Benchmarks aren't the reason I buy apple gear for home. They're also not the reason I run BSD on my servers, or Windows on my work desktop.
Besides, find a nice Xeon desktop from someone other than apple, compare features + performance + price and they're actually pretty damn close. Except the mac can run every OS the PC can, PLUS OS X. Plus it comes with garageband, which imho is worth a good couple of hundred bucks (if i could pay that to run it on PC) by itself.
Maybe I'm getting old (34 this year). But i've been doing the build my own PC thing since I was 11 and whilst it was fun to get the exact bits I wanted, you know what? I don't really care these days. There are millions of othter non-nerd people out there who don't care whats in the box either - its a tool to do a job.
IF the tool can't do the job you want to do, you change tools. Its exactly the same with computers. Getting hung up on the platform due to some religious zealotry is cute, but most people grow out of it once they move into the real world and have a job to do.
You don't see carpenters arguing with each other over whether or not hammers or screwdrivers are better. They're both different tools for different jobs.
Iphones have different codes on the mobile service. Without these codes in AU for example, you can't take a normal telstra internet enabled sim, place into an iphone and have it work without adding the iphone codes to it (free change, but it modifies your service somehow).
What if, the built-in version proxies requests and doesn't actually serve what you ask for? How do you know what's happening in the browser?
If it means that the end user experience of browsing the web on their phone (which is the point) is better then I don't give a fuck what its doing in the background (privacy issues aside for a second). Which brings up the next point: who's browser phones home to google more?
Pretty much, yes. Not necessarily implemented the same (Apple run Mach with BSD userland), but the BSD license is the ideal license for what they are trying to do. The BSD license is essentially "do what you want, just credit us". No legal bollocks to trip you up later. Linux vs BSD in terms of technical capabilities is close enough to make any comparison on that basis pretty much moot.
Well duh. That's the aim. The fact that you have 80% of your currency overseas indicates you guys are BROKE. The problem is getting worse the more you keep printing. Sooner or later people will stop taking us dollars for payment.
All that means is that people haven't been browsing slashdot with IE, because since the recent revamp, performance has been to be blunt, shit. IE8 on a quad core was unusable.
I'm browsing it now with IE9 and it is just fine. Snappy, in fact. Expect that statistic to change now that IE can actually perform the function of browsing slashdot....
Run IE with appropriate use of security zones on a a 64 bit platform in a seperate address space and it is about as secure in real world usage as any browser on Windows.
The fact that security zones are easily set up and pushed out via group policy is a win for the corporate desktop. The fact that you need to keep ie up to date whether you use it or not, as it is hooked into so many places in the OS means its going to be around whether you like it or not.
In fact, by installing a second browser on windows, whether its more secure than IE or not, in some ways you are increasing your exposure, as now there are two potential vectors for exploiting the machine via HTML/CSS/etc rather than one.
The "cheating" you mention was the result of dead code removal optimization.
However, i'm not fussed whether or not it is fastest or not. The mere fact that it is finally usable for semi-modern websites is a godsend. Like it or not, ie9 will end up on people's SOE as they roll out Win7 SP1 in the business world. Finally we can move the fuck on from IE6.
Sorry by "new hardware" i mean new models. Not new as in just shipped. New 2900 routers come with the monolithic IOS 15 for example, but i just got my hands on a couple of "new" 2811s (last mont) with the non-modular IOS 15. The last few I got (a few months back, also) shipped with IOS 12.blah
If they would just say they like the machine build quality, Unix like underpinnings and user interface better it would make it easier to listen to them.
This is exactly why i am buying Macs (I also have Windows and BSD boxes). I consider no desktop OS to be secure, so i don't browse dodgy shit without using a VM, and run a firewall in front of it.
ios 15 is mostly licensing related. on new hardware you get unified ios 15 and a single image to enter license keys into. no more different images for advanced ip services, etc.
The image resize thing is easy with Automator on os x. Just because Linux distributions haven't got it right yet, it doesn't mean GUI must be dumbed down.
I've been running various Linux distributions and FreeBSD since 1996 (in both an ISP, and multinational company). I've never "needed" to tweak use flags or compile stuff from source to get it optimized to be fast enough.
Tweaking stuff to not use LDAP, printing, etc may sound all well and good and save a couple of megs of disk - until you end up trying to do something that requires those packages.
If your online life revolves around recompiling gentoo so it can recompile gentoo faster (or similar), fine.
Those who need machines to do what they want of them, when they want it done are better off staying with binaries and selectively installing.
I started with slack 3.1 and look back fondly. I too have moved on to FreeBSD, however if you've got to use Linux then slack is probably the most "BSD-ish" of the various Linux distros.
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If you count nuking Japan in ww2 you already did. Also countless CIA sponsored wars which are in part the root cause of 9/11
Define: win
Benchmarks aren't the reason I buy apple gear for home. They're also not the reason I run BSD on my servers, or Windows on my work desktop.
