Are you trying to say that the government is a person
Nope, I'm saying that everyone here is really taking it to Gitmo, and arguing they have the right to do so, would, in turn call any sort of investigation or criticism of their pet government institutions an act of evil. I guarantee that everyone here, going on about the horrors of evil gitmo and the terrors of FISA warrants will be sitting here, should their people take control, telling everyone about how great their pet government institution is, and how anyone condemning it is some sort of a traitor.
I'll see your "bullshit rationalization" and raise you one "ridiculous sophistry." Really, if I hadn't seen you post relatively rational and well-reasoned posts here from time to time, I might mistake you for an honest to god crazy person.
It bothers me that everyone is trying to muzzle this guy. Everyone can go slam Gitmo, but Gitmo can't speak up? It just offends my sense of fairness. Then, when everyone is everyone is all worked about the horror, I instinctively have to take the other side. I like a good fight, and, as a whole, you need to have someone in there to stand at the edge of the cliff to remind the other lemmings that they are being stupid.
insinuated that all lefties are about "money and power." Tell me, who is the zealot?
People are modding me as troll on these posts because they are shallowly political. They get angry that I knock them off their perch with the brutal reminder that they are just thugs in their own power game and their own supposedly lofty ideals are no more than just pretext for whatever tyranny they would seek to impose. How dare I offend their saints!
So what. I don't care. I've been outnumbered 5 or 10 - 1 in a real fight and have gotten the shit beaten out of me sticking to my guns and my truths, more than once, and having a few pussies on slashdot mod me down as troll doesn't bother me in the slightest. So, you can take your teenage "everyone hates you attacks", and shove them up your snatch with a bag of broken glass and give the whole lot a good twist!
I'm not saying that Republicans are saints. And I freely admit that a good part of my cynicism comes from having been on these crusades to see them all end the same. I was big into the left wing, I was big in the right wing. I just remember back in the day when as a righties I believed that if we could just get the democrats out of power, the government would be better off. And you know what? It didn't happen. Bush did cut taxes and did reaffirm my right to own an assault rifle, but, then he discraced himself with all of this picking on fags. Like, who gives a shit if a bunch of fudge packers want to say "i do.". One by one, every right wing site started making the same damned excuses for their people and the whole thing just became a pissing match about who is in power and who is not.
And now, of course, here's the left wing in the same boat. At the end of two terms of the evil "bad" guy in the other party, the political party that tried to give us the CLIPPER chip and tried to have an FBI BACKDOOR INTO EVERY F--CKING ROUTER, is now arguing that they are "better" at civil liberties, and all you people are just eating up like dogs eating a bowl of beef stew. It's just pathetic. At the end of it, you'll be hog twisted and tied up by the very people you defend, in the name of world piece, global warming, or whatever other stupid cause you lefties wind up following onto.
You represent everything that is fundamentally wrong with American society. You're selfish, egotistical, ignorant, stupid, vapid, greedy, blind, and lazy. Why don't you move to somewhere else? Please? We don't want you here. America is supposed to be a nation of lofty ideals, educated and optimistic people, and, most importantly, free people. You stand for NONE of that. You're ruining our country and we don't want you here. Go back to whatever rock you crawled out of.
Here's a clue for you. The Democrats have held the House for a year now, and where's the legislation to repeal the USA PATRIOT Act? Where's that repeal? Where's the repeal of the homeland security acts? That's just undoing recent stuff. All we've gotten is what, some new laws that restrict my freedom to buy a good car, some ideas for laws to take more of my money, some laws that allow the government to spy on my carbon dioxide output...
If you want to convince me that you or anyone else believes in freedom, let's start with what federal agencies you would shut down and what laws you would appeal. But the fact of the matter is, you won't. It's just, you'd shut down the agencies you don't like and add new ones in their place, to get the government to oppress the people that you don't like.
