Only in America is changing a view with new data considered flip flopping. Bush and Cheney would , literally, go to one place and say one thing, and then 2 hours later be saying the exact opposite to a different group. Thtat's flip flopping, and the media never called them on it. They did this over and over again.
remind me which news source called it flip flopping? oh, right Fox.
Florida is why any race that falls withing the margin of error should be declared invalid and a stricter revote should happen. I wonder why those people that dump votes and intimidated vote counters were never brought to court?
Gore cores stance are fundamental different, so of course it would have been different. The biggest difference is that Cheney wouldn't have been determining what the president gets to see.
And if you think Obama is the same, then you are the medias bitch.
" It doesn't matter what the local comptroller or county commitioners view on abortion? global warming? evoloution? etc. " it does matter. Local representatives an impact the schools. The get infected and overrun by religious zealots trying to shove there beliefs down' everyone's throat. SO instead of learning science and critical thinking, kids get fed bullshit.
The impact local health efforts
So, yeah, there views are critical to whether or not they should be in office.
Because Obama is supposed to review every policy and action in every agency that had existed?
It is only in the spotlight because the pubs push it through their media channels. If Obama had lost, you never would ahve heard this muvch about the program. You notice that it gets brought up in discussion that aren't relevant to it? and do you notice how abruptly the subject changes is if someone mentions it started with Bush's approval? Search Google, hos comes up on top? Fox and The Blaze.
Now while the program is horrible, it it is still the person who pulled the trigger that is at fault for the killing. People seem to overlook the fact that those people are already armed. Why doesn't anyone question the fact that the agent was killed, and the killer left behind assault weapons at the seen? why?'
No, it's a good reminder to stop people from going to unreasonable extremes in discussions. It also reminds us tat emotional debates can sway opinions unreasonably.
It doesn't mean you can't compare NAZI and/or Hitler in the relevant discussions.
If you think Godwin's law is arbitrarily constraining actual debate, and the comparison with the NAZI are forbidden, then you are a fucking idiot.
Remember, the stupid you are, the less likely you are to believe you are ignorant.
You talked about the government for the people in the same post where you say that people should not be allowed to vote for someone simply because they held that office for an arbitrary amount of time? Do you listen to yourself?
You are the problem. You list a bunch of politician with no real evidence of wrong doing and assume they are wrong because you heard about it in the media.
You know making a stink out of nothing and then constantly feeding news source with information they know to be incorrect has been SOP for the pubs for about 15 years?
Naturopathy, not homeopathy... both of which are crap. Of course, the stage it was detected it's unlikely that actual treatments would have changed anything.
"pharmaceutical businesses is a complete disaster area in terms of cures-per-dolla" based on... what? it's been the most successful way to produce reasonably reliable drugs ever invented by man.
A) This is a discovery, not a development of a treatment; these are different things. B) So what? there marketing spends money; that i no way makes drug research cheap.
For the record; when a source has a history of twisting, lying, and making things up, they loose any credibility. I don't want to see them on the front page. By changing their ways, they can earn front page.
Don't get too concerned, it's not as clear as the people who like to quote the case make it seem.
He was growing more wheat then allowed..so he claimed that the 'overflow' was for person use. But what is over flow? He was selling wheat. If he grew the limit and fed his animals from that, it would be different. If he wasn't selling his wheat out of state, this would not have been an issue.
But he was a guy who wanted to sell his wheat on a regulated market, and not play by the rules of that market.
Please read the letters of the founding father is you can not grasp why the constitution is written in a way to allow changes. They did that on purpose.
Hawaii has an interstate free way because they went to the feds to build it. Had they built it themselves, it wouldn't be an interstate freeway. Being in interstate freeway is the only way that could be done without violating the constitution.
It's not an abuse of the Commerce Clause. It's a quack trying to twist what is going on so he can bilk people for millions of dollars.
You're statement about Health care is alarmist, ignorant and while technically correct, over looks several key factors.
But hey, It's what you pundits told you to think, so YEAH for millions of sick people not getting regular health care procedure, adn YEAH for higher hospital bills and insurance because those people need to use the ER.
Try reading it and making some actual pointed topics of discussion. I've read it, have you?
The internet is fulll of wrong information and lies regarding medical procedure. Expecting someone to wade through that is unreasonable. Expecting them to go to pubmed and wade through studies is unreasonable, and expecting them to even know what a good study lloks like is unreasonable.
