Sounds like Spyglass should have checked the license they signed more thoroughly, it's not like that was the first time Microsoft had integrated software into Windows and included it for free.
It's not just marketing. Joe from accounts can build himself a quick and dirty access applicaiton to solve a problem in an afternoon. There's no serious Linux or OS X alternative that will enable him to do that. There's no standard, proven alternative to active directory anymore.
And unless you move to OS X, there's no guarantee that new hardware you buy will even work.
I've been a unix professional since 1995, and trying to run a business on it at the moment is very much a case of using a hammer because that's all you have. Doesn't mean everything you encounter is a nail.
You may not have noticed, but apple has zero enterprise software. This is kinda useful when you run a business. The OS itself is pretty irrelevant. It's the entire stack - Microsoft get this, for better or worse.
If this was truly all there was to it, a free alternative like Linux would have taken over the market about 15 years ago. It hasn't, and you want to know why? Because win32, for all its faults is a fairly stable (in terms of API) and full featured development platform.
Whilst I don't necessarily condone Microsoft's business practices, netscape killed themselves. By the time IE4 came around, it was simply better than Netscape Communicator from an end-user perspective. Pretty much just as fast, more stable, less bloated.
Netscape (and friends) totally lost the plot between about Navigator 2.0 and the time Phoenix came out.
Depends what you define as "use properly". If you take "use properly" to mean run all the components at some arbitrary clock rate / workload concurrently then sure. If you take "use properly" to mean "run OS X software faster than any other machine on the planet" then opinion may differ.
As a former amiga owner, Commodore also fucked up on the execution, not just the marketing. They were WAY TOO LATE with a 68030 or faster based amiga, and WAY TOO LATE and half-assed with AGA. Also WAY TOO LATE with a mass market model with a hard drive. I gave up my A500 and switched to a 486 with super VGA and a soundblaster in 1992. The A1200 was released in 1993 (?) and had a slower CPU, less impressive graphics and sound was a wash (PC had the grunt to do software mixing up to 32 channels easy). The A3000 and A4000 were decent machines but just WAY too expensive for what they were.
The reason there's no Windows 8 apps is because as a developer you have a choice: target win32 and hit: Windows XP, WIndows 7, Windows 8, and get 90% market penetration. Or target Windows 8 and get maybe 25% market penetration. Why the fuck would you do that???
Serious mode on: Powershell is vastly improved in 8 vs. 7. Hyper-V is improved. Task manager is better, Yes the start screen is still a pain in the arse. But there are valid under-the-hood reasons to go for 8 or 8.1.
More importantly, if you use DIY parts you will get bulletproof reliability (Just stay away from ASUS motherboards, and be careful with MSI ones). The Mac Pro will likely lead a VERY short life.
Having worked with PC hardware for 20 years now, I hereby call BULLSHIT on this statement. Total, utter bullshit. You might get lucky. You likely will not.
What's your point? IN real world testing, the thing smokes. In the real world, finding an app that maxes the CPU, both GPUs and all the peripherals AT THE SAME TIME is not likely to occur, hence the power management can deal with it.
Did exactly the same thing here. Have a Windows 8.1 haswell box for games - everything else is either FreeBSD/FreeNAS or OS X. Gave up waiting for Linux to be ready to actually use full time on the desktop, I figured that having waited since 1995 and still having most of the same problems, it was time to move on.
i7s aren't really in the same (or even similar) league as a Xeon. No ECC memory, for one, which is a big deal breaker if you're doing anything actually serious with the machine. Never mind that the xeons in the mac pro have 12, 25 or 30 megs of L3 cache.
Exactly. My billable rate is say, $70/hr. On WORK time. My own time outside of work? I get far less of that, so I value it at 2-3x the rate I get paid at work. I really do not want to be fucking around fixing broken hardware on my non-work time.
Also - i do know hardware. I've been building machines since 1989. I've been working in the industry since 1996. I don't want to be fucking around with my own machines on my own time. I buy apple gear for home. If it fucks up, it's not my problem - if it isn't easily fixed within 15 minutes of googling, it gets replaced.
Life is too short. I have ZERO interest in wasting my own personal time (i.e., outside of paid work) fixing broken shit.
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Sounds like Spyglass should have checked the license they signed more thoroughly, it's not like that was the first time Microsoft had integrated software into Windows and included it for free.
It's not just marketing. Joe from accounts can build himself a quick and dirty access applicaiton to solve a problem in an afternoon. There's no serious Linux or OS X alternative that will enable him to do that. There's no standard, proven alternative to active directory anymore.
