Obviously you've never seen the movie, or alternately have the intelligence of a brick. Or maybe just the attention span of a bowl of soup. Gladiator was an excellent movie, and I reserve the legal right to kill anyone who is retarded enough to claim it wasn't. I would be doing it to purify the gene pool, of course. ------------------ supruzr "..And if you find yourself fighting alone, in a field, with the sun at your face, worry not, for you are in Elysian, and you are already dead!"
You are quite right when you say that there is no hidden spirituality in physics. However, you also make it sound like 'the human mind' and 'the outside world' are mutually exclusive, when in fact they are anything but.
I personally believe that the marriage of theosophy and science is a great thing. There are many who would argue, perhaps yourself included, being atheist, that concepts such as 'God' and 'higher purpose' are absurd. Would you have us believe that we are, indeed, a product of randomness? That the fact that the species Homo Sapiens is capable of rationality and imagination was an incidental effect of some long-forgotten process of the universe around us?
I think the problem in such matters as this lies in a communication breakdown. People saying things and not really going into what they mean. For instance, why do you call yourself atheist? Atheism, in its most fundamental form, is truly absurd. I'm certainly not presuming to tell you your own beliefs, and I don't want you to infer that, but seriously, is it rational to believe that there is no such thing as god? There was just another communication breakdown. God. This is where all the misunderstanding comes from. The definition of 'God' is not so clear-cut as some think. What do you mean when you say you don't believe in God? If you are on the most basic level, then God is nothing more than that which created us. And since, indeed, we DO exist, then so does god. God doesn't have to be in the likeness of a person, God doesn't need to love us, and God doesn't need to be self-aware at all. Whether you believe in religion or not is not the same as whether you believe in god or not. Again, forgive me, but your argument seems to root in that by atheist you meant that you don't believe in god. It is absurd not to believe in god.
Whether you want to admit it or not, we were created. We are here now as proof. Which means that God, in some form, does or perhaps did exist. Now I am not talking about a burning bush, or a voice from the sky, or a kind and all-knowing grandfather figure, or a multi-appendaged yogi, or a middle aged man who was exposed to such violent torture so long ago. That is religion. This has nothing to do with religion. Religion is bunk. This particular book has nothing to do with religion. It seeks to arouse awareness in the origins of our existence, and not from a purely scientific standpoint. Spirituality is not the same as religion. I think that the vast majority of the human race finally realizes that the answers to the questions that we have traditionally used religion for are not there. The major religions in the world really do nothing to seriously explain our origins or our purpose. The few sadistic ones aside, religious belief does more to tell you how to live than anything else. If you have ever read the Bible or the Quran, the respective authors placed much more care in writing the parables that act as a moral guide than in writing about creation, or apocalypse. I mean, come on, the book of revalations started as a letter to Christian churches under siege in the middle east to give them a little courage. Now people read it as if it is the word of divinity. It makes me laugh. But i digress.
IMHO, the only reason conventional religion still exists is that it is so far rooted in tradition, and humans have a tendency to revel in status quo. That, and the fact that some people just need a security blanket or an invisible friend. Even still, religions texts are unsurpassed when it comes to interesting fables. They rival modern authors in complexity in some cases.
I don't have the answers, but I believe that The Mind of God touches on some things that everyone should come to realize, that as we continue to advance as a race, spirituality and science will become one in the same. This book shows that it can be done. It may be hard to fathom, but there will come a day when we become so advanced, that we will surpass our current notion of 'God', and perhaps go out, and start life a-spinning on some distant planet. There is no power greater than the power of creation. For too long, people have been looking for answers in that mysterious nether that has come to be known as ignorance, I think it's time we started truly looking.
Sorry to have shot down your half-formed flame of something you don't understand. Doug Adams is a good author, too bad you are trying to use his work for such a dark purpose. --- "I think not," said Descartes, and promptly disappeared.
I can't believe this crap. I didn't even KNOW about this until just today when I came on Slashdot. Anyway, like CmdrTaco says, PLEASE everyone support this by joining the EFF or at least getting a T-Shirt at Copyleft. I am a friend of A. Sleep in CT, who is being prosecuted, and I cannot stress enough the everyone's help will be appreciated. Everyone should Learn the Facts from http://www.2600.com/ and http://www.ct2600.org/ and my site is temporarily at http://www.geocities.com/supruzr
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Obviously you've never seen the movie, or alternately have the intelligence of a brick. Or maybe just the attention span of a bowl of soup. Gladiator was an excellent movie, and I reserve the legal right to kill anyone who is retarded enough to claim it wasn't. I would be doing it to purify the gene pool, of course. ------------------ supruzr "..And if you find yourself fighting alone, in a field, with the sun at your face, worry not, for you are in Elysian, and you are already dead!"