We are in an age of information, not an age of only good information. People need to be an expert to determine which persons opinion is actual valid.
While the access to data has changes, people haven't.
2) This statement is counter to all the actual facts. Right now there are quacks lying about basic medicine. Since people do not know better, the assume it's true. thousands and thousand of them. There are people they won't vaccinate there children because a playboy centerfold who got famous for picking her nose online tells them they are bad; even when the experts point to mountains of data that show otherwise. CHILDREN ARE DYING because of this. In a world where that happens, how can you expect people to make a good and informed decisions based on internet searches? People still listen to demagogue unquestioningly; see Oprah
3) "which happens less now, and not just because of the FDA" False. that premise is not correct at all.
" versus people hurt by failure to approve treatments" a - it's not comparable. b - You have some weird view that good treatments aren't being approved. I'm not sure what evidence you actually base this on.
You're entire premise flies in the faces of every piece of available evidence in this matter. SO, shut the fuck up.
The line is easy: anything that can impact someone else.
This is about someone selling modern snake oil, and raing a fit. It's the same ol' thing quacks have been doing forever.
"This is joint pain. People in pain. Their lives made worse" and people take advantage of that. The lie, the cheat, and they will bilk you dry and you might get a placebo effect.And their victim will have no recourse. We see this over and over again with a variety of/alternative' health items. The when people see other people doing it, they assume it's legit, even when it is.
They are desperate and glomming on to anything. There is a reason we have an FDA. You might want to look into that.
" which is great for the insurance companies that do not have to cover such things," Except, you know, this would SAVE THEM MONEY.
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Only in America is changing a view with new data considered flip flopping. Bush and Cheney would , literally, go to one place and say one thing, and then 2 hours later be saying the exact opposite to a different group. Thtat's flip flopping, and the media never called them on it. They did this over and over again.
remind me which news source called it flip flopping? oh, right Fox.
Florida is why any race that falls withing the margin of error should be declared invalid and a stricter revote should happen. I wonder why those people that dump votes and intimidated vote counters were never brought to court?
Gore cores stance are fundamental different, so of course it would have been different.
The biggest difference is that Cheney wouldn't have been determining what the president gets to see.
And if you think Obama is the same, then you are the medias bitch.
" It doesn't matter what the local comptroller or county commitioners view on abortion? global warming? evoloution? etc. "
it does matter. Local representatives an impact the schools. The get infected and overrun by religious zealots trying to shove there beliefs down' everyone's throat. SO instead of learning science and critical thinking, kids get fed bullshit.
The impact local health efforts
So, yeah, there views are critical to whether or not they should be in office.
Because Obama is supposed to review every policy and action in every agency that had existed?
It is only in the spotlight because the pubs push it through their media channels. If Obama had lost, you never would ahve heard this muvch about the program. You notice that it gets brought up in discussion that aren't relevant to it? and do you notice how abruptly the subject changes is if someone mentions it started with Bush's approval?
Search Google, hos comes up on top? Fox and The Blaze.
Now while the program is horrible, it it is still the person who pulled the trigger that is at fault for the killing. People seem to overlook the fact that those people are already armed. Why doesn't anyone question the fact that the agent was killed, and the killer left behind assault weapons at the seen? why?'
No, it's a good reminder to stop people from going to unreasonable extremes in discussions. It also reminds us tat emotional debates can sway opinions unreasonably.
It doesn't mean you can't compare NAZI and/or Hitler in the relevant discussions.
If you think Godwin's law is arbitrarily constraining actual debate, and the comparison with the NAZI are forbidden, then you are a fucking idiot.
Remember, the stupid you are, the less likely you are to believe you are ignorant.
It was never about overthrowing an internal tyranny. It was about not being able to afford a standing army.
You talked about the government for the people in the same post where you say that people should not be allowed to vote for someone simply because they held that office for an arbitrary amount of time? Do you listen to yourself?
You are the problem. You list a bunch of politician with no real evidence of wrong doing and assume they are wrong because you heard about it in the media.
You know making a stink out of nothing and then constantly feeding news source with information they know to be incorrect has been SOP for the pubs for about 15 years?
Wow..your ignorance is monumental.. Try working in a real environment rather then 2 bit web sites.
"Switch DNS or whatever directs traffic to point at new site.
or whatever? Go learn something, then try to participate in the discussion.
so.. win-win!