And unless you move to OS X, there's no guarantee that new hardware you buy will even work.
I've been a unix professional since 1995, and trying to run a business on it at the moment is very much a case of using a hammer because that's all you have. Doesn't mean everything you encounter is a nail.
You may not have noticed, but apple has zero enterprise software. This is kinda useful when you run a business. The OS itself is pretty irrelevant. It's the entire stack - Microsoft get this, for better or worse.
If this was truly all there was to it, a free alternative like Linux would have taken over the market about 15 years ago. It hasn't, and you want to know why? Because win32, for all its faults is a fairly stable (in terms of API) and full featured development platform.
Whilst I don't necessarily condone Microsoft's business practices, netscape killed themselves. By the time IE4 came around, it was simply better than Netscape Communicator from an end-user perspective. Pretty much just as fast, more stable, less bloated.
Netscape (and friends) totally lost the plot between about Navigator 2.0 and the time Phoenix came out.
easy portability between OSes was reality back in the early 90s with openstep.
Depends what you define as "use properly". If you take "use properly" to mean run all the components at some arbitrary clock rate / workload concurrently then sure. If you take "use properly" to mean "run OS X software faster than any other machine on the planet" then opinion may differ.
Air. is plenty cold enough and the fans are fine. Vibrations in the case panels, etc. are the cause of most of the noise.
As a former amiga owner, Commodore also fucked up on the execution, not just the marketing. They were WAY TOO LATE with a 68030 or faster based amiga, and WAY TOO LATE and half-assed with AGA. Also WAY TOO LATE with a mass market model with a hard drive. I gave up my A500 and switched to a 486 with super VGA and a soundblaster in 1992. The A1200 was released in 1993 (?) and had a slower CPU, less impressive graphics and sound was a wash (PC had the grunt to do software mixing up to 32 channels easy). The A3000 and A4000 were decent machines but just WAY too expensive for what they were.
Never mind the TDP on those things.
Who gives a fuck? Now dual-GPU hardware is available to the market en-masse, they will either evolve or die.
The reason there's no Windows 8 apps is because as a developer you have a choice: target win32 and hit: Windows XP, WIndows 7, Windows 8, and get 90% market penetration. Or target Windows 8 and get maybe 25% market penetration. Why the fuck would you do that???
Serious mode on: Powershell is vastly improved in 8 vs. 7. Hyper-V is improved. Task manager is better, Yes the start screen is still a pain in the arse. But there are valid under-the-hood reasons to go for 8 or 8.1.
Guess what assumptions make out of you?
You realise that running 4x 256 GB SSDs in RAID0 (to keep up with the PCIe 1TB SSD) that you have quadrupled your expected failure rate, yes?
Having worked with PC hardware for 20 years now, I hereby call BULLSHIT on this statement. Total, utter bullshit. You might get lucky. You likely will not.
No, it's not. No ECC, a lot less cache.
Well if i have a desk and rather than fitting a full tower on it, i fill the space with mac pros, i can run xgrid to load balance between them.
What's your point? IN real world testing, the thing smokes. In the real world, finding an app that maxes the CPU, both GPUs and all the peripherals AT THE SAME TIME is not likely to occur, hence the power management can deal with it.
Because workstations haven't had enough power?
Did exactly the same thing here. Have a Windows 8.1 haswell box for games - everything else is either FreeBSD/FreeNAS or OS X. Gave up waiting for Linux to be ready to actually use full time on the desktop, I figured that having waited since 1995 and still having most of the same problems, it was time to move on.
i7s aren't really in the same (or even similar) league as a Xeon. No ECC memory, for one, which is a big deal breaker if you're doing anything actually serious with the machine. Never mind that the xeons in the mac pro have 12, 25 or 30 megs of L3 cache.
Just yesterday a friend of mine had her 2.5 year old iPhone battery replaced. Free of charge.
Exactly. My billable rate is say, $70/hr. On WORK time. My own time outside of work? I get far less of that, so I value it at 2-3x the rate I get paid at work. I really do not want to be fucking around fixing broken hardware on my non-work time.
Also - i do know hardware. I've been building machines since 1989. I've been working in the industry since 1996. I don't want to be fucking around with my own machines on my own time. I buy apple gear for home. If it fucks up, it's not my problem - if it isn't easily fixed within 15 minutes of googling, it gets replaced.
Life is too short. I have ZERO interest in wasting my own personal time (i.e., outside of paid work) fixing broken shit.