual logic in your comments. At least then it might be worth a discussion with you.
I know, I can't resist. One last one.
Erna Schneider Hoover - She created the first computerized switching system for telephone call traffic---and earned one of the first software patents ever issued. Hoover was in the hospital after giving birth to one of her three daughters when she drew up the first sketches of her system. At the time, Bell Labs, being overwhelmed with the number of calls coming through, wanted to replace their hard-wired and mechanical switching equipment with a more complex and efficient system. Hoover's solution was to use a computer to monitor the frequency of incoming calls at different times, and to adjust the call acceptance rate accordingly. By putting a simple theory into practice through the complexities of computer programming, Hoover eliminated the danger of overload in processing calls. The principles of Hoover's switching system are still widely used today, as various communications companies struggle with ever increasing incoming traffic.
Harriet Russell Strong of Oakland (1844-1929). An entrepreneur and engineer, specializing in irrigation and water conservation, she won several patents for dams and water storage systems.
Chien-Shiung Wu (b. 1912) worked on the Manhattan Project during World War II. She created at least five inventions in experimental atomic physics, including devices for radiation-detection and radioactive-decay wavelength separation. Most notably, Wu designed the landmark experiments that allowed her colleagues Dao Li and Chen Ning Yang to win the Nobel Prize (1957) for proving that the Parity Principle does not hold universally.
Ariel Hollinshead of George Washington University (b. 1929). In the 1970s, she developed a unique type of vaccine for all four major types of lung cancer, and invented a low-frequency sound technique for isolating antigens from cell membranes.
Margaret K. Butler (b. 1924) was also a pioneer in computer hardware. Working at Argonne National Laboratories in the 1950s, she helped develop one of the world's first digital computers for science.
Sandra Kurtzig of Atherton, California (b. 1947) has invented monitoring and information-sharing software for businesses. The company she founded with $2000 in 1972, ASK Computer, in 1997 over $100 million in annual sales.
CICSO was co-founded by a woman
Yes, some men that go into computers are called geeks and faggots. Not all. Certainly not all. And especially not today. And even when they are, it's usually just in high school. Women on the other hand were almost constantly harassed and insulted. Not just in high school, but in college, and into the workplace. Even online. It is better now. I'm not trying to belittle the teasing that does happen to men, but look at the ratios.
BTW, that last post was mine. My browser kept having convulsions and my login got lost.
Kidding or not, it doesn't make it any less fun.... Besides, ever listen to the Christian Coalition. Or that bigot who used to be so populat - Rush Limbaugh. Nothing this guy said wasn't said by them. (Except maybe Pauly Shore.)
By the way, that last post - the reply to the idiot - was me. Charmed, I'm sure.
No discrimmination? Please! You sound young and naive. I've been working very successfully in the computer industry for 12 years - coding in everything from Assembly to C++ and back again, managing projects, designing the &(*& out of stuff, and travelling around the world doing it. That doesn't count the 6 years on computers before that. Or the EE/CE double major I finished at the end of those 6 years.
When I first was on the internet - in its early, early days - it was a pretty cool place. No idiots, just true (not slashdot fake) techies that worked at universities. Then newsgroups and bulletin boards came into being. Suddenly using a female name got me harrassed, crudely propositioned in every way possible, attacked, vilified, verbally abused, and eventually stalked. I, like many other women, started using gender-neutral names. I got so sick of it, I stopped using the net for awhile unless I absolutely had to. I wouldn't even open email from people I didn't know. And this group of men were supposedly the more educated section of the population - not the masses we have today.
Additionally, in my years working, there have been many situations where clients have said they wouldn't meet with a woman. Heck, it just happened to a member of SYSTERS last week with a German client - he threatened to pull the client if a woman (one of two key programmers) was present in a meeting!
In years of engineering, I have had men laugh when I said I was an engineer. I still laugh at men's reactions! How naive and stupid! Male tech support people are always condescending. Male computer salesman are the worst!! And at tradeshows, it's hard to get the attention of company reps. And it's even harder to get them to follow up with me. They assume as a women - regardless of the VP title - that I'm not in a position to make a decision on anything technical.
Just tonight I was in a bar talking with 3 guys I'd just met. Two of them were talking about intruder detection software on cable modems. The third one turned to me and said "geek talk - I'll translate". Then he waived his hands around like it was radio static they were saying. What an idiot. I smiled sweetly and asked how he knew I wasn't a geek myself. Maybe it was the black leather jacket that led him astray. By the end of the evening, the three of them were asking me about home LAN installations. At least they recovered quickly.