Actually, I was wrong in my original statement, because it is about trademark, not the GPL. However, your comment seems nonlinear, because I don't think it is clear that the GPL applies to the trademark term "Linux," but rather the appropriate conditions under which code can be used.
As for your other points, I have no idea what you are talking about. No doubt you've lumped me in with some other people.
Corel has a business before the whole.CON thing with their Corel Graphics suite. I remember it with fondness.
And using XML / submitting things to specs bodies can be part of making things open.. but I guess you're too busy using Perl to look at anything else.
I do agree that Corel has something of a history of dumping things before really giving them a chance, their Java office suite comes to mind. With the improvements of Java along with some influence it could have become a real contender.
I don't agree with you (whoever you are) at all. Nowhere in "news for nerds, stuff that matters" do I see anything about GPL, and in fact many of the attitudes expressed here are ambivilant or against GPL philosophy.
Personally I think it would be nice if the slashdot community would align itself more with the GPL philosophy because it is one of the more interesting things going on in the world right now, but criticism is helpful too.
Anyway, I think it is great that the author opened himself up to the community's comments, it's not like he could patent all the ideas afterward.
I am basically doing what you suggest, but instead rebroadcasting an mp3 stream. The problem is quite obvious; the different rooms are all playing at slightly different parts in the stream, and I don't know of any solution for completely precise synchronization. Depending on volume in different rooms, it ranges from strange (when in hallways) to unuseable (when volume is too high in one room, it throws off all the other rooms).
It is otherwise a nice solution. For the living room, I use a computer in the basement with an svideo output to a tv, with VNC or a wireless keyboard to control it. This lets me use a cheap powerful PC without worrying about noise/space issues.
My message was a response to the original post saying enviro cars were going to make it all better, to which I replied I really don't see much of a trend towards enviro cars, in fact I just see ad after ad selling "experience" (eg people wearing sunglasses racing around in fog or whatever). What your point is, besides your ability to stereotype people and thereby make a lot of noise without a lot of thought, escapes me.
When I watch TV, most of the ads are vehicle ads, and environmental friendliness/fuel economy has disappeared as a factor from most vehicle ads; television, billboard, everywhere. They all focus on the experience, which I find quite shocking and sad, because it is so thoughtless.
Maybe environmentally friendly cars will be mainstream soon, but it doesn't seem like most people care.
Maybe you live in a place where living without cars is impractical. I don't, there are lots of taxis and I can walk anywhere; despite this there are a huge number of trucks (aka SUVs). I like to walk a lot, and I walk to work every day. This morning I was hit by a car, crossing the street on my right of way. I wasn't seriously hurt, but I was hurt and it is jolting; fortunately I wasn't hit by an SUV or I could have been pushed under it.
Cars are big (especially for one person, which they usually contain), dangerous, environmentally unfriendly beasts (especially compared to alternatives) that create a self centered environment. An industry does not care about the by products of their sales, they just want to make more cash. People could be more conscious about their choices, and learn to enjoy getting exercise and saving fuel & pollution, and that should be a mainstream thought, not "buy bigger cars," which is where we seem to be now.
That's an interesting fantasy, but except for the simplest programs, things tend to morph around them and eventually they just stop working, regardless of what platform they're for.
Wow. So you save a few dollars. Meanwhile, their costs are much lower. My point, partially, was that the price is really going up, since you don't get the assured quality of CDs or anything physical at all, and your favorite record store, delivery people, etc are not getting paid.
"Progress" should go towards making things more accessible and human friendly, but instead it seems to be more about concentrating wealth. People's expectations need to be higher.
Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong place. The old timers can keep buying their CDs and Apple store versions of U2, while the newer generations (and the more savvy out there) can compose and exchange media in ways that take advantage of change. I understand mp3.com is doing that now, but not especially well. That's what I expect to be exciting, not Apple doing the same old with a different medium.
When I was growing up in the country, a cousin of mine literally did not believe that companies made money off selling candy bars because they were so inexpensive. The writeup for this story reflected this, excuse me, hick attitude..99c per track for 12 tracks is more than the cost of a CD. If anyone thinks this is even evolutionary, I'm puzzled.
What would be evolutionary would be recognizing that music sales over the internet makes music available to a global audience, and that word of mouth, including some cases of "piracy," (free sharing) is key to this equation. What would be revolutionary would be applying this knowledge to all different areas, so that anyone who produces any content, whether they are musicians, political pundits or writers can make a living off it.
Now we have the entertainment industry who has their teeth on music costing lots of money with lots of middlemen, but in our modern world it really doesn't make any sense and is something that we have to overcome somehow or another. Piracy and the intelligence of hackers who circumvent retrograde attempts to block free sharing are indicators of the way we should be going.