Just because the government doesn't oppress you, doesn't mean its right, and that's the lesson you won't learn. Freedom isn't about, only putting other people's guys in jail. Freedom is about accepting that you might be in some way impinged upon, but, you are allowed to do the same to others as well, and if you are big enough to live fairly, then you won't need a bunch of pigs, ooops, I mean police, breathing down your back.
Yeah, cos the Iranian Navy really are going to sail up the channel, bombard Dover and Calais and send an army across Europe. Get a fuckin grip!
The Iranian Navy doesn't have to sail in the channel. All it has to do is patrol the middle east, and sink any oil tanker bound for Europe unless it pays a tax. Freedom of the seas has been something first the British Empire guaranteed unilaterally, and now the USA does, but that doesn't always have to be the case.
Besides, the Iranians are working on ballistic missiles that could certainly bombard Dover and Calais, if they so choose. Sure, it would be a bad move for them to hit the British, but, Germany doesn't have the bomb and would be well within range of an Iranian ICBM. Even the worst estimates have Iran getting both a warhead and a missile in around 10 years. Come on, its not that hard to make either.
Oh, like most people he probably has a brain, but also like most people he chooses not to use it.
Sorry, I just don't buy into whatever retarded religion you are into. It's all just a big power game, and nothing more, and you are too off in Star Trek land to see it. You are just being played like a fiddle, "oh, look at this and look at that, act now, donate before its too late", and then, when all of these people get what they want, and get their guy in, say, some big liberal like Obama, then, they'll be spying on whoever it is their enemies, monitoring their stuff, putting them in jail, and everything else, and you'll be gussying up the plate like some big dumbo cheering them on. This isn't about fundamental rights. It's about money and power.
It might have helped had you RTFA. There was no "monitoring of traffic." Things like Wikipedia attach the IP of the editor to edits. They looked at all the edits made by the IP assigned to Guantanamo.
That's monitoring. Just because the information was publicly available (and really, why is that?), doesn't change the nature of the activity.
I have seen no lies in TFA. Only the exposing of lies
Wikileaks asks people to steal information from their collegues, then, misrepresent that they did so to them. Thus, they want you to lie.
The only way for people to get names and addresses of people that I liked would be to do things illegal. Again, apples to oranges. You're comparing the gathering of freely available information and forming a conclusion based on it to wiretapping.
Not necessarily. You could own a site like wikipedia and grab their IP. Or you could look in the phone book or buy a social networking company that you use. Either way, there's plenty of legal ways to get it. In fact, the private sector routinely trades your "private" information as a commodity like so much shoes.
The only thing to conclude is that you are incapable of rational and logical thought.
No, you are just being a zealot, where, you are so caught up in your cause that you can't see that you are any different. Of course, if you admitted that you were, it would hardly be as lucrative....
*Ahem.* Simple distinction: We think that private citizens should have reasonable privacy from their government
So, now, there you have it. You want privacy for yourself, but not for someone else. Everything else is just a bullshit rationalization of a power play. You either believe that spying on someone else is wrong, or you don't. If its a power play, admit it. But don't be sitting there pretending that spying is a moral wrong when you engage in it yourself.
Really? What makes you think that? I think you are just casting aspersions to try to discredit what they are saying. Isn't it possible that these people have other motivations besides money? Most people don't become activists for the cash.
No, they don't do it for cash. You are right. They are too useless to add any real value, either service, or good, to the world, and they just hate people that do. So, they really are just looking to eake out some sort of a living, because what really drives these Sarumans is their hatred of inventive people. All they do is tear things down. They never build anything.
Yeah, there's a lot of money in pro bono work these days...
How many hits a day do these web sites get? 95% of these so called watchdog groups are a racket by bitter people that want to tear everyone else down because they jealously lack the imagination to start their own businesses or offer their own products. If they can earn a living doing it, then so much the better. These people aren't trying to get rich. They are trying to earn just enough of a living destroying someone else.
Lets see... He's an officer in the military which has shown itself willing to use deadly force and brutality around the world whenever ordered regardless of the legality.