Naturopathy, not homeopathy... both of which are crap. Of course, the stage it was detected it's unlikely that actual treatments would have changed anything.
"pharmaceutical businesses is a complete disaster area in terms of cures-per-dolla"
based on... what? it's been the most successful way to produce reasonably reliable drugs ever invented by man.
A) This is a discovery, not a development of a treatment; these are different things.
B) So what? there marketing spends money; that i no way makes drug research cheap.
He didn't say stem cells, did he? He said " biohazardous material "; which they are getting from across state lines.
The article is a twisted lie.
http://www.hpm.com/pdf/blog/GovernmentSupportforSummaryJudgmentMotion.pdf
It isn't. It's twisted and incorrect.
For the record; when a source has a history of twisting, lying, and making things up, they loose any credibility. I don't want to see them on the front page. By changing their ways, they can earn front page.
Don't get too concerned, it's not as clear as the people who like to quote the case make it seem.
He was growing more wheat then allowed..so he claimed that the 'overflow' was for person use. But what is over flow? He was selling wheat. If he grew the limit and fed his animals from that, it would be different. If he wasn't selling his wheat out of state, this would not have been an issue.
But he was a guy who wanted to sell his wheat on a regulated market, and not play by the rules of that market.
Please read the letters of the founding father is you can not grasp why the constitution is written in a way to allow changes. They did that on purpose.
Hawaii has an interstate free way because they went to the feds to build it. Had they built it themselves, it wouldn't be an interstate freeway. Being in interstate freeway is the only way that could be done without violating the constitution.
You're garden example sis not true at all.
Oxygen intended for medical treatment is regulated. Not all oxygen.
You don't want someone filling it with air and calling it oxygen.
But it isn't THEIR RIGHT to lie to you. This is NOT about you. IT's about someone offering bogus medical treatments with a nudge and a wink.
Actually, the FDA is taking on two issue regarding this quack. The quack reporting it conflates the issues to add to the FUD.
SOP for this evil assholes.
No. Transportation become easier is why everything applies to the Commerce Clause; as intended.
It's not an abuse of the Commerce Clause. It's a quack trying to twist what is going on so he can bilk people for millions of dollars.
You're statement about Health care is alarmist, ignorant and while technically correct, over looks several key factors.
But hey, It's what you pundits told you to think, so YEAH for millions of sick people not getting regular health care procedure, adn YEAH for higher hospital bills and insurance because those people need to use the ER.
Try reading it and making some actual pointed topics of discussion. I've read it, have you?
Bullshit.
The internet is fulll of wrong information and lies regarding medical procedure. Expecting someone to wade through that is unreasonable. Expecting them to go to pubmed and wade through studies is unreasonable, and expecting them to even know what a good study lloks like is unreasonable.
We are in an age of information, not an age of only good information.
People need to be an expert to determine which persons opinion is actual valid.
While the access to data has changes, people haven't.
2) This statement is counter to all the actual facts. Right now there are quacks lying about basic medicine. Since people do not know better, the assume it's true. thousands and thousand of them. There are people they won't vaccinate there children because a playboy centerfold who got famous for picking her nose online tells them they are bad; even when the experts point to mountains of data that show otherwise. CHILDREN ARE DYING because of this. In a world where that happens, how can you expect people to make a good and informed decisions based on internet searches? People still listen to demagogue unquestioningly; see Oprah
3) "which happens less now, and not just because of the FDA"
False. that premise is not correct at all.
" versus people hurt by failure to approve treatments"
a - it's not comparable.
b - You have some weird view that good treatments aren't being approved. I'm not sure what evidence you actually base this on.
You're entire premise flies in the faces of every piece of available evidence in this matter. SO, shut the fuck up.
The line is easy: anything that can impact someone else.
This is about someone selling modern snake oil, and raing a fit. It's the same ol' thing quacks have been doing forever.
"This is joint pain. People in pain. Their lives made worse" /alternative' health items.
and people take advantage of that. The lie, the cheat, and they will bilk you dry and you might get a placebo effect.And their victim will have no recourse. We see this over and over again with a variety of
The when people see other people doing it, they assume it's legit, even when it is.
They are desperate and glomming on to anything. There is a reason we have an FDA. You might want to look into that.
" which is great for the insurance companies that do not have to cover such things,"
Except, you know, this would SAVE THEM MONEY.