You are quite right when you say that there is no hidden spirituality in physics. However, you also make it sound like 'the human mind' and 'the outside world' are mutually exclusive, when in fact they are anything but.
I personally believe that the marriage of theosophy and science is a great thing. There are many who would argue, perhaps yourself included, being atheist, that concepts such as 'God' and 'higher purpose' are absurd. Would you have us believe that we are, indeed, a product of randomness? That the fact that the species Homo Sapiens is capable of rationality and imagination was an incidental effect of some long-forgotten process of the universe around us?
I think the problem in such matters as this lies in a communication breakdown. People saying things and not really going into what they mean. For instance, why do you call yourself atheist? Atheism, in its most fundamental form, is truly absurd. I'm certainly not presuming to tell you your own beliefs, and I don't want you to infer that, but seriously, is it rational to believe that there is no such thing as god? There was just another communication breakdown. God. This is where all the misunderstanding comes from. The definition of 'God' is not so clear-cut as some think. What do you mean when you say you don't believe in God? If you are on the most basic level, then God is nothing more than that which created us. And since, indeed, we DO exist, then so does god. God doesn't have to be in the likeness of a person, God doesn't need to love us, and God doesn't need to be self-aware at all. Whether you believe in religion or not is not the same as whether you believe in god or not. Again, forgive me, but your argument seems to root in that by atheist you meant that you don't believe in god. It is absurd not to believe in god.
Whether you want to admit it or not, we were created. We are here now as proof. Which means that God, in some form, does or perhaps did exist. Now I am not talking about a burning bush, or a voice from the sky, or a kind and all-knowing grandfather figure, or a multi-appendaged yogi, or a middle aged man who was exposed to such violent torture so long ago. That is religion. This has nothing to do with religion. Religion is bunk. This particular book has nothing to do with religion. It seeks to arouse awareness in the origins of our existence, and not from a purely scientific standpoint. Spirituality is not the same as religion. I think that the vast majority of the human race finally realizes that the answers to the questions that we have traditionally used religion for are not there. The major religions in the world really do nothing to seriously explain our origins or our purpose. The few sadistic ones aside, religious belief does more to tell you how to live than anything else. If you have ever read the Bible or the Quran, the respective authors placed much more care in writing the parables that act as a moral guide than in writing about creation, or apocalypse. I mean, come on, the book of revalations started as a letter to Christian churches under siege in the middle east to give them a little courage. Now people read it as if it is the word of divinity. It makes me laugh. But i digress.
IMHO, the only reason conventional religion still exists is that it is so far rooted in tradition, and humans have a tendency to revel in status quo. That, and the fact that some people just need a security blanket or an invisible friend. Even still, religions texts are unsurpassed when it comes to interesting fables. They rival modern authors in complexity in some cases.
I don't have the answers, but I believe that The Mind of God touches on some things that everyone should come to realize, that as we continue to advance as a race, spirituality and science will become one in the same. This book shows that it can be done. It may be hard to fathom, but there will come a day when we become so advanced, that we will surpass our current notion of 'God', and perhaps go out, and start life a-spinning on some distant planet. There is no power greater than the power of creation. For too long, people have been looking for answers in that mysterious nether that has come to be known as ignorance, I think it's time we started truly looking.
Sorry to have shot down your half-formed flame of something you don't understand. Doug Adams is a good author, too bad you are trying to use his work for such a dark purpose.
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"I think not," said Descartes, and promptly disappeared.
I can't believe this crap. I didn't even KNOW about this until just today when I came on Slashdot. Anyway, like CmdrTaco says, PLEASE everyone support this by joining the EFF or at least getting a T-Shirt at Copyleft. I am a friend of A. Sleep in CT, who is being prosecuted, and I cannot stress enough the everyone's help will be appreciated. Everyone should Learn the Facts from http://www.2600.com/ and http://www.ct2600.org/ and my site is temporarily at http://www.geocities.com/supruzr