I think the US Military is absolutely great. Your notion of legality is absurd. The United States is a sovereign nation and does not have to listen to anyone except for itself. You can pretend the UN might somehow decide what is legal and what is not, but all I see is an institution that is just a mouthpiece for anti-American propaganda.
But... I'll tell you what. You hate the US Military so much, then I'd be just as soon to see the USA withdraw from NATO. Let Europe deal with its own security for a change, and we'll see how high minded your morals are when you have to pay tribute to the Iranian navy.
I'm sorry I'm going to go Godwin on you, but here goes: HA! Guess you can say HITLER has GUTS for showing his face and telling his real name while endloesing der Juden. That some wackos have bended your/some minds into thinking this is right, doesnt make this officers honesty admirable.
My point is, what's really the truth about gitmo? Sure, you can believe that they are gassing arabs over there, but, the people that told you that are getting paid to do so.
The only way it could POSSIBLY qualify as hypocrisy was if he, too, was a military mass communications officer who was being paid to spread propaganda on the internet. Which I doubt
Oh stop with the lawyerly equivocating. The issue here is that there are a certain number of people that are opposed to the Global War On Terror. They argue that they do not like the invasion of privacy by government tracking people online, or monitoring their communications. They don't like the deception, and, they don't like the dishonestly.
All of which is fine.
However, these people are now tracking people on the internet and monitoring communications themselves. How else does Wikileaks find out who is posting what, unless, they are monitoring traffic of people? And, to get people to turn over goodies, they encourage them to lie in the workplace about what they are doing.
So, in order for these people to save privacy, they throw privacy away even more so. In order for these people to save honesty, they encourage people to lie. And now, you defend someone's right to publicize another person's contact information, but, if someone else ran a web site with names addresses of people that you liked, you would be up in arms.
There's only one thing to conclude: The vast majority of these people do not care about privacy or whether the USA goes too far in the war on terror. They are only interested in getting power for themselves. If they valued honesty and privacy, they would respect it. And they don't. As I have said all along, all of these people are just trying to cash in. moveon, wikileaks, fighttheevilbush, cowboynealsliberalfriends etc, are all just in it for the money. Hell, even slashdot posts this stuff to get us worked up enough to post more stuff and get more page impressions. It's not about anythings. Its just cashing in.
As for the pro-Kremlin bloggers, A recent report by Radio Free Europe states, "A new generation of pro-Kremlin bloggers, for example, is being cultivated to spread Putin's word online -- and to rapidly disrupt the activities of Russia's opponents, both real and imagined.
And um, haven't left wingers hailed those people in government that post supporting their point of view? This is just about left wing sites trying to raise money, nothing more.
Who says that wikileaks has "facts". They are an organization with international support, and so to some extent, act against the interests of the united states as a sovereign nation.
Don't you think it is ironic that organizations that argue about goverment power are using the same methods they say are wrong to try and argue their point? Here we are with all of these organizations having their IP tracked, and suddenly, if someone posts, its a matter of publicity.
That should tell you more than anything that the lion's share of these "freedom" organizations are really just doing it to cash in. Every retarded liberal getting angry about a post by some freedom organization, moved to scream about the horror of the abuses, only wishing they had more money to give to save the world, are just as dumb as a two year old whining for Thomas the Tank Engine or Ronald McDonald. Give me some money and here's your cheeseburger of freedom, you dopes. You are ver useful engines!
All of these "freedom" organizations turn quite orwellian themselves whenever someone disagrees with them. There's no salvation there. I mean, if you want to go find a bunch of Nazis, go onto any of these places like wikileaks or moveon or dailykos and say, "hey, I think Bush is great!". You'll find more group think, suppression of dissent, and threats of violence, as you would in any organization or institution that they try to do. God forbid that the guys at Gitmo go and write their own take on the situation. Of course, they are in the wrong to do anything, because, they are automatically evil.