I tried the phpeclipse plugin a few months ago and found it a good start but incomplete. Perhaps it has improved but for my purposes I found xored::WebStudio to be much better, including its outline view, which indicates include files. Very nice, though unfortunately not open source.
Great, why don't you buy a phone that's just a phone then. Me, I can hardly wait for a convergence devices that reuses a screen, battery, communications capability, memory and processor effectively for anything I might want to carry a gizmo around for. I might even buy one of these short term solutions towards that goal.
I work on projects in the health and online government fields. In both cases, I encounter skepticism about the quality of free/open source software vs proprietary. I consider this skepticism illogical - because something is hidden doesn't make it more secure, it just means someone has to use a different technique than reading source code to discover flaws.
However, it would be very helpful to the cause of free/open source software to address this perception. How can this be done? Going forward with additional comparisons, for example, a comparison of browsers, web servers, or a package like Zope would seem to be one way.
I have yet to think of a good use for the scroll wheel on mice. Personally, I think they were fine with four legs and think software companies should stay out of genetic engineering.
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Well, I didn't suggest anyone do anything. I simply stated that I "went vegetarian" for my own personal reasons that have to do with believing large scale meat-centered production and consumption may be a bad thing, and that we have more choice than many people choose to live out.
I also believe there are no absolute truths and no definitive ethics behavior, most truths and facts exist in a vacuum, and that the reality we end up living in is a result of weighing possibilities and coming up with something workable (well, sometimes).
To summarize, it would make me happy if people would consider eating less meat instead of just saying "I like the taste of meat nyah nyah" (most of what we eat comes from an outside suggestion anyway, an other point being there is more variety than the few things that keep people tied to a meat-centred diet). I don't think I'm much of a facist because of that and I certainly don't deserve a "careful, dude."
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wtf? Where do you work? Is there any other kind of industry? Isn't that the purpose of industry?
I didn't say they anyone was doing anything unusual. We can view things outside of the "purpose of industry." In fact we can even question and change what industries do, to our advantage. You didn't know this? Wow.
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I am a vegetarian, but not a ranter (I think). The reason I became a vegetarian is I think people eat too much meat, and meat production is not particular environmentally sound or efficient, as well as being thoughtlessly unconcious of other creatures with an awareness of their surroundings.
I quit eating meant for basically the reason I quit smoking. When it comes down to it, and no offense to the farmers and others who I know care about their product, taken as a whole it is an industry that doesn't care about anything but making money, and if they can have people eating meat (and cheese) three times a day they will, no matter how non-sensible or unneccesary it is.
I believe it when people say the largely unregulated factory farms with tens of thousands of animals in them are unsafe, that they are a terrible use of our resources (water, land, and generated waste) and and that vegetarian diets are healther than those that include meat (especially so much meat). I also believe that we are very adaptable creatures and that I am able to make conscious choices. There is plenty of choice in food, lots of stuff that tastes great and is healthy and not meat (or dairy), yet so many people react in very stereotypical ways when one suggests that removing beef, chicken and cheese (90% of the non-vegetarian diet) is a thing to do.
These are facts too.
I am personally for vat grown meat, because it might resolve some of the above issues, though I do have mighty concerns about the experimental nature of this challenge.
Who cares if it says "Porsche?" Porsche also redesigned one of Fuji's digital cameras, and the finished product was, I think and most people I talked to, uglier than the original. I am all for good design, and there are many design firms that have earned a good name through years of proven solid designs, but this is just dumb.
That's funny. I didn't think that capitalist organizations were supposed to be investing our charitable resources for us. In fact, I would hope that individuals and government would be able to do this themselves. I wonder why Microsoft's chairman has all these resources to throw around? Might have something to do with being in a monopolistic position.
Most drives get noisier over time. I've had many drives that were nearly silent when I purchased them, but after not much time they start to get noticeably louder, until they're unbearable. Especially Maxtor.:> Anyway, since this article (and all the others that I've seen) don't address noise levels after a month or six, they're really not all that helpful.
I've given up trying to find a quiet enough drive for my living room and just put the living room system in another room (the basement) with long cables. It's a bit awkward (though will be better once I acquire an external DVD-RW) but a much simpler solution.
Would you or anyone else knowledgable about content management/workflow systems mind terribly making comments on Zope or specifically Plone? http://www.plone.org
It is also apparently in use by a number of news agencies, and I'm thinking of committing to it for a couple of major projects.
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Actually, I was wrong in my original statement, because it is about trademark, not the GPL. However, your comment seems nonlinear, because I don't think it is clear that the GPL applies to the trademark term "Linux," but rather the appropriate conditions under which code can be used.
