As some one who followed MS, was involved with MS and Google, I can honestly say, it is not. As a customer and vendor.
the Attitude and goals are different.
You should be modded troll because we don't have a -1 provable wrong. However, instead of actually listing comparison and examples on how they are the same, you will label me fan boy.
If you had bothered to look into this issue before spouting off like an ass, you would have noted it HAD BEEN SUBMITTED FOR PEER REVIEW.
The conference was out on the same day of publication. Something the is normal. the Media went ape shit over it, leaving an inexperienced researcher in a position to defend her work in the media, using common language and not scientific terms.
Something that is incredibly hard to do and takes experience. the media took this:
"that will impact the search for evidence of extraterrestrial life" and twisted far beyond it's intent. Which is "It looks like life can exist in arsenic; which would give us another vector to look for life.
Her peers saw the media issues, and instead of being professional and explain that the media has taken an inexperienced person results way out of context., the ostersized her.
She named it, Also, she was open about the controversy.
Please, you people are a complete fail when it comes to science discussion. People like you are the reason there is so much disconnect between actual science and the public.
I am so tired of people like you either just making shit up based on some headline or something they heard 'somewhere' and not bothering to actually read up. You don't deserve the benefits of a science.
All that is because religious people aren't content to keeping to themselves, they want to force everyone else to their antiquated black and white views. See: Big Bang, evolution, AGW.
"It's more profitable to treat the ailment than to cure it?" except that's false in most cases, and i other case would rely on the current CEO and board being so kind, that let either their competitors discover it, or let the next generation of board member/CEO reap the benefits.
Geron is about running out of money, nothing more.
If there therapy worked, the share price would have gone through the roof as stock holders abandon there current companies to grab part of the cure. The CEO would have gotten a big phat ass bonus, the scientist would be looking at the highest accolades, and they would own the tech.
we're always in peril? what do you do for a living, attach lasers to sharks that aren't sdeiatd in an underwater mine field...while fighting of Aquaman? Always in peril, sheesh.
""embryo" and "fetus" is an arbitrary time interval " no, it' not arbitrary. The fact that you don't understand that means you point of view is worthless.
It's based on Human embryogenesis. Look it up.
"For example, at week 5 the embyo has a heartbeat. At week 7 the head eyes develop. Week 9 brings toes, eyelids, and ears form. " So?
" in the eyes of the U.S. Supreme Court, a person when gestating within a woman." link.
"if they're people within the womb, they're still people outside the womb." courts do not equal science.
There people outside the womb. Fetus inside the womb. If you don't understand why that is, STFU you clueless clod.
AS to the the aprents point:
Those are cells left over from a completly different procedure. Cell that would otherwise be thrown away.
If you want to rail against artificial insemination, then fine. Until you do, you are a hypocrite.
"Without a doubt we are harvesting people to get embryonic stem cells. " sure, when looked at within your ignorance and logical fallacies. But in an actual scientific discuss void of you hyperbole and logical fallacies, it is not harvesting people and more the exfoliation is.
I was going to explain why there's a key difference, that I read your journal. So I'm not going to bother, because no amount of explaining will fix stupid.
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Yes, the MAY know it's the same computer.. maybe. they still don't know anything about YOU.
so we are making judgement on things that might happen?
You're fucking stupid.
Hey, you may commit a felony, better not give you a job.
and why is that a problem? vendors don't know anything about me.
What sucks about it? what? Have you even read it?
Not that I expect a reasonable discourse from someone that used 'unprivacy' in a sentence.
Yes, it looks like code from young talented people with little experiences. Exactly what you expect hiring people right out of college.
IO'm fucking tired of people like you making up shit as justification over your hate.
So your argument is "They are big, therefore they are bad."
Nice. Try again when you can actually have an argument.
Oh, it's not just Google. I hate irrational justification using logically fallacious reasononig in any discussion.
As some one who followed MS, was involved with MS and Google, I can honestly say, it is not. As a customer and vendor.
the Attitude and goals are different.
You should be modded troll because we don't have a -1 provable wrong.
However, instead of actually listing comparison and examples on how they are the same, you will label me fan boy.
Only having one policy will make it easier. It's not like it allows then to get something they can't already.