And yeah, I think its funny that the gitmo guys wrote that Fidel Castro is a transexual. I might write in Wikipedia that Fidel Castro is also a vampire. Fricking Commy Bastard, and that's a fact.
I'm going to make my own browser standard...
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Seriously, at this point, having a single standard for web pages is going to be passe. All it will take is a good open source implementation for the browser, critical mass, and eventually, the big players will follow.
Yes there are differences. But the similarities are more significant
I read your link. At first, I thought it was so much more crackpot stuff, but now, I don't know. It's creepy enough to make one think. Every time I want to say, "it couldn't happen here", I remember that a lot of what helped the Holocaust along was that, people just didn't believe someone would do something like that.
And now I have to wonder, is there an element that wants to ethnically cleanse the entire USA for only white people? If its an "immigration emergency" might be a euphemism for killing all hispanic people?
The original parent poster was correct, +5. People implied that the Congress could change the constitution. Only the states can change the constitution. Congress can ask the states for an amendment. Its conceptually pretty simple. The Constitution is a Federal Goverment, but it is also a treaty among the states, enacted and amended by the consent of the states.
The whole promise of wikipedia is that computers allow us to accumulate an incredible amount of knowledge. There's no need to draw an artificial line and say "no, you can't have this, because, book form encyclopedias don't have it". If volunteers were willing, it ought to have proofs. And, also it would be good if it had experiments in the other sciences as well. It would certainly make discussions over GW and evolution more accessible to more people as well. How does one infer historic atmospheric chemistry? How does one understand the genetics of evolution? Right now, a lot of this stuff is locked up in scientific journals and these are invariably organized more by article. Wikipedia could, hypothetically, allow us to apply a taxonomy to all of human knowledge. Donations welcome.
How is it that those poor bastards living under communism didn't notice all this and put an end to it?! Well let me ask you this... how is it that the poor bastards living in the West don't also notice all this and raise hell? The pattern is the same, even the TERMS in use are the same. Strange that those digging in the future will ask the same questions of this civilization.
Well, I think there's a huge difference in degree. First off, in the soviet era, you couldn't own private property, couldn't travel (remember the Berlin wall?), couldn't form your own company, couldn't invest. Comparing Guantonimo to the Gulag system is a downright lie. Gitmo is a place where a relatively small number of muslims captured in other countries are sent. The Gulag, on the other had, was to used to kill an estimated up to 20-30 million people that represented the entire educated class of Russian society. Acamedicians, the russian army officer corp, the middle class, the kulaks, all just were all killed. I mean, you can sit here fat and happy and write about the USA and Bush and everything else. If you tried that crap in Soviet Russia, you would be shot, and most likely, your entirely family would be crushed down in some way.
Not at all. You do want the military people to think and reflect on their actions. You have fallen for the idea that people in the military kill because they want to or it is easy for them.
It speaks to the mission. The US military is not so much of a combat force as it is more of a policing force, particularly in Iraq. So you can't just turn them loose in a total rampage of destruction. However, in a general war, that is what you want.
There's a really interesting statistic that bears this out. Over the last 100 years one of the surprising things is that there's been an ongoing effort by the army to actually get soldiers to shoot people. During World War I, a rather large number of soldiers in the army never actually shot anyone. So, one of the things the Army has done over the years, is do things like change the shape of the targets from circles to people, engage in more exercizes. Even in World War II, there was still a big problem with it. Of course, if your soldiers aren't shooting, they are going to get shot at. Oddly, one thing that I've read is that the emergence of video games has utterly changed this statistic more so than anything else. Thanks to video games, soldiers are much more likely to actually shoot someone.
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Are you trying to say that the government is a person
Nope, I'm saying that everyone here is really taking it to Gitmo, and arguing they have the right to do so, would, in turn call any sort of investigation or criticism of their pet government institutions an act of evil. I guarantee that everyone here, going on about the horrors of evil gitmo and the terrors of FISA warrants will be sitting here, should their people take control, telling everyone about how great their pet government institution is, and how anyone condemning it is some sort of a traitor.