As for your other points, I have no idea what you are talking about. No doubt you've lumped me in with some other people.
Why don't you read http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php and tell me how ill informed it is.
Perhaps because one of the definitions and points of open source software is that it is available to anyone, without exception.
Corel has a business before the whole
And using XML / submitting things to specs bodies can be part of making things open.. but I guess you're too busy using Perl to look at anything else.
I do agree that Corel has something of a history of dumping things before really giving them a chance, their Java office suite comes to mind. With the improvements of Java along with some influence it could have become a real contender.
I don't agree with you (whoever you are) at all. Nowhere in "news for nerds, stuff that matters" do I see anything about GPL, and in fact many of the attitudes expressed here are ambivilant or against GPL philosophy.
Personally I think it would be nice if the slashdot community would align itself more with the GPL philosophy because it is one of the more interesting things going on in the world right now, but criticism is helpful too.
Anyway, I think it is great that the author opened himself up to the community's comments, it's not like he could patent all the ideas afterward.
I am basically doing what you suggest, but instead rebroadcasting an mp3 stream. The problem is quite obvious; the different rooms are all playing at slightly different parts in the stream, and I don't know of any solution for completely precise synchronization. Depending on volume in different rooms, it ranges from strange (when in hallways) to unuseable (when volume is too high in one room, it throws off all the other rooms).
It is otherwise a nice solution. For the living room, I use a computer in the basement with an svideo output to a tv, with VNC or a wireless keyboard to control it. This lets me use a cheap powerful PC without worrying about noise/space issues.
Yes, I think that's who said it 'first'.. whoever modded the original remark 'redundant' had the same thought in mind. :>
That's right. The best thing about standards is there are so many to choose from.
My message was a response to the original post saying enviro cars were going to make it all better, to which I replied I really don't see much of a trend towards enviro cars, in fact I just see ad after ad selling "experience" (eg people wearing sunglasses racing around in fog or whatever). What your point is, besides your ability to stereotype people and thereby make a lot of noise without a lot of thought, escapes me.
When I watch TV, most of the ads are vehicle ads, and environmental friendliness/fuel economy has disappeared as a factor from most vehicle ads; television, billboard, everywhere. They all focus on the experience, which I find quite shocking and sad, because it is so thoughtless.
Maybe environmentally friendly cars will be mainstream soon, but it doesn't seem like most people care.
Maybe you live in a place where living without cars is impractical. I don't, there are lots of taxis and I can walk anywhere; despite this there are a huge number of trucks (aka SUVs). I like to walk a lot, and I walk to work every day. This morning I was hit by a car, crossing the street on my right of way. I wasn't seriously hurt, but I was hurt and it is jolting; fortunately I wasn't hit by an SUV or I could have been pushed under it.
Cars are big (especially for one person, which they usually contain), dangerous, environmentally unfriendly beasts (especially compared to alternatives) that create a self centered environment. An industry does not care about the by products of their sales, they just want to make more cash. People could be more conscious about their choices, and learn to enjoy getting exercise and saving fuel & pollution, and that should be a mainstream thought, not "buy bigger cars," which is where we seem to be now.
That's an interesting fantasy, but except for the simplest programs, things tend to morph around them and eventually they just stop working, regardless of what platform they're for.
Wow. So you save a few dollars. Meanwhile, their costs are much lower. My point, partially, was that the price is really going up, since you don't get the assured quality of CDs or anything physical at all, and your favorite record store, delivery people, etc are not getting paid.
"Progress" should go towards making things more accessible and human friendly, but instead it seems to be more about concentrating wealth. People's expectations need to be higher.
Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong place. The old timers can keep buying their CDs and Apple store versions of U2, while the newer generations (and the more savvy out there) can compose and exchange media in ways that take advantage of change. I understand mp3.com is doing that now, but not especially well. That's what I expect to be exciting, not Apple doing the same old with a different medium.
When I was growing up in the country, a cousin of mine literally did not believe that companies made money off selling candy bars because they were so inexpensive. The writeup for this story reflected this, excuse me, hick attitude. .99c per track for 12 tracks is more than the cost of a CD. If anyone thinks this is even evolutionary, I'm puzzled.
What would be evolutionary would be recognizing that music sales over the internet makes music available to a global audience, and that word of mouth, including some cases of "piracy," (free sharing) is key to this equation. What would be revolutionary would be applying this knowledge to all different areas, so that anyone who produces any content, whether they are musicians, political pundits or writers can make a living off it.
Now we have the entertainment industry who has their teeth on music costing lots of money with lots of middlemen, but in our modern world it really doesn't make any sense and is something that we have to overcome somehow or another. Piracy and the intelligence of hackers who circumvent retrograde attempts to block free sharing are indicators of the way we should be going.
