Your point was essentially "it used to be said you never buy a Microsoft OS until they get to SP 1, and now you have to wait until SP 2". 0racle's point was "people should evaluate the OS on its own merits, and Windows 7 was found upon evaluation to be fit for deployment at release".
Could you please quote me verbatim if you're going to do a side by side comparison? I think that's only fair. The reason Microsoft rushes to SP1 is because of bad advice by a major IT consultancy group. That was my only point. Windows 7 has been out for almost six months now and it looks like SP1 will be out very soon now. Vista was released November 2006, and it's first SP just over six months later. Windows XP, in comparison, was released at the end of August 2001, and SP1 was released a year later, in September of 2002. Windows 2000 was released in in February of 2000, and it's first service pack was released 8 months later. Ever since that report was published, Microsoft has been shrinking the timeframe between the date of RTM to SP1. Some googlging shows other operating system vendors release major patches quite a bit more randomly than that.
0racle gave the advice most people who work in the field already know (and his/her advice is correct). I wasn't making any statements about the merits of Windows 7 because I haven't had any professional experience with it in a deployment scenario (which is true for the vast majority of IT workers at this time).
You probably need to stop hanging out with geek squad 'techies.'
And you probably need to cut back on the pompous asshattery. I know people that do senior software deployment for Fortune 100 companies and still refer to themselves as a techie. It's mystifying why you got so many positive mods for insulting someone and then re-stating the exact same point they made. I blame the bleary-eyed geeks rolling in on the west coast right now who haven't had their two cans of Dew yet...
All the obfuscation gets in your way and makes your teeth grind.,/quote>
PLeASe MovE QUickLY To tHe NExt dia-log box, as prolonged EXpos-ure to the box is NOT paRT of any TEst ProTOcol... -- Microsoft, a division of Apeture Science.
...Techies know that SP2 is the new SP1. Microsoft has started rushing SP1 out the door ever since a certain *cough* Gartner Group *cough* suit-zine told management to never upgrade to a new Microsoft OS until it gets past SP1.
You could give that to everybody and there dog and they could use NetFlix on their PC.
But... on the internet, everybody is a dog. Besides, their streaming service is so shitty on the PC that many subscribers of the service still pirate online just because it's easier than trying to convince Silverlight to work. Every new multimedia technology Microsoft creates sucks until the second major revision (at least). Unless they steal it -- I'm looking at you, Windows Media Player, who stole from Quicktime quite blatantly.
Why should I be required to dedicate my disc slot to stream a movie?
DRM vendors love their physical, read-only media. No matter how advanced or compact portable storage gets, they'll always want for it. If for no other reason than they can continue to play tricks with the formatting and physical defects, creating new mutant DRM schemas to visit upon people's machines. Think about it -- why do we have BluRay, which has a maximum capacity of 50GB? They already have solid-state memory devices that only weigh a few grams and have that much storage capacity -- and they don't degrade, scratch, or fall apart after a few months.
It amazed me that people closely watched the HD-DVD vs. BluRay "format war", and never once did they stop and think -- wait, why are we still relying on optical read-only media in the 21st century?
If it is new, it is unfortunate not only to reuse an acronym, but reusing one in the same domain.
There are only 17,576 three letter acronyms. We've been warning people for years of the need to upgrade to TLAv6, which allows for a wider range of three letter acronyms, including punctuation and numbers as well as unicode support. But many major buzzword providers have refused to upgrade. The last unique TLAs will be depleted within 18 months in our field. Thanks to AAT (Acronym Address Translation), there are already far more TLAs than there are available spaces -- we've been using CIAR (Classless Inter-Acronym Routing) to separate namespaces based on subject matter and field, but it's only a matter of time before even that fails.
They've been shooting lasers into people's eyes and using them for display for some time and in every single application of the technology, there's the possibility that it can be used to damage the vision of the user if precautions aren't taken. I'm wondering what the small print for these devices will be.
LORAN (Long Range Aids to Navigation) is an electronic navigation system using low-frequency radio, used by many boaters (including me) before GPS. It has an approximately 200m accuracy and is a functional replacement in case GPS fails or the US implements selective availability in time of war.
Wait -- they're talking about decommissioning a redundant technology and relying on one that the military spends millions on and is mission-critical to its functioning (and thus in no danger of suddenly going offline)? Why is this sudden outbreak of common sense being maligned? I wish our government did this more often!
Now if Google really wants to make a point, with a genuine and serious risk of losing business, how about making google.cn an exclusively SSL site and seeing how fast China blocks it..?