It's just a big joke, that's all.
I'll see your "bullshit rationalization" and raise you one "ridiculous sophistry." Really, if I hadn't seen you post relatively rational and well-reasoned posts here from time to time, I might mistake you for an honest to god crazy person.
It bothers me that everyone is trying to muzzle this guy. Everyone can go slam Gitmo, but Gitmo can't speak up? It just offends my sense of fairness. Then, when everyone is everyone is all worked about the horror, I instinctively have to take the other side. I like a good fight, and, as a whole, you need to have someone in there to stand at the edge of the cliff to remind the other lemmings that they are being stupid.
The difference is that the officers were doing a job paid for by you.
So, that's make them your slaves then? The officers are highered to keep a bunch of muzzies in jail, and they are.
insinuated that all lefties are about "money and power." Tell me, who is the zealot?
People are modding me as troll on these posts because they are shallowly political. They get angry that I knock them off their perch with the brutal reminder that they are just thugs in their own power game and their own supposedly lofty ideals are no more than just pretext for whatever tyranny they would seek to impose. How dare I offend their saints!
So what. I don't care. I've been outnumbered 5 or 10 - 1 in a real fight and have gotten the shit beaten out of me sticking to my guns and my truths, more than once, and having a few pussies on slashdot mod me down as troll doesn't bother me in the slightest. So, you can take your teenage "everyone hates you attacks", and shove them up your snatch with a bag of broken glass and give the whole lot a good twist!
I'm not saying that Republicans are saints. And I freely admit that a good part of my cynicism comes from having been on these crusades to see them all end the same. I was big into the left wing, I was big in the right wing. I just remember back in the day when as a righties I believed that if we could just get the democrats out of power, the government would be better off. And you know what? It didn't happen. Bush did cut taxes and did reaffirm my right to own an assault rifle, but, then he discraced himself with all of this picking on fags. Like, who gives a shit if a bunch of fudge packers want to say "i do.". One by one, every right wing site started making the same damned excuses for their people and the whole thing just became a pissing match about who is in power and who is not.
And now, of course, here's the left wing in the same boat. At the end of two terms of the evil "bad" guy in the other party, the political party that tried to give us the CLIPPER chip and tried to have an FBI BACKDOOR INTO EVERY F--CKING ROUTER, is now arguing that they are "better" at civil liberties, and all you people are just eating up like dogs eating a bowl of beef stew. It's just pathetic. At the end of it, you'll be hog twisted and tied up by the very people you defend, in the name of world piece, global warming, or whatever other stupid cause you lefties wind up following onto.
You represent everything that is fundamentally wrong with American society. You're selfish, egotistical, ignorant, stupid, vapid, greedy, blind, and lazy. Why don't you move to somewhere else? Please? We don't want you here. America is supposed to be a nation of lofty ideals, educated and optimistic people, and, most importantly, free people. You stand for NONE of that. You're ruining our country and we don't want you here. Go back to whatever rock you crawled out of.
Here's a clue for you. The Democrats have held the House for a year now, and where's the legislation to repeal the USA PATRIOT Act? Where's that repeal? Where's the repeal of the homeland security acts? That's just undoing recent stuff. All we've gotten is what, some new laws that restrict my freedom to buy a good car, some ideas for laws to take more of my money, some laws that allow the government to spy on my carbon dioxide output...
If you want to convince me that you or anyone else believes in freedom, let's start with what federal agencies you would shut down and what laws you would appeal. But the fact of the matter is, you won't. It's just, you'd shut down the agencies you don't like and add new ones in their place, to get the government to oppress the people that you don't like.
Just because the government doesn't oppress you, doesn't mean its right, and that's the lesson you won't learn. Freedom isn't about, only putting other people's guys in jail. Freedom is about accepting that you might be in some way impinged upon, but, you are allowed to do the same to others as well, and if you are big enough to live fairly, then you won't need a bunch of pigs, ooops, I mean police, breathing down your back.