I tried the phpeclipse plugin a few months ago and found it a good start but incomplete. Perhaps it has improved but for my purposes I found xored::WebStudio to be much better, including its outline view, which indicates include files. Very nice, though unfortunately not open source.
http://www.xored.com/products.php
Great, why don't you buy a phone that's just a phone then. Me, I can hardly wait for a convergence devices that reuses a screen, battery, communications capability, memory and processor effectively for anything I might want to carry a gizmo around for. I might even buy one of these short term solutions towards that goal.
I work on projects in the health and online government fields. In both cases, I encounter skepticism about the quality of free/open source software vs proprietary. I consider this skepticism illogical - because something is hidden doesn't make it more secure, it just means someone has to use a different technique than reading source code to discover flaws.
However, it would be very helpful to the cause of free/open source software to address this perception. How can this be done? Going forward with additional comparisons, for example, a comparison of browsers, web servers, or a package like Zope would seem to be one way.
I have yet to think of a good use for the scroll wheel on mice. Personally, I think they were fine with four legs and think software companies should stay out of genetic engineering.
Well, I didn't suggest anyone do anything. I simply stated that I "went vegetarian" for my own personal reasons that have to do with believing large scale meat-centered production and consumption may be a bad thing, and that we have more choice than many people choose to live out.
I also believe there are no absolute truths and no definitive ethics behavior, most truths and facts exist in a vacuum, and that the reality we end up living in is a result of weighing possibilities and coming up with something workable (well, sometimes).
To summarize, it would make me happy if people would consider eating less meat instead of just saying "I like the taste of meat nyah nyah" (most of what we eat comes from an outside suggestion anyway, an other point being there is more variety than the few things that keep people tied to a meat-centred diet). I don't think I'm much of a facist because of that and I certainly don't deserve a "careful, dude."
wtf? Where do you work? Is there any other kind of industry? Isn't that the purpose of industry?
I didn't say they anyone was doing anything unusual. We can view things outside of the "purpose of industry." In fact we can even question and change what industries do, to our advantage. You didn't know this? Wow.
I am a vegetarian, but not a ranter (I think). The reason I became a vegetarian is I think people eat too much meat, and meat production is not particular environmentally sound or efficient, as well as being thoughtlessly unconcious of other creatures with an awareness of their surroundings.
I quit eating meant for basically the reason I quit smoking. When it comes down to it, and no offense to the farmers and others who I know care about their product, taken as a whole it is an industry that doesn't care about anything but making money, and if they can have people eating meat (and cheese) three times a day they will, no matter how non-sensible or unneccesary it is.
I believe it when people say the largely unregulated factory farms with tens of thousands of animals in them are unsafe, that they are a terrible use of our resources (water, land, and generated waste) and and that vegetarian diets are healther than those that include meat (especially so much meat). I also believe that we are very adaptable creatures and that I am able to make conscious choices. There is plenty of choice in food, lots of stuff that tastes great and is healthy and not meat (or dairy), yet so many people react in very stereotypical ways when one suggests that removing beef, chicken and cheese (90% of the non-vegetarian diet) is a thing to do.
These are facts too.
I am personally for vat grown meat, because it might resolve some of the above issues, though I do have mighty concerns about the experimental nature of this challenge.
Who cares if it says "Porsche?" Porsche also redesigned one of Fuji's digital cameras, and the finished product was, I think and most people I talked to, uglier than the original. I am all for good design, and there are many design firms that have earned a good name through years of proven solid designs, but this is just dumb.
That's funny. I didn't think that capitalist organizations were supposed to be investing our charitable resources for us. In fact, I would hope that individuals and government would be able to do this themselves. I wonder why Microsoft's chairman has all these resources to throw around? Might have something to do with being in a monopolistic position.
Most drives get noisier over time. I've had many drives that were nearly silent when I purchased them, but after not much time they start to get noticeably louder, until they're unbearable. Especially Maxtor. :> Anyway, since this article (and all the others that I've seen) don't address noise levels after a month or six, they're really not all that helpful.
I've given up trying to find a quiet enough drive for my living room and just put the living room system in another room (the basement) with long cables. It's a bit awkward (though will be better once I acquire an external DVD-RW) but a much simpler solution.
Would you or anyone else knowledgable about content management/workflow systems mind terribly making comments on Zope or specifically Plone? http://www.plone.org
It is also apparently in use by a number of news agencies, and I'm thinking of committing to it for a couple of major projects.
Thanks!
Why do you (and so many others) take it or granted that vitamins and suppletments work? They're an industry too.