Because Google isn't stupid, maybe? Read their charter. That do no evil thing people bitch about all the time has only one specific tenet that is not vague: following the law. Wherever Google establishes a business presence, it will follow the prevailing law of that jurisdiction. If the country google operates in says "Fork over all private data," they're going to do it. If that country says "Censor this guy into oblivion," google smiles and makes it happen. Because Google is a business, and doing otherwise would compromise its profitability -- and then their executives would get in trouble, possibly even terminated for cause.
Google isn't pulling out because China is big and evil -- they're pulling out because company assets were threatened.
Translation: "We were cool with doing business with you, even effacing our own corporate values, because your country is a lucrative market. But it wasn't enough for us to be cooperative -- you got in our servers and messed with our stuff. And you know what -- that'll cost us more in our reputation and business costs than you're worth, so goodbye."
Basically, they're saying for 5% of the price of a T1 you get 5% the capacity over a month.
Yeah, but if you have a T1, you bet your ass it won't be going on the fritz a half-dozen times a month, and when you call support their first question isn't "Have you updated your antivirus? Tried turning it off and back on again?" The guarantee that your service will be available all the time and if you have any problem you have an immediate resolution is the reason for all that money being spent.
Something else to think about: Dialup (for most) typically averages about 40kbit/s, or about 5KB/s. Let's do some math... 5KB/s -> 300KB/min -> 17.6MB/hr -> 422MB/day -> 12.5GB/month. That more than the vast majority of Comcast says their customers use in a month. So by their own argument, we should be paying less than $20 a month for their service -- which would be competitive with dialup.
If you don't get something, it doesn't mean there is nothing there. Sometimes it takes time, examination, and a willingness to have an open mind.
A willingness to have an open mind doesn't mean I have to abandon my sense of aesthetics or personal tastes. Maybe these neural networks can mimick Pollock's work convincingly. We already have computer programs that can synthesize music passably-well. Just because I sarcastically dismiss his work doesn't mean I don't understand it; There was this guy who decided to serve in the military. He got sick, and was discharged because his girlfriend called his commanding officer. He then married her, banged a few times and popped out a couple kids and lived in a friend's basement. Unfortunately, the kids killed her, quite literally. He was so broken up about it that when his friend died, he moved out of the basement by marrying his newly single wife and raised their six kids together. Oh, I forgot to add -- his name was Monet and he also painted once in awhile. -_-
Also known as "the guy who vomits paint on extra large canvases while drunk and stoned." Glad to see neural nets getting high... they'll make an excellent contribution to modern american art (which imho is an oxymoron).
...substituting the more dangerous heavy metal cadmium
Everybody knows a proper Rudolph is made from tritium, not cadmium. Damn imitation radioactive children's toys... buy american: We use 100% Tritium in our glow in the dark toys!
thanks to intelligent, second-by-second, switching between the two GPUs and automatic on-the-fly re-clocking of the Intel Core i7 CPU. All this also comes in with a price tag of just over $1,000.
So what they're saying is... as long as you don't use the laptop for anything more sophisticated than notepad, you'll get 12 hours. How about watching DVDs? How long will it last then? -_-
Yeah yeah yeah. You're a female. We get it. It's in your id, and you are constantly mentioning it. What do you want, a frickin' medal for having a vag or something? What an attention whore.
Well pardon me for taking pride in my gender. No, I don't want a medal, I just want the same respect you'd give any man on this forum. If I was techiedude96, it'd be a moot point -- But you get +5 insightful and I get a bunch of overrated mods because apparently there's a girl in the clubhouse (le gasp).
I'm a dyke... do you really think a few mods on some backwater geek website is going to deter me from continuing to call you people out for your sexist bullshit?
I suddenly feel a little bit smug having only spent $25 on my vibrator, and the occasional pocket change on lotion and AA batteries. Why anyone would spend hundreds of dollars on a sex toy is beyond me. It feels good to be a girl right now. ^___^
The question is no more phrased improperly than the expectation of privacy on Facebook which flies in the face of the explicit terms of service. This is a problem of education, nothing more.
That's shifting responsibility. It makes more sense to change the legislation and spend a small amount on enforcement and compliance actions against corporations and groups that routinely handle large amounts of personal data. Education is expensive, large fines and public trials are a lot cheaper.
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Your point was essentially "it used to be said you never buy a Microsoft OS until they get to SP 1, and now you have to wait until SP 2". 0racle's point was "people should evaluate the OS on its own merits, and Windows 7 was found upon evaluation to be fit for deployment at release".