Besides, find a nice Xeon desktop from someone other than apple, compare features + performance + price and they're actually pretty damn close. Except the mac can run every OS the PC can, PLUS OS X. Plus it comes with garageband, which imho is worth a good couple of hundred bucks (if i could pay that to run it on PC) by itself.
Maybe I'm getting old (34 this year). But i've been doing the build my own PC thing since I was 11 and whilst it was fun to get the exact bits I wanted, you know what? I don't really care these days. There are millions of othter non-nerd people out there who don't care whats in the box either - its a tool to do a job.
IF the tool can't do the job you want to do, you change tools. Its exactly the same with computers. Getting hung up on the platform due to some religious zealotry is cute, but most people grow out of it once they move into the real world and have a job to do.
You don't see carpenters arguing with each other over whether or not hammers or screwdrivers are better. They're both different tools for different jobs.
Iphones have different codes on the mobile service. Without these codes in AU for example, you can't take a normal telstra internet enabled sim, place into an iphone and have it work without adding the iphone codes to it (free change, but it modifies your service somehow).
If it means that the end user experience of browsing the web on their phone (which is the point) is better then I don't give a fuck what its doing in the background (privacy issues aside for a second). Which brings up the next point: who's browser phones home to google more?
You mean to say google DOESN'T have a shady past at this stage?
Pretty much, yes. Not necessarily implemented the same (Apple run Mach with BSD userland), but the BSD license is the ideal license for what they are trying to do. The BSD license is essentially "do what you want, just credit us". No legal bollocks to trip you up later. Linux vs BSD in terms of technical capabilities is close enough to make any comparison on that basis pretty much moot.
google vs linux, how can we spin this to not be negative to both????
Well duh. That's the aim. The fact that you have 80% of your currency overseas indicates you guys are BROKE. The problem is getting worse the more you keep printing. Sooner or later people will stop taking us dollars for payment.
All that means is that people haven't been browsing slashdot with IE, because since the recent revamp, performance has been to be blunt, shit. IE8 on a quad core was unusable.
I'm browsing it now with IE9 and it is just fine. Snappy, in fact. Expect that statistic to change now that IE can actually perform the function of browsing slashdot....
The fact that security zones are easily set up and pushed out via group policy is a win for the corporate desktop. The fact that you need to keep ie up to date whether you use it or not, as it is hooked into so many places in the OS means its going to be around whether you like it or not.
In fact, by installing a second browser on windows, whether its more secure than IE or not, in some ways you are increasing your exposure, as now there are two potential vectors for exploiting the machine via HTML/CSS/etc rather than one.
However, i'm not fussed whether or not it is fastest or not. The mere fact that it is finally usable for semi-modern websites is a godsend. Like it or not, ie9 will end up on people's SOE as they roll out Win7 SP1 in the business world. Finally we can move the fuck on from IE6.
And you expected a 9 year old OS that was already past general support to be supported for the duration of your new machine's life? Joke is on you...
Chrome doesn't support redhat 6.0 or Debian 1.2 either
Sorry by "new hardware" i mean new models. Not new as in just shipped. New 2900 routers come with the monolithic IOS 15 for example, but i just got my hands on a couple of "new" 2811s (last mont) with the non-modular IOS 15. The last few I got (a few months back, also) shipped with IOS 12.blah
This is exactly why i am buying Macs (I also have Windows and BSD boxes). I consider no desktop OS to be secure, so i don't browse dodgy shit without using a VM, and run a firewall in front of it.
ios 15 is mostly licensing related. on new hardware you get unified ios 15 and a single image to enter license keys into. no more different images for advanced ip services, etc.
This is exactly what they have done in xcode 4.
Do you know who uses Xcode for apple / ios development (i.e., who it is targeted at)?
XCode ships with OS X.
Software support expires. Get over it and move on. Linux 2.2 doesn't cut it these days either.
I think you severely under estimate how long it would take to scan / malware install over the entire ipv6 address space...
Firefox dhcp wpad is broken. It is also not network location aware. It is a major pain in the arse if you have proxy requirements.
The image resize thing is easy with Automator on os x. Just because Linux distributions haven't got it right yet, it doesn't mean GUI must be dumbed down.
I've been running various Linux distributions and FreeBSD since 1996 (in both an ISP, and multinational company). I've never "needed" to tweak use flags or compile stuff from source to get it optimized to be fast enough.
Tweaking stuff to not use LDAP, printing, etc may sound all well and good and save a couple of megs of disk - until you end up trying to do something that requires those packages.
If your online life revolves around recompiling gentoo so it can recompile gentoo faster (or similar), fine.
Those who need machines to do what they want of them, when they want it done are better off staying with binaries and selectively installing.
I started with slack 3.1 and look back fondly. I too have moved on to FreeBSD, however if you've got to use Linux then slack is probably the most "BSD-ish" of the various Linux distros.