For christ sakes, Democrats are talking about ci
Yeah, cos the Iranian Navy really are going to sail up the channel, bombard Dover and Calais and send an army across Europe. Get a fuckin grip!
The Iranian Navy doesn't have to sail in the channel. All it has to do is patrol the middle east, and sink any oil tanker bound for Europe unless it pays a tax. Freedom of the seas has been something first the British Empire guaranteed unilaterally, and now the USA does, but that doesn't always have to be the case.
Besides, the Iranians are working on ballistic missiles that could certainly bombard Dover and Calais, if they so choose. Sure, it would be a bad move for them to hit the British, but, Germany doesn't have the bomb and would be well within range of an Iranian ICBM. Even the worst estimates have Iran getting both a warhead and a missile in around 10 years. Come on, its not that hard to make either.
Oh, like most people he probably has a brain, but also like most people he chooses not to use it.
Sorry, I just don't buy into whatever retarded religion you are into. It's all just a big power game, and nothing more, and you are too off in Star Trek land to see it. You are just being played like a fiddle, "oh, look at this and look at that, act now, donate before its too late", and then, when all of these people get what they want, and get their guy in, say, some big liberal like Obama, then, they'll be spying on whoever it is their enemies, monitoring their stuff, putting them in jail, and everything else, and you'll be gussying up the plate like some big dumbo cheering them on. This isn't about fundamental rights. It's about money and power.
It's so predictable, its almost boring.
It might have helped had you RTFA. There was no "monitoring of traffic." Things like Wikipedia attach the IP of the editor to edits. They looked at all the edits made by the IP assigned to Guantanamo.
That's monitoring. Just because the information was publicly available (and really, why is that?), doesn't change the nature of the activity.
I have seen no lies in TFA. Only the exposing of lies
Wikileaks asks people to steal information from their collegues, then, misrepresent that they did so to them. Thus, they want you to lie.
The only way for people to get names and addresses of people that I liked would be to do things illegal. Again, apples to oranges. You're comparing the gathering of freely available information and forming a conclusion based on it to wiretapping.
Not necessarily. You could own a site like wikipedia and grab their IP. Or you could look in the phone book or buy a social networking company that you use. Either way, there's plenty of legal ways to get it. In fact, the private sector routinely trades your "private" information as a commodity like so much shoes.
The only thing to conclude is that you are incapable of rational and logical thought.
No, you are just being a zealot, where, you are so caught up in your cause that you can't see that you are any different. Of course, if you admitted that you were, it would hardly be as lucrative....
*Ahem.* Simple distinction: We think that private citizens should have reasonable privacy from their government
So, now, there you have it. You want privacy for yourself, but not for someone else. Everything else is just a bullshit rationalization of a power play. You either believe that spying on someone else is wrong, or you don't. If its a power play, admit it. But don't be sitting there pretending that spying is a moral wrong when you engage in it yourself.
Really? What makes you think that? I think you are just casting aspersions to try to discredit what they are saying. Isn't it possible that these people have other motivations besides money? Most people don't become activists for the cash.
No, they don't do it for cash. You are right. They are too useless to add any real value, either service, or good, to the world, and they just hate people that do. So, they really are just looking to eake out some sort of a living, because what really drives these Sarumans is their hatred of inventive people. All they do is tear things down. They never build anything.
Yeah, there's a lot of money in pro bono work these days...
How many hits a day do these web sites get? 95% of these so called watchdog groups are a racket by bitter people that want to tear everyone else down because they jealously lack the imagination to start their own businesses or offer their own products. If they can earn a living doing it, then so much the better. These people aren't trying to get rich. They are trying to earn just enough of a living destroying someone else.
Lets see... He's an officer in the military which has shown itself willing to use deadly force and brutality around the world whenever ordered regardless of the legality.