Could you please quote me verbatim if you're going to do a side by side comparison? I think that's only fair. The reason Microsoft rushes to SP1 is because of bad advice by a major IT consultancy group. That was my only point. Windows 7 has been out for almost six months now and it looks like SP1 will be out very soon now. Vista was released November 2006, and it's first SP just over six months later. Windows XP, in comparison, was released at the end of August 2001, and SP1 was released a year later, in September of 2002. Windows 2000 was released in in February of 2000, and it's first service pack was released 8 months later. Ever since that report was published, Microsoft has been shrinking the timeframe between the date of RTM to SP1. Some googlging shows other operating system vendors release major patches quite a bit more randomly than that.
0racle gave the advice most people who work in the field already know (and his/her advice is correct). I wasn't making any statements about the merits of Windows 7 because I haven't had any professional experience with it in a deployment scenario (which is true for the vast majority of IT workers at this time).
You probably need to stop hanging out with geek squad 'techies.'
And you probably need to cut back on the pompous asshattery. I know people that do senior software deployment for Fortune 100 companies and still refer to themselves as a techie. It's mystifying why you got so many positive mods for insulting someone and then re-stating the exact same point they made. I blame the bleary-eyed geeks rolling in on the west coast right now who haven't had their two cans of Dew yet...
All the obfuscation gets in your way and makes your teeth grind.,/quote>
PLeASe MovE QUickLY To tHe NExt dia-log box, as prolonged EXpos-ure to the box is NOT paRT of any TEst ProTOcol...
-- Microsoft, a division of Apeture Science.
...Techies know that SP2 is the new SP1. Microsoft has started rushing SP1 out the door ever since a certain *cough* Gartner Group *cough* suit-zine told management to never upgrade to a new Microsoft OS until it gets past SP1.
Because a 50GB SSD costs about $100 per unit at minimum
who said anything about using an SSD? Did people suddenly forget that we used to have solid-state read-only memory, known as PROMs?
You could give that to everybody and there dog and they could use NetFlix on their PC.
But... on the internet, everybody is a dog. Besides, their streaming service is so shitty on the PC that many subscribers of the service still pirate online just because it's easier than trying to convince Silverlight to work. Every new multimedia technology Microsoft creates sucks until the second major revision (at least). Unless they steal it -- I'm looking at you, Windows Media Player, who stole from Quicktime quite blatantly.
Why should I be required to dedicate my disc slot to stream a movie?
DRM vendors love their physical, read-only media. No matter how advanced or compact portable storage gets, they'll always want for it. If for no other reason than they can continue to play tricks with the formatting and physical defects, creating new mutant DRM schemas to visit upon people's machines. Think about it -- why do we have BluRay, which has a maximum capacity of 50GB? They already have solid-state memory devices that only weigh a few grams and have that much storage capacity -- and they don't degrade, scratch, or fall apart after a few months.
It amazed me that people closely watched the HD-DVD vs. BluRay "format war", and never once did they stop and think -- wait, why are we still relying on optical read-only media in the 21st century?
If it is new, it is unfortunate not only to reuse an acronym, but reusing one in the same domain.
There are only 17,576 three letter acronyms. We've been warning people for years of the need to upgrade to TLAv6, which allows for a wider range of three letter acronyms, including punctuation and numbers as well as unicode support. But many major buzzword providers have refused to upgrade. The last unique TLAs will be depleted within 18 months in our field. Thanks to AAT (Acronym Address Translation), there are already far more TLAs than there are available spaces -- we've been using CIAR (Classless Inter-Acronym Routing) to separate namespaces based on subject matter and field, but it's only a matter of time before even that fails.
"Do not break screen and stare into laser"?
"I can't let you do that, Dave."
"Do not look at LPD with remaining eye."
They've been shooting lasers into people's eyes and using them for display for some time and in every single application of the technology, there's the possibility that it can be used to damage the vision of the user if precautions aren't taken. I'm wondering what the small print for these devices will be.
LORAN (Long Range Aids to Navigation) is an electronic navigation system using low-frequency radio, used by many boaters (including me) before GPS. It has an approximately 200m accuracy and is a functional replacement in case GPS fails or the US implements selective availability in time of war.
Wait -- they're talking about decommissioning a redundant technology and relying on one that the military spends millions on and is mission-critical to its functioning (and thus in no danger of suddenly going offline)? Why is this sudden outbreak of common sense being maligned? I wish our government did this more often!
I mean, we wouldn't want to impregnate China, would we?
It's fine, as long as there's only one child from the bastard union.
Now if Google really wants to make a point, with a genuine and serious risk of losing business, how about making google.cn an exclusively SSL site and seeing how fast China blocks it..?
