Why are you spreading this false meme? Hackers don't lack social skills. If hacker can socially engineer people via the internet or in person how is that lacking social skills?
Those are not social skills. They are sociopath skills. Which probably explains the misogyny in the rest of your post.
While I distance myself from the original claim, I do claim that they are indeed not sociopath skills but social skills - unless taken to a whole other level... See, socially engineering people, playing social games, etc. is in fact large part of how most average people socialize - and people who don't take part on these childish games are often categorized anti-social (in this case because they take the extreme opposite from sociopaths ways).
I acknowledge that these games are somewhat important to our species and cultures, but I can't help but despise them... Still I would say that I'm pretty good at most social skills (a bit awkward on some maybe - partly because of being bullied through school I believe) - but not one of those very good at "social engineering" at all...
Anyway, I'm a hacker, I'm not poor nor excellent on social skills, nor am I a sociopath - and I don't think generalizing hackers in any of these ways is really useful.
For me PKD is right up to level of Asimov and Clarke, but it's kinda hard to compare - they are so very very different in their style... PKD for me is more about abstract sci-fi madness, and deal more with psyche than with tech and science, so they are kinda different animals...
Good point, even if we're actually talking about whole DE's, not plain WM's.... but then even the WM's today, namely those these DE's default to using, are bloated in both binary code and the data they store.
I mean, even if the DE is bloated, how much more space can the WM need than, say, Fluxbox - or, hell, even Enlightenment (DR16)?
Personally I use Ion3 and with all the settings and Lua extensions it's tiny... a WM don't need to eat 100's, not even 10's of megabytes...
I think the number of such idiots have and will just grow because of computers becoming common tools everyone now has - best just to ignore them and hope they go away when they see you don't care.
I prefer tiling&tabbing window manager, and a possibility for floating mode workplace is a plus, so ion3 (which has pwm3 for that floating mode thingy built-in) - with tiling I understood how unnecessary iconifying is (and a friend blamed my system stupid because "how on earth can I minimize this window?" - I just replied "why on earth would you need to!?).
Debian can be installed on old systems that may not even have a DVD drive - it has to fit on CD (and why shouldn't it? There are extra CD's and DVD versions for those who need to have more stuff to install right from the disc - though what's the point unless you're internets are slow?)
It does have an automatic default install - and it installs Gnome by default. Perhaps only when installing from LiveCD/DVD, but it's not just for live session. I know because my last debian install was the default one (previously I had installed only the bare minimal base system and apt-getted everything after that, but going that way is too time taking for me).
In Finland we have free/cheap (you get billed, but if you are unemployed the social security system covers your public health care costs and your medicine) socialized health care system - and we have a well doing private sector as well, with healthy competition. It's a very healthy system.
Yanks should try and have a pizza in Italy - and no, 4rth generation Italian-American stereotype doesn't make it an Italian pizza.
But I don't know if you people would actually even like it - I kinda have an image of Americans loving their pizzas which would be shunned by Italians and maybe Yanks would not even recognize the Italian ones as good pizzas... but then, this is just my imagination... And I'm Finnish, but I've been to Italy and my papa was also big on Italian cuisine so I've had quite Italian pizzas at age of 3 at rent apartment in Finland...
You go ask someone living in one of the "nordic welfare states" - someone like, umm, me... ah yes, I live in Finland - and we have socialized health care. Watching the documentary film Sicko really makes me sick, in a way that even our health care system can't help:(
No, it hasn't. Ever been to Cuba, where you get an aspirin for free, for everything because that's all they have?
I call bullshit...
A better comparison is the health care systems of say, Japan, Canada or Israel... or almost any other developed country for that matter.
...there is a point to comparison with Cuba here - and it's something you dislike so much you had to resort into lying: you could never accept that a socialist country has done something better than you do in USA.
Anyway, I know the man is a populist, but still the documentary film Sicko is quite worth watching - it has a part where they get "aspirin" from Cuba too;)
What you have to realise is that the Nike options (like -f and --force in most commands) means you sign in blood that you know what the command is doing, have verified it three times, and that you know that any blame rests squarely on your shoulders alone. If you aren't willing to sign that, use -i instead.
Lots of people have religious objections, and they will argue that they take their moral code from a higher power, it's not something they are allowed to change. I don't agree with it, it doesn't make any sense to me (delegating your morals to an all-powerful being is basically a version of might makes right, which goes against my moral code),
How excellent wording with the "might makes right" comparison - I have to remember that and try to come with a good Finnish translation to use;)
and I haven't observed them to be particularly consistent in following rules from their reference text (often the reference text isn't consistent with itself).