I think the US Military is absolutely great. Your notion of legality is absurd. The United States is a sovereign nation and does not have to listen to anyone except for itself. You can pretend the UN might somehow decide what is legal and what is not, but all I see is an institution that is just a mouthpiece for anti-American propaganda.
But... I'll tell you what. You hate the US Military so much, then I'd be just as soon to see the USA withdraw from NATO. Let Europe deal with its own security for a change, and we'll see how high minded your morals are when you have to pay tribute to the Iranian navy.
I'm sorry I'm going to go Godwin on you, but here goes: HA! Guess you can say HITLER has GUTS for showing his face and telling his real name while endloesing der Juden. That some wackos have bended your/some minds into thinking this is right, doesnt make this officers honesty admirable.
My point is, what's really the truth about gitmo? Sure, you can believe that they are gassing arabs over there, but, the people that told you that are getting paid to do so.
The only way it could POSSIBLY qualify as hypocrisy was if he, too, was a military mass communications officer who was being paid to spread propaganda on the internet. Which I doubt
Oh stop with the lawyerly equivocating. The issue here is that there are a certain number of people that are opposed to the Global War On Terror. They argue that they do not like the invasion of privacy by government tracking people online, or monitoring their communications. They don't like the deception, and, they don't like the dishonestly.
All of which is fine.
However, these people are now tracking people on the internet and monitoring communications themselves. How else does Wikileaks find out who is posting what, unless, they are monitoring traffic of people? And, to get people to turn over goodies, they encourage them to lie in the workplace about what they are doing.
So, in order for these people to save privacy, they throw privacy away even more so. In order for these people to save honesty, they encourage people to lie. And now, you defend someone's right to publicize another person's contact information, but, if someone else ran a web site with names addresses of people that you liked, you would be up in arms.
There's only one thing to conclude: The vast majority of these people do not care about privacy or whether the USA goes too far in the war on terror. They are only interested in getting power for themselves. If they valued honesty and privacy, they would respect it. And they don't. As I have said all along, all of these people are just trying to cash in. moveon, wikileaks, fighttheevilbush, cowboynealsliberalfriends etc, are all just in it for the money. Hell, even slashdot posts this stuff to get us worked up enough to post more stuff and get more page impressions. It's not about anythings. Its just cashing in.
As for the pro-Kremlin bloggers, A recent report by Radio Free Europe states, "A new generation of pro-Kremlin bloggers, for example, is being cultivated to spread Putin's word online -- and to rapidly disrupt the activities of Russia's opponents, both real and imagined.
And um, haven't left wingers hailed those people in government that post supporting their point of view? This is just about left wing sites trying to raise money, nothing more.
Wouldn't want that to get misplaced
all while of course, your email is hidden. What a hypocrite you are! Seems to me, that this officer has more guts than you do.
Uh, it was intentional posting of misinformation.
Unless someone can find a citation for Castro's admission that he is a transsexual.
It was a joke, you dope. Christ, you lefties are a bunch of heavy handed high falooting thugs.
Who says that wikileaks has "facts". They are an organization with international support, and so to some extent, act against the interests of the united states as a sovereign nation.
Don't you think it is ironic that organizations that argue about goverment power are using the same methods they say are wrong to try and argue their point? Here we are with all of these organizations having their IP tracked, and suddenly, if someone posts, its a matter of publicity.
That should tell you more than anything that the lion's share of these "freedom" organizations are really just doing it to cash in. Every retarded liberal getting angry about a post by some freedom organization, moved to scream about the horror of the abuses, only wishing they had more money to give to save the world, are just as dumb as a two year old whining for Thomas the Tank Engine or Ronald McDonald. Give me some money and here's your cheeseburger of freedom, you dopes. You are ver useful engines!
All of these "freedom" organizations turn quite orwellian themselves whenever someone disagrees with them. There's no salvation there. I mean, if you want to go find a bunch of Nazis, go onto any of these places like wikileaks or moveon or dailykos and say, "hey, I think Bush is great!". You'll find more group think, suppression of dissent, and threats of violence, as you would in any organization or institution that they try to do. God forbid that the guys at Gitmo go and write their own take on the situation. Of course, they are in the wrong to do anything, because, they are automatically evil.