Because Google isn't stupid, maybe? Read their charter. That do no evil thing people bitch about all the time has only one specific tenet that is not vague: following the law. Wherever Google establishes a business presence, it will follow the prevailing law of that jurisdiction. If the country google operates in says "Fork over all private data," they're going to do it. If that country says "Censor this guy into oblivion," google smiles and makes it happen. Because Google is a business, and doing otherwise would compromise its profitability -- and then their executives would get in trouble, possibly even terminated for cause.
Google isn't pulling out because China is big and evil -- they're pulling out because company assets were threatened.
Translation: "We were cool with doing business with you, even effacing our own corporate values, because your country is a lucrative market. But it wasn't enough for us to be cooperative -- you got in our servers and messed with our stuff. And you know what -- that'll cost us more in our reputation and business costs than you're worth, so goodbye."
Basically, they're saying for 5% of the price of a T1 you get 5% the capacity over a month.
Yeah, but if you have a T1, you bet your ass it won't be going on the fritz a half-dozen times a month, and when you call support their first question isn't "Have you updated your antivirus? Tried turning it off and back on again?" The guarantee that your service will be available all the time and if you have any problem you have an immediate resolution is the reason for all that money being spent.
Something else to think about: Dialup (for most) typically averages about 40kbit/s, or about 5KB/s. Let's do some math... 5KB/s -> 300KB/min -> 17.6MB/hr -> 422MB/day -> 12.5GB/month. That more than the vast majority of Comcast says their customers use in a month. So by their own argument, we should be paying less than $20 a month for their service -- which would be competitive with dialup.
So, why aren't we?
If you don't get something, it doesn't mean there is nothing there. Sometimes it takes time, examination, and a willingness to have an open mind.
A willingness to have an open mind doesn't mean I have to abandon my sense of aesthetics or personal tastes. Maybe these neural networks can mimick Pollock's work convincingly. We already have computer programs that can synthesize music passably-well. Just because I sarcastically dismiss his work doesn't mean I don't understand it; There was this guy who decided to serve in the military. He got sick, and was discharged because his girlfriend called his commanding officer. He then married her, banged a few times and popped out a couple kids and lived in a friend's basement. Unfortunately, the kids killed her, quite literally. He was so broken up about it that when his friend died, he moved out of the basement by marrying his newly single wife and raised their six kids together. Oh, I forgot to add -- his name was Monet and he also painted once in awhile. -_-
Two words: Jackson Pollock.
Also known as "the guy who vomits paint on extra large canvases while drunk and stoned." Glad to see neural nets getting high... they'll make an excellent contribution to modern american art (which imho is an oxymoron).
...substituting the more dangerous heavy metal cadmium
Everybody knows a proper Rudolph is made from tritium, not cadmium. Damn imitation radioactive children's toys... buy american: We use 100% Tritium in our glow in the dark toys!
... has reported both the brilliant and ridiculous ideas of its times, depending on the writer, scientist or editor.
For a minute, I thought they were talking about slashdot!
I'll believe it when I see Tom's Hardware or someone equally competent
That's a bit of an insult to competency.
thanks to intelligent, second-by-second, switching between the two GPUs and automatic on-the-fly re-clocking of the Intel Core i7 CPU. All this also comes in with a price tag of just over $1,000.
So what they're saying is... as long as you don't use the laptop for anything more sophisticated than notepad, you'll get 12 hours. How about watching DVDs? How long will it last then? -_-
Yeah yeah yeah. You're a female. We get it. It's in your id, and you are constantly mentioning it. What do you want, a frickin' medal for having a vag or something? What an attention whore.
Well pardon me for taking pride in my gender. No, I don't want a medal, I just want the same respect you'd give any man on this forum. If I was techiedude96, it'd be a moot point -- But you get +5 insightful and I get a bunch of overrated mods because apparently there's a girl in the clubhouse (le gasp).
I'm a dyke... do you really think a few mods on some backwater geek website is going to deter me from continuing to call you people out for your sexist bullshit?
I suddenly feel a little bit smug having only spent $25 on my vibrator, and the occasional pocket change on lotion and AA batteries. Why anyone would spend hundreds of dollars on a sex toy is beyond me. It feels good to be a girl right now. ^___^
What's three times nothing?
About 4.5 billion dollars -- but only if you are the RIAA.
The question is no more phrased improperly than the expectation of privacy on Facebook which flies in the face of the explicit terms of service. This is a problem of education, nothing more.
That's shifting responsibility. It makes more sense to change the legislation and spend a small amount on enforcement and compliance actions against corporations and groups that routinely handle large amounts of personal data. Education is expensive, large fines and public trials are a lot cheaper.