I've observed this many times too - it's sad.
That said, I'm not going to interfere with their beliefs unless these beliefs are being used to directly harm others. So, if your religious beliefs prevent you from accepting gays, and you want to stay away from them, by all means, do so. I bet they don't want you around either. However, you don't get to make laws that prevent consenting adults from living their lives however they choose.
Here in Finland regular stores sell lye products strong enough to be practically just as dangerous as 100% lye with no other chemicals, coloring, etc. but you can't legally sell plain lye in there - only products like Kodin Putkimies ("Home Plummer" in english - just like your Drano), with extra ingredients that help to clear your drains, yet not as much as having 100% lye, and yet it's not even safer. But it costs more. You can buy it from pharmacy though, but while back in early 2000's you could go into any pharmacy and get it, but there are weird restrictions and a widespread perception among pharmacists that there is something shady about selling & buying it and you now days have to search for a pharmacy that sells it - no pharmacist has ever given me any meaningful answer to what is this anti-lye perception nobody can explain, but there also are new restrictions on the sale of pure lye: there is a sheet you have to sign with your name, social security ID and signature, and every purchase of lye from pharmacy gets now registered in database. Also sometimes the pharmacist seem like suspicious of the buyer (though have not gotten an answer for what exactly are they so suspicious about) and they way ask you to state what do you need it for - once I was asked just that, with tone that felt like he was thinking that I'm some evil criminal with nefarious purposes for lye, and when I said that it's for opening drains - the brand they usually have in pharmacies even has instructions on using it for just that printed on the bottle - I said it with tone sounding likely as if I was explaining something self evident to a small kid, I got turned down by a long silence and suspicious look on his face and finally response: "Well, I don't really understand why you could not buy a regular drain opener product from market like other people", and they did not sell it to me - and he genuinely seemed to believe that the only reason for wanting that product could only be something illegal, even though, again, no explanation of *what* that illegal need could be.
I think this is way more fscked up than what you describe;) So to stay positive, remember that it could be worse but it doesn't have to go that way.
The question is really about how to balance developers needs and the consumers. I would have no objection if the apps were locked to the IMIE number or some other HW number provided. But obviously this would need to be balanced with privacy considerations.
I agree with everything you said, expect on this: I could never accept having software I have paid money for to be locked on specific device - if I buy it I expect that I can transfer it from my old device to new one. Also, in my country, Finland it is accepted and legal to have software product bought for personal use installed on more than one computer/device. Software is considered, in general not legally same as physical products (which is sometimes used as claim to justify that you should not be allowed to "multiply" a product as you bought it as one "item") nor can software normally sold with claim that you are not buying the product but a license to use the product - which is used to claim that you don't own the product and thus are not allowed the rights you receive when buying physical products, such as right to re-sell the product (which is actually now protected in law). Finnish laws have lot's of not that perfect stuff in them, but this is a case of laws that I can be happy about for being citizen of one country where these laws are written as it should be:)
You can complain about your inability to sell popsicles at outdoor hockey games, too!
Nobody said that, but if your income depends on being able to make money with your product then it is a disaster of some size. And if you can't make money because of pirating, then it is indeed not incorrect to say that piratism is a disaster for you - regardless of what anyone thinks of complaining about it. And you might also argue that you're business model is disaster, and that too could be just as correct.
Your right, I have no idea of what there is to brag about the fact I have pirated likely over 100 times more programs (mostly, but not all being games) than I have bought - I learned to program with Borland's Turbo Pascal (4.0, then 5.0) and Turbo C/C++ which my father copied from his co-worker after telling him about my interest in programming, which I started on our family PC that ran pirated MS-DOS 5.0 which came with QBASIC, but I never tried to profit commercially from what I created with them and in fact did not even release anything before '95 when we had another system, a Pentium that I could run FOSS DJGPP C/C++ compiler on. And I bought my first own computer in '97 with OS/2 WARP 4, but did not consider Windows 9x worth of my money and installed it as 2nd OS from our family P75's Win95 installation CD. Currently I think I have at least one pirated product - Half-Life, which I play with Wine on Linux. But as I said, there is nothing I can think of to brag about my copyright infringements, even if there is nothing I feel ashamed of either - I do like to pay, eventually, for good commercial products though, but nowdays most software I need is available as FOSS programs.
P.S. Don't bother wasting Finish justice system's resources, what I've done is not punishable, even though not legal either, and it would not be taken to court - unlikely even investigated by police.
ASSUME that the word written in all caps implicates an assumption - which I believe is way off, but even if you ASSUME it to be about right it doesn't make the number worth of any more than what it is, a number pulled from hat which has nothing to do with piracy rate.
One can claim that it proves a point of course - but one can claim pigs fly and unicorns are our alien overlords, which probably actually does prove something;)
The moron (and you) is conflating open source and piracy... which is moronic.
Open source and piracy have a common characteristic: Not paying. That makes the idea that there might be correlation not moronic.
Seriously? To try make you realize how moronic that "correlation", even if existing, I'd like to say that there is the same exact correlation in stealing stuff from someones house and taking a piece of tech your friend would throw away but since you asked he gives it to you for free: Not paying.
Realize now? Doesn't matter - and I mean that the correlation or existence of it doesn't matter at all. It has nothing to do with nothing on the subject it's supposed to have a lot to do with.
But in the phone market, quite different from the computer market, there is another connection: There is an open source OS that makes piracy easy, and a closed source OS that makes piracy hard. Of course pirates will choose the OS that makes piracy easy, which just happens to be the open source OS.
History repeats itself - like ebook readers, mp3 players, etc. there are and have been locked down with DRM only content as well as more open and DRM free platforms. The future will tell if this too will end up with locked down systems being made more open and less locked and restricted, even if not fully open. And with MP3 players, there were propaganda accuses against manufacturers that allowed MP3 and other formats without copy protections / DRM crippleware systems to be used on their players and especially against internet stores selling non DRM crippled media files for not just "making piracy easy" (as in not making the system locked and highly restricted with no regards for legitimate users rights being tampered [and in fact outright abused - ie. trying to achieve system where if user want's to use a song in their MP3 player when jogging and on one or more devices at home he'd have to buy a "song for device X" multiple times, not "buy a song and have it" and where copying song you bought to 2nd device would be stealing] with the claim that it's critical for preventing piracy destroying Big Media starving artists incomes. Vendor lock-in and locked walled garden models are also close friends - and artificial crippling to achieve vendor lock-in, such as: word processor X that gains market from Wordperfect and has the benefit of being able to load and save also in Wordperfect's format, which helps them eventually gain equal market share with WP - all fair competition - but after they reach a share sufficiently larger than WP to dare taking minor risk they release new version still with support to open WP files but saving in WP format has been removed - and having paid for rights to use WP's patented format, and having patented their format which they implied they would be glad if WP used their patented format they now officially state that WP is using their IP (which they didn't officially give WP a permission for), forcing WP to drop format X... this resulting to people switching from WP to X faster, and finally opening WP files will be removed also. Or a real life example of worst kind of artificial crippling of software: Windows 3.x, officially stating MS-DOS as supported OS and designed for it, but perfectly capable, without any extra work done to achieve that, of running on any competing DOS system, including the technically superior DR-DOS which supported multi-tasking - task switching, which froze other applications in the background, to be exact, but it did this in 16-bit real mode with regular DOS applications, not needing programs to be designed for multitasking, while even Windows 3.x could run multiple DOS applications only on 386+ 32-bit mode and in 16-bit mode even Windows applications had to be written to release CPU for Windows that then called next program in line instead of proper pre
"Sex between a man and a woman, and only after marriage, is the only moral way to have sex"
In other words, go fuck yourself and your idea of "morals".
There's a pretty big difference between me and the anti-gay crowd.
I'm a strong believer in moral relativism.
You know, I usually don't put any worth on justifying ones views with argument on how moral/immoral something is - but there is always something new to find. I had to check "moral relativism" from wikipedia, and having found that it's description is to me much closer to ethical thinking than the traditional way people perceive moral dogmas mostly just fed by others and swallowed without chewing, rarely resulting of having genuinely thought any moral values by yourself without being result of others moral teachings anyway - or rarely even questioned before a person just can't keep ignoring arguments against it while being able to keep believing that they have arguments that the other side still takes seriously.