SO the point of a planetarium is to show off the of the planetarium mechanics?
So, what else did they have in your day? Did they have cars?
we would have no recourse.
a team is a group of people working together.
team doesn't mean sport.
If you had bothered to look into this issue before spouting off like an ass, you would have noted it HAD BEEN SUBMITTED FOR PEER REVIEW.
The conference was out on the same day of publication. Something the is normal. the Media went ape shit over it, leaving an inexperienced researcher in a position to defend her work in the media, using common language and not scientific terms.
Something that is incredibly hard to do and takes experience.
the media took this:
"that will impact the search for evidence of extraterrestrial life"
and twisted far beyond it's intent. Which is "It looks like life can exist in arsenic; which would give us another vector to look for life.
Her peers saw the media issues, and instead of being professional and explain that the media has taken an inexperienced person results way out of context., the ostersized her.
shame on them for that.
.
That is exactly why the it's important to get reproducible result in other labs. Falsifying others work is part of science.
This is a person with little experience, who may have made a mistake. Why people are trying to create a mountain out of this is anybodies guess.
She named it, Also, she was open about the controversy.
Please, you people are a complete fail when it comes to science discussion. People like you are the reason there is so much disconnect between actual science and the public.
I am so tired of people like you either just making shit up based on some headline or something they heard 'somewhere' and not bothering to actually read up.
You don't deserve the benefits of a science.
"The third problem: they refused to engage their critics. They simply stonewalled their peers.
that's an outright lie.
No, the media hyped it up. I listened to the researchers in several interviews. She was surprised at what the media did.
It was presented like any other finding.
All that is because religious people aren't content to keeping to themselves, they want to force everyone else to their antiquated black and white views.
See: Big Bang, evolution, AGW.
"It's more profitable to treat the ailment than to cure it?"
except that's false in most cases, and i other case would rely on the current CEO and board being so kind, that let either their competitors discover it, or let the next generation of board member/CEO reap the benefits.
Geron is about running out of money, nothing more.
If there therapy worked, the share price would have gone through the roof as stock holders abandon there current companies to grab part of the cure.
The CEO would have gotten a big phat ass bonus, the scientist would be looking at the highest accolades, and they would own the tech.
we're always in peril? what do you do for a living, attach lasers to sharks that aren't sdeiatd in an underwater mine field...while fighting of Aquaman?
Always in peril, sheesh.
It's irrelevent because we are talking about cells in a petri dish, not a 9 months fetus.
It's a extreme and irrelevant emotional appeal. Shame on you.
So? the fact is they are going to be thrown away. SO do we throw them away, or do we use them for science?
They are the byproduct of artificial insemination.
Plus, they aren't people, any more then your sperm is a person.
""embryo" and "fetus" is an arbitrary time interval "
no, it' not arbitrary. The fact that you don't understand that means you point of view is worthless.
It's based on Human embryogenesis. Look it up.
"For example, at week 5 the embyo has a heartbeat. At week 7 the head eyes develop. Week 9 brings toes, eyelids, and ears form. "
So?
" in the eyes of the U.S. Supreme Court, a person when gestating within a woman."
link.
"if they're people within the womb, they're still people outside the womb."
courts do not equal science.
There people outside the womb. Fetus inside the womb. If you don't understand why that is, STFU you clueless clod.
AS to the the aprents point:
Those are cells left over from a completly different procedure. Cell that would otherwise be thrown away.
If you want to rail against artificial insemination, then fine. Until you do, you are a hypocrite.
"Without a doubt we are harvesting people to get embryonic stem cells. "
sure, when looked at within your ignorance and logical fallacies. But in an actual scientific discuss void of you hyperbole and logical fallacies, it is not harvesting people and more the exfoliation is.
It's ok. I don't remember much about my eyes developing either. In my defense, I was young at the time.
"Given the cells are embryonic stem cells, I'm more concerned with the 10-20 year range."
wha? what do you think you will suddenly give birth to your own twin?
And then he will builds a cyborg suit and try to kill you?
I was going to explain why there's a key difference, that I read your journal. So I'm not going to bother, because no amount of explaining will fix stupid.
Communism wishes to roll back the clock.. idiot.
It's because they can expand services and not have to raise their overhead that much.