And yeah, I think its funny that the gitmo guys wrote that Fidel Castro is a transexual. I might write in Wikipedia that Fidel Castro is also a vampire. Fricking Commy Bastard, and that's a fact.
Seriously, at this point, having a single standard for web pages is going to be passe. All it will take is a good open source implementation for the browser, critical mass, and eventually, the big players will follow.
http://libertyforlife.com/jail-police/us_concentration_camps.htm
Yes there are differences. But the similarities are more significant
I read your link. At first, I thought it was so much more crackpot stuff, but now, I don't know. It's creepy enough to make one think. Every time I want to say, "it couldn't happen here", I remember that a lot of what helped the Holocaust along was that, people just didn't believe someone would do something like that.
And now I have to wonder, is there an element that wants to ethnically cleanse the entire USA for only white people? If its an "immigration emergency" might be a euphemism for killing all hispanic people?
The original parent poster was correct, +5. People implied that the Congress could change the constitution. Only the states can change the constitution. Congress can ask the states for an amendment. Its conceptually pretty simple. The Constitution is a Federal Goverment, but it is also a treaty among the states, enacted and amended by the consent of the states.
And, I would like my french fries - SUPER SIZED!
The whole promise of wikipedia is that computers allow us to accumulate an incredible amount of knowledge. There's no need to draw an artificial line and say "no, you can't have this, because, book form encyclopedias don't have it". If volunteers were willing, it ought to have proofs. And, also it would be good if it had experiments in the other sciences as well. It would certainly make discussions over GW and evolution more accessible to more people as well. How does one infer historic atmospheric chemistry? How does one understand the genetics of evolution? Right now, a lot of this stuff is locked up in scientific journals and these are invariably organized more by article. Wikipedia could, hypothetically, allow us to apply a taxonomy to all of human knowledge. Donations welcome.
How is it that those poor bastards living under communism didn't notice all this and put an end to it?! Well let me ask you this... how is it that the poor bastards living in the West don't also notice all this and raise hell? The pattern is the same, even the TERMS in use are the same. Strange that those digging in the future will ask the same questions of this civilization.
Well, I think there's a huge difference in degree. First off, in the soviet era, you couldn't own private property, couldn't travel (remember the Berlin wall?), couldn't form your own company, couldn't invest. Comparing Guantonimo to the Gulag system is a downright lie. Gitmo is a place where a relatively small number of muslims captured in other countries are sent. The Gulag, on the other had, was to used to kill an estimated up to 20-30 million people that represented the entire educated class of Russian society. Acamedicians, the russian army officer corp, the middle class, the kulaks, all just were all killed. I mean, you can sit here fat and happy and write about the USA and Bush and everything else. If you tried that crap in Soviet Russia, you would be shot, and most likely, your entirely family would be crushed down in some way.
Not at all. You do want the military people to think and reflect on their actions. You have fallen for the idea that people in the military kill because they want to or it is easy for them.
It speaks to the mission. The US military is not so much of a combat force as it is more of a policing force, particularly in Iraq. So you can't just turn them loose in a total rampage of destruction. However, in a general war, that is what you want.
There's a really interesting statistic that bears this out. Over the last 100 years one of the surprising things is that there's been an ongoing effort by the army to actually get soldiers to shoot people. During World War I, a rather large number of soldiers in the army never actually shot anyone. So, one of the things the Army has done over the years, is do things like change the shape of the targets from circles to people, engage in more exercizes. Even in World War II, there was still a big problem with it. Of course, if your soldiers aren't shooting, they are going to get shot at. Oddly, one thing that I've read is that the emergence of video games has utterly changed this statistic more so than anything else. Thanks to video games, soldiers are much more likely to actually shoot someone.