Note, I'm not against you're view on "Open", in fact it's pretty close to how I feel - and now that you stated "moral relativism" and I learned what it is I have more respect on your argument of morality, though I still don't think it's a strong argument for convincing people who disagree. My opinion on high value of ethics and low respect for morals - as in moral dogmas - also was not something I would ever think to justify grandparents disrespectful and childish attack on your argument on morality: despite my view on moral dogmas, I did not see your argument that bad at all - the claim on morality just didn't touch me that much before I read this post and about moral relativism.
That means that I don't require my morals to be your morals. You don't think it's immoral to lock down a device from its own user, fine. You go write software for walled garden platforms. I'm not forcing you to stop. I am, however, going to object to your practices and vote with your wallet, instead of participating in the activity that goes against my morals.
Basically, thinking gay sex is immoral is fine. Just don't have gay sex. The problem is when those people try stopping other consenting adults from participating in it.
Mostly I agree (100% with the gay thing [though I reserve the right to think that those claiming gay sex immoral are disrespectful and nasty people who place judgments on people for something that would cause them no harm if they didn't insist on making it harmful by making it a problem for them inside their own brain - how I loathe such idiots], I have a number of gay, bi, trans{exual,vestite}, etc. friends, my sons mother is bi-sexual, as well as I too) - the only difference is on drawing a line where the unethical lockdown measures to trample on customers rights and abusing him while making more money by ripping them off - like DRM and EULA's that, in example, try to ban you from copying a song you legitimately bought to another device, or even to make a backup and all that while you have to jump through different hoops on different devices just to be able to give money for something you already bought and then after that to play it - while they took care that their EULA states they have no responsibility if the DRM system fails and user can't access a song he has paid for, even when it's the sellers fault because their DRM server crashed, they fsck'd your account data (perhaps polish blackhats stole them) or simply the company goes bankrupt (and did not bother to oven provide tools to be released if they go down and have nothing to gain from customers anyway - this should be criminal, implementing such DRM system should, by law, require the company to design a system to provide a method of keeping their purchase if the company goes bust)... I don't accept that the companies can go as far as they want with this and customers only right is to vote with their wallets - IMHO it's not great but simply
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Those are not social skills. They are sociopath skills. Which probably explains the misogyny in the rest of your post.
While I distance myself from the original claim, I do claim that they are indeed not sociopath skills but social skills - unless taken to a whole other level... See, socially engineering people, playing social games, etc. is in fact large part of how most average people socialize - and people who don't take part on these childish games are often categorized anti-social (in this case because they take the extreme opposite from sociopaths ways).
I acknowledge that these games are somewhat important to our species and cultures, but I can't help but despise them... Still I would say that I'm pretty good at most social skills (a bit awkward on some maybe - partly because of being bullied through school I believe) - but not one of those very good at "social engineering" at all...
Anyway, I'm a hacker, I'm not poor nor excellent on social skills, nor am I a sociopath - and I don't think generalizing hackers in any of these ways is really useful.
Well, I can see no reason to disagree with what you are saying on this post, so at least that far we can fully agree :)
For me PKD is right up to level of Asimov and Clarke, but it's kinda hard to compare - they are so very very different in their style... PKD for me is more about abstract sci-fi madness, and deal more with psyche than with tech and science, so they are kinda different animals...
Good point, even if we're actually talking about whole DE's, not plain WM's.... but then even the WM's today, namely those these DE's default to using, are bloated in both binary code and the data they store.
I mean, even if the DE is bloated, how much more space can the WM need than, say, Fluxbox - or, hell, even Enlightenment (DR16)?
Personally I use Ion3 and with all the settings and Lua extensions it's tiny... a WM don't need to eat 100's, not even 10's of megabytes...
I think the number of such idiots have and will just grow because of computers becoming common tools everyone now has - best just to ignore them and hope they go away when they see you don't care.
I prefer tiling&tabbing window manager, and a possibility for floating mode workplace is a plus, so ion3 (which has pwm3 for that floating mode thingy built-in) - with tiling I understood how unnecessary iconifying is (and a friend blamed my system stupid because "how on earth can I minimize this window?" - I just replied "why on earth would you need to!?).
Debian can be installed on old systems that may not even have a DVD drive - it has to fit on CD (and why shouldn't it? There are extra CD's and DVD versions for those who need to have more stuff to install right from the disc - though what's the point unless you're internets are slow?)
It does have an automatic default install - and it installs Gnome by default. Perhaps only when installing from LiveCD/DVD, but it's not just for live session. I know because my last debian install was the default one (previously I had installed only the bare minimal base system and apt-getted everything after that, but going that way is too time taking for me).
Single payer?
In Finland we have free/cheap (you get billed, but if you are unemployed the social security system covers your public health care costs and your medicine) socialized health care system - and we have a well doing private sector as well, with healthy competition. It's a very healthy system.
As Finnish citizen, I confirm this.
Yanks should try and have a pizza in Italy - and no, 4rth generation Italian-American stereotype doesn't make it an Italian pizza.
But I don't know if you people would actually even like it - I kinda have an image of Americans loving their pizzas which would be shunned by Italians and maybe Yanks would not even recognize the Italian ones as good pizzas... but then, this is just my imagination... And I'm Finnish, but I've been to Italy and my papa was also big on Italian cuisine so I've had quite Italian pizzas at age of 3 at rent apartment in Finland...
You go ask someone living in one of the "nordic welfare states" - someone like, umm, me... ah yes, I live in Finland - and we have socialized health care. Watching the documentary film Sicko really makes me sick, in a way that even our health care system can't help :(
No, it hasn't. Ever been to Cuba, where you get an aspirin for free, for everything because that's all they have?
I call bullshit...
A better comparison is the health care systems of say, Japan, Canada or Israel... or almost any other developed country for that matter.
...there is a point to comparison with Cuba here - and it's something you dislike so much you had to resort into lying: you could never accept that a socialist country has done something better than you do in USA.
Anyway, I know the man is a populist, but still the documentary film Sicko is quite worth watching - it has a part where they get "aspirin" from Cuba too ;)
What you have to realise is that the Nike options (like -f and --force in most commands) means you sign in blood that you know what the command is doing, have verified it three times, and that you know that any blame rests squarely on your shoulders alone.
If you aren't willing to sign that, use -i instead.
~$ mod -f "this up, high up!"
Lots of people have religious objections, and they will argue that they take their moral code from a higher power, it's not something they are allowed to change. I don't agree with it, it doesn't make any sense to me (delegating your morals to an all-powerful being is basically a version of might makes right, which goes against my moral code),
How excellent wording with the "might makes right" comparison - I have to remember that and try to come with a good Finnish translation to use ;)
and I haven't observed them to be particularly consistent in following rules from their reference text (often the reference text isn't consistent with itself).
I've observed this many times too - it's sad.
That said, I'm not going to interfere with their beliefs unless these beliefs are being used to directly harm others. So, if your religious beliefs prevent you from accepting gays, and you want to stay away from them, by all means, do so. I bet they don't want you around either. However, you don't get to make laws that prevent consenting adults from living their lives however they choose.
Agreed.
Well, you got my point (I wrote it as AC as I wanted to keep my mod points ;) ).
Here in Finland regular stores sell lye products strong enough to be practically just as dangerous as 100% lye with no other chemicals, coloring, etc. but you can't legally sell plain lye in there - only products like Kodin Putkimies ("Home Plummer" in english - just like your Drano), with extra ingredients that help to clear your drains, yet not as much as having 100% lye, and yet it's not even safer. But it costs more.
You can buy it from pharmacy though, but while back in early 2000's you could go into any pharmacy and get it, but there are weird restrictions and a widespread perception among pharmacists that there is something shady about selling & buying it and you now days have to search for a pharmacy that sells it - no pharmacist has ever given me any meaningful answer to what is this anti-lye perception nobody can explain, but there also are new restrictions on the sale of pure lye: there is a sheet you have to sign with your name, social security ID and signature, and every purchase of lye from pharmacy gets now registered in database. Also sometimes the pharmacist seem like suspicious of the buyer (though have not gotten an answer for what exactly are they so suspicious about) and they way ask you to state what do you need it for - once I was asked just that, with tone that felt like he was thinking that I'm some evil criminal with nefarious purposes for lye, and when I said that it's for opening drains - the brand they usually have in pharmacies even has instructions on using it for just that printed on the bottle - I said it with tone sounding likely as if I was explaining something self evident to a small kid, I got turned down by a long silence and suspicious look on his face and finally response: "Well, I don't really understand why you could not buy a regular drain opener product from market like other people", and they did not sell it to me - and he genuinely seemed to believe that the only reason for wanting that product could only be something illegal, even though, again, no explanation of *what* that illegal need could be.
I think this is way more fscked up than what you describe ;) So to stay positive, remember that it could be worse but it doesn't have to go that way.
Doesn't sound so different from my childhood at all, and yet I spent my first ten years in 80's at very small city (in comparison), Pori, in Finland :)
The question is really about how to balance developers needs and the consumers. I would have no objection if the apps were locked to the IMIE number or some other HW number provided. But obviously this would need to be balanced with privacy considerations.
I agree with everything you said, expect on this: I could never accept having software I have paid money for to be locked on specific device - if I buy it I expect that I can transfer it from my old device to new one. Also, in my country, Finland it is accepted and legal to have software product bought for personal use installed on more than one computer/device. Software is considered, in general not legally same as physical products (which is sometimes used as claim to justify that you should not be allowed to "multiply" a product as you bought it as one "item") nor can software normally sold with claim that you are not buying the product but a license to use the product - which is used to claim that you don't own the product and thus are not allowed the rights you receive when buying physical products, such as right to re-sell the product (which is actually now protected in law). :)
Finnish laws have lot's of not that perfect stuff in them, but this is a case of laws that I can be happy about for being citizen of one country where these laws are written as it should be
Who says your business model HAS to make money?
You can complain about your inability to sell popsicles at outdoor hockey games, too!
Nobody said that, but if your income depends on being able to make money with your product then it is a disaster of some size. And if you can't make money because of pirating, then it is indeed not incorrect to say that piratism is a disaster for you - regardless of what anyone thinks of complaining about it. And you might also argue that you're business model is disaster, and that too could be just as correct.
He's not arguing you don't have the right, he's arguing that making such devices doesn't benefit developers.
So, when he says that Android is "designed for piracy", he means to point that it's OK, just not beneficial to developers?
Your right, I have no idea of what there is to brag about the fact I have pirated likely over 100 times more programs (mostly, but not all being games) than I have bought - I learned to program with Borland's Turbo Pascal (4.0, then 5.0) and Turbo C/C++ which my father copied from his co-worker after telling him about my interest in programming, which I started on our family PC that ran pirated MS-DOS 5.0 which came with QBASIC, but I never tried to profit commercially from what I created with them and in fact did not even release anything before '95 when we had another system, a Pentium that I could run FOSS DJGPP C/C++ compiler on. And I bought my first own computer in '97 with OS/2 WARP 4, but did not consider Windows 9x worth of my money and installed it as 2nd OS from our family P75's Win95 installation CD.
Currently I think I have at least one pirated product - Half-Life, which I play with Wine on Linux.
But as I said, there is nothing I can think of to brag about my copyright infringements, even if there is nothing I feel ashamed of either - I do like to pay, eventually, for good commercial products though, but nowdays most software I need is available as FOSS programs.
P.S. Don't bother wasting Finish justice system's resources, what I've done is not punishable, even though not legal either, and it would not be taken to court - unlikely even investigated by police.
ASSUME that the word written in all caps implicates an assumption - which I believe is way off, but even if you ASSUME it to be about right it doesn't make the number worth of any more than what it is, a number pulled from hat which has nothing to do with piracy rate.
One can claim that it proves a point of course - but one can claim pigs fly and unicorns are our alien overlords, which probably actually does prove something ;)
The moron (and you) is conflating open source and piracy... which is moronic.
Open source and piracy have a common characteristic: Not paying. That makes the idea that there might be correlation not moronic.
Seriously? To try make you realize how moronic that "correlation", even if existing, I'd like to say that there is the same exact correlation in stealing stuff from someones house and taking a piece of tech your friend would throw away but since you asked he gives it to you for free: Not paying.
Realize now? Doesn't matter - and I mean that the correlation or existence of it doesn't matter at all. It has nothing to do with nothing on the subject it's supposed to have a lot to do with.
But in the phone market, quite different from the computer market, there is another connection: There is an open source OS that makes piracy easy, and a closed source OS that makes piracy hard. Of course pirates will choose the OS that makes piracy easy, which just happens to be the open source OS.
History repeats itself - like ebook readers, mp3 players, etc. there are and have been locked down with DRM only content as well as more open and DRM free platforms. The future will tell if this too will end up with locked down systems being made more open and less locked and restricted, even if not fully open. And with MP3 players, there were propaganda accuses against manufacturers that allowed MP3 and other formats without copy protections / DRM crippleware systems to be used on their players and especially against internet stores selling non DRM crippled media files for not just "making piracy easy" (as in not making the system locked and highly restricted with no regards for legitimate users rights being tampered [and in fact outright abused - ie. trying to achieve system where if user want's to use a song in their MP3 player when jogging and on one or more devices at home he'd have to buy a "song for device X" multiple times, not "buy a song and have it" and where copying song you bought to 2nd device would be stealing] with the claim that it's critical for preventing piracy destroying Big Media starving artists incomes.
Vendor lock-in and locked walled garden models are also close friends - and artificial crippling to achieve vendor lock-in, such as: word processor X that gains market from Wordperfect and has the benefit of being able to load and save also in Wordperfect's format, which helps them eventually gain equal market share with WP - all fair competition - but after they reach a share sufficiently larger than WP to dare taking minor risk they release new version still with support to open WP files but saving in WP format has been removed - and having paid for rights to use WP's patented format, and having patented their format which they implied they would be glad if WP used their patented format they now officially state that WP is using their IP (which they didn't officially give WP a permission for), forcing WP to drop format X... this resulting to people switching from WP to X faster, and finally opening WP files will be removed also.
Or a real life example of worst kind of artificial crippling of software: Windows 3.x, officially stating MS-DOS as supported OS and designed for it, but perfectly capable, without any extra work done to achieve that, of running on any competing DOS system, including the technically superior DR-DOS which supported multi-tasking - task switching, which froze other applications in the background, to be exact, but it did this in 16-bit real mode with regular DOS applications, not needing programs to be designed for multitasking, while even Windows 3.x could run multiple DOS applications only on 386+ 32-bit mode and in 16-bit mode even Windows applications had to be written to release CPU for Windows that then called next program in line instead of proper pre
"Sex between a man and a woman, and only after marriage, is the only moral way to have sex"
In other words, go fuck yourself and your idea of "morals".
There's a pretty big difference between me and the anti-gay crowd.
I'm a strong believer in moral relativism.
You know, I usually don't put any worth on justifying ones views with argument on how moral/immoral something is - but there is always something new to find. I had to check "moral relativism" from wikipedia, and having found that it's description is to me much closer to ethical thinking than the traditional way people perceive moral dogmas mostly just fed by others and swallowed without chewing, rarely resulting of having genuinely thought any moral values by yourself without being result of others moral teachings anyway - or rarely even questioned before a person just can't keep ignoring arguments against it while being able to keep believing that they have arguments that the other side still takes seriously.
Note, I'm not against you're view on "Open", in fact it's pretty close to how I feel - and now that you stated "moral relativism" and I learned what it is I have more respect on your argument of morality, though I still don't think it's a strong argument for convincing people who disagree. My opinion on high value of ethics and low respect for morals - as in moral dogmas - also was not something I would ever think to justify grandparents disrespectful and childish attack on your argument on morality: despite my view on moral dogmas, I did not see your argument that bad at all - the claim on morality just didn't touch me that much before I read this post and about moral relativism.
That means that I don't require my morals to be your morals. You don't think it's immoral to lock down a device from its own user, fine. You go write software for walled garden platforms. I'm not forcing you to stop. I am, however, going to object to your practices and vote with your wallet, instead of participating in the activity that goes against my morals.
Basically, thinking gay sex is immoral is fine. Just don't have gay sex. The problem is when those people try stopping other consenting adults from participating in it.
Mostly I agree (100% with the gay thing [though I reserve the right to think that those claiming gay sex immoral are disrespectful and nasty people who place judgments on people for something that would cause them no harm if they didn't insist on making it harmful by making it a problem for them inside their own brain - how I loathe such idiots], I have a number of gay, bi, trans{exual,vestite}, etc. friends, my sons mother is bi-sexual, as well as I too) - the only difference is on drawing a line where the unethical lockdown measures to trample on customers rights and abusing him while making more money by ripping them off - like DRM and EULA's that, in example, try to ban you from copying a song you legitimately bought to another device, or even to make a backup and all that while you have to jump through different hoops on different devices just to be able to give money for something you already bought and then after that to play it - while they took care that their EULA states they have no responsibility if the DRM system fails and user can't access a song he has paid for, even when it's the sellers fault because their DRM server crashed, they fsck'd your account data (perhaps polish blackhats stole them) or simply the company goes bankrupt (and did not bother to oven provide tools to be released if they go down and have nothing to gain from customers anyway - this should be criminal, implementing such DRM system should, by law, require the company to design a system to provide a method of keeping their purchase if the company goes bust)... I don't accept that the companies can go as far as they want with this and customers only right is to vote with their wallets - IMHO